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  • Sportsforever
    NL MVP
    • Mar 2005
    • 20368
    #226
    Re: 5/7 - 5/20 Game Discussion Thread

    Bautista is heating up...2 homers in the last 3 days. That one seemed like a Wrigley Field homer though...
    "People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." - Rogers Hornsby

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      • Sportsforever
        NL MVP
        • Mar 2005
        • 20368
        #227
        Re: 5/7 - 5/20 Game Discussion Thread

        Albies just rakes vs LHP...almost wish he'd just hit RH the way he hits.
        "People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." - Rogers Hornsby

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          • Majingir
            Moderator
            • Apr 2005
            • 47648
            #228
            Re: 5/7 - 5/20 Game Discussion Thread

            Originally posted by Sportsforever
            Bautista is heating up...2 homers in the last 3 days. That one seemed like a Wrigley Field homer though...
            That's usually what he does.


            He could hit 0HRs one week, and the following week hit 3-4. Then go another week without a HR, and get 2-3 the following week.

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              • KSUowls
                All Star
                • Jul 2009
                • 5893
                #229
                Re: 5/7 - 5/20 Game Discussion Thread

                Originally posted by Sportsforever
                The kid is 20...he's going to have growing pains. I had said before the season started that if he came up and played the season at this level, a .250/20/60 with 150 K's type of season was realistic. A lot of his strikeouts are coming looking, which is him just having to adjust to the strike zone. You aren't seeing him swing and miss at a ton of 3rd strikes.
                Yeah he's 20, like I said not remotely time to worry...

                I think your .250/20/60 season would be a major disappointment though and only realistic if we accept that he was called up too soon/not the player we hope he is. Sure, most 20 year olds aren't Mike Trout and hit .330 . Most 19 year old's also don't go out and crush AAA pitching like he did though. A realistic expecation imo would be something like Heyward. .270-.280, ~20 HR, and a high OBP. Less than that is a disappointment, and more than that is just bonus.

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                  • Sportsforever
                    NL MVP
                    • Mar 2005
                    • 20368
                    #230
                    Re: 5/7 - 5/20 Game Discussion Thread

                    Originally posted by KSUowls
                    Yeah he's 20, like I said not remotely time to worry...

                    I think your .250/20/60 season would be a major disappointment though and only realistic if we accept that he was called up too soon/not the player we hope he is. Sure, most 20 year olds aren't Mike Trout and hit .330 . Most 19 year old's also don't go out and crush AAA pitching like he did though. A realistic expecation imo would be something like Heyward. .270-.280, ~20 HR, and a high OBP. Less than that is a disappointment, and more than that is just bonus.
                    Maybe...but he struck out a LOT in the minors (at roughly twice the rate Trout did in the minors), so I expect him to K a lot in the bigs. Also, let's not forget that Mike Trout posted a 220/281/390 triple slash with 30 K's/9 BB in his first 40 games. It takes a while to adjust to major league pitching...

                    As for the Heyward comparison, I would be fine if he has a rookie year that doesn't measure up to Heyward's if he actually progresses from that point. Heyward had a historic rookie year and has really had a disappointing career to this point.
                    "People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." - Rogers Hornsby

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                      • Sportsforever
                        NL MVP
                        • Mar 2005
                        • 20368
                        #231
                        Re: 5/7 - 5/20 Game Discussion Thread

                        Have we left enough men on base today? Good grief...1-14 with RISP.
                        "People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." - Rogers Hornsby

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                          • bcruise
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Mar 2004
                            • 23274
                            #232
                            Re: 5/7 - 5/20 Game Discussion Thread

                            Originally posted by Sportsforever
                            Have we left enough men on base today? Good grief...1-14 with RISP.
                            Only reason this is still a game.

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                              • KSUowls
                                All Star
                                • Jul 2009
                                • 5893
                                #233
                                Re: 5/7 - 5/20 Game Discussion Thread

                                Originally posted by Sportsforever
                                Maybe...but he struck out a LOT in the minors (at roughly twice the rate Trout did in the minors), so I expect him to K a lot in the bigs. Also, let's not forget that Mike Trout posted a 220/281/390 triple slash with 30 K's/9 BB in his first 40 games. It takes a while to adjust to major league pitching...

                                As for the Heyward comparison, I would be fine if he has a rookie year that doesn't measure up to Heyward's if he actually progresses from that point. Heyward had a historic rookie year and has really had a disappointing career to this point.
                                I mean yeah I'd definitely rather a bad year this year and then him continue to develop instead of J-Hey who peaked at 20. I don't see those as mutually exclusive options though.

                                Heyward had a very good (not close to an all-time great) rookie season, and I think it's fair to expect something like that again from another #1 prospect. Basically a stat line that looks impressive in the context of their age/experience, and alone without context still a solid MLB player.


                                -As for the game
                                11 LOB through 6 innings. Amazing that Atlanta has still managed 6 runs in this one despite that.

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                                  • Sportsforever
                                    NL MVP
                                    • Mar 2005
                                    • 20368
                                    #234
                                    Re: 5/7 - 5/20 Game Discussion Thread

                                    Originally posted by KSUowls
                                    I mean yeah I'd definitely rather a bad year this year and then him continue to develop instead of J-Hey who peaked at 20. I don't see those as mutually exclusive options though.

                                    Heyward had a very good (not close to an all-time great) rookie season, and I think it's fair to expect something like that again from another #1 prospect. Basically a stat line that looks impressive in the context of their age/experience, and alone without context still a solid MLB player.


                                    -As for the game
                                    11 LOB through 6 innings. Amazing that Atlanta has still managed 6 runs in this one despite that.
                                    I'm not disagreeing with you...I'd love to see him take off and carry the offense; I'm just tempering my expectations of him...I should state that I am saying that projection in the LOW end of what we can expect from him, not what I think he'll do.
                                    "People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." - Rogers Hornsby

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                                      • Sportsforever
                                        NL MVP
                                        • Mar 2005
                                        • 20368
                                        #235
                                        Re: 5/7 - 5/20 Game Discussion Thread

                                        Man...I really wish we had a "lockdown" bullpen. I'd feel a lot better about games when it got to the 7th. Instead I find myself thinking "which bullpen will show up today?"
                                        "People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." - Rogers Hornsby

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                                          • Blzer
                                            Resident film pundit
                                            • Mar 2004
                                            • 42526
                                            #236
                                            Re: 5/7 - 5/20 Game Discussion Thread

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                                              • Sportsforever
                                                NL MVP
                                                • Mar 2005
                                                • 20368
                                                #237
                                                Re: 5/7 - 5/20 Game Discussion Thread

                                                I get it...asking Bautista to do something he hasn't done in 10 years at the end of his career doesn't set him up for success, but off the bat I thought that was a DP ball. Bautista has the range of a fire hydrant.
                                                "People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." - Rogers Hornsby

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                                                  • canes21
                                                    Hall Of Fame
                                                    • Sep 2008
                                                    • 22930
                                                    #238
                                                    Re: 5/7 - 5/20 Game Discussion Thread

                                                    Inciarte has every right to complain about that call. Good lord this ump has been garbage.
                                                    “No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth.”


                                                    ― Plato

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                                                      • Sportsforever
                                                        NL MVP
                                                        • Mar 2005
                                                        • 20368
                                                        #239
                                                        Re: 5/7 - 5/20 Game Discussion Thread

                                                        Originally posted by canes21
                                                        Inciarte has every right to complain about that call. Good lord this ump has been garbage.
                                                        He's been very inconsistent, but it's been both ways...he's just had a rough day.
                                                        "People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." - Rogers Hornsby

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                                                          • bcruise
                                                            Hall Of Fame
                                                            • Mar 2004
                                                            • 23274
                                                            #240
                                                            Re: 5/7 - 5/20 Game Discussion Thread

                                                            Cubs escape the Justin Wilson Experience with no damage. Heart of the order coming up in the bottom of the 8th.

                                                            Aaaaand nothing.
                                                            Last edited by bcruise; 05-14-2018, 04:18 PM.

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