Why are steroids so bad?

[glucklich]

Re: Why are steroids so bad?

But never ONCE is it "enhancing"...

See post 66.

[MSRoble33]

Re: Why are steroids so bad?

See post 66.

VERY weak argument... and a narrow-minded way to view meds such as cortizone.

[MSRoble33]

Re: Why are steroids so bad?

See post 66.

VERY weak argument... and a narrow-minded way to view meds such as cortizone.

[glucklich]

Re: Why are steroids so bad?

VERY weak argument... and a narrow-minded way to view meds such as cortizone.

So you say.

[glucklich]

Re: Why are steroids so bad?

VERY weak argument... and a narrow-minded way to view meds such as cortizone.

So you say.

[MSRoble33]

Re: Why are steroids so bad?

Have you even PLAYED sports in an organized level?

[MSRoble33]

Re: Why are steroids so bad?

Have you even PLAYED sports in an organized level?

[jujuhound]

Re: Why are steroids so bad?

Point 4 is not entirely accurate and to some degree point two. I dont think harm is irrelevant. My thing is that if you oppose steroids then it makes sense that you would also oppose cortisone since it has bad long term effects.

Point 4 was completely a joke.

The difference between cortisone and steroids is that cortisone can be beneficial if used sparingly as it is intended as a legitimate medical treatment. Steroids, when used in the context of athletics, are inherently meant to be abused. You don't take 2 or 3 steroids shots over your lifetime if you want to see any effect. You do cycles of constant steroid use which have terrible effects.

On the other hand, my late grandfather had such chronic problems with his hip that he was given a cortisone shot to ease the pain and remove some of the calcium deposits (or whatever was in there). He did not suffer the degenerative effects of cortisone that you are talking about b/c he didn't shoot cortisone into his hip every day. The people that shot Butkus up every day were abusing cortisone. I don't know that there is any way to use steroids without abusing them.

By the way, I'm not sure of this, but I don't think they knew the negative effects of using cortisone too often back when Butkus played.

[jujuhound]

Re: Why are steroids so bad?

Point 4 is not entirely accurate and to some degree point two. I dont think harm is irrelevant. My thing is that if you oppose steroids then it makes sense that you would also oppose cortisone since it has bad long term effects.

Point 4 was completely a joke.

The difference between cortisone and steroids is that cortisone can be beneficial if used sparingly as it is intended as a legitimate medical treatment. Steroids, when used in the context of athletics, are inherently meant to be abused. You don't take 2 or 3 steroids shots over your lifetime if you want to see any effect. You do cycles of constant steroid use which have terrible effects.

On the other hand, my late grandfather had such chronic problems with his hip that he was given a cortisone shot to ease the pain and remove some of the calcium deposits (or whatever was in there). He did not suffer the degenerative effects of cortisone that you are talking about b/c he didn't shoot cortisone into his hip every day. The people that shot Butkus up every day were abusing cortisone. I don't know that there is any way to use steroids without abusing them.

By the way, I'm not sure of this, but I don't think they knew the negative effects of using cortisone too often back when Butkus played.

[glucklich]

Re: Why are steroids so bad?

Have you even PLAYED sports in an organized level?

Yes, I have. And Ive also had injuries which required me to have morphine injections.

[glucklich]

Re: Why are steroids so bad?

Have you even PLAYED sports in an organized level?

Yes, I have. And Ive also had injuries which required me to have morphine injections.

[glucklich]

Re: Why are steroids so bad?

Point 4 was completely a joke.

The difference between cortisone and steroids is that cortisone can be beneficial if used sparingly as it is intended as a legitimate medical treatment. Steroids, when used in the context of athletics, are inherently meant to be abused. You don't take 2 or 3 steroids shots over your lifetime if you want to see any effect. You do cycles of constant steroid use which have terrible effects.

On the other hand, my late grandfather had such chronic problems with his hip that he was given a cortisone shot to ease the pain and remove some of the calcium deposits (or whatever was in there). He did not suffer the degenerative effects of cortisone that you are talking about b/c he didn't shoot cortisone into his hip every day. The people that shot Butkus up every day were abusing cortisone. I don't know that there is any way to use steroids without abusing them.

By the way, I'm not sure of this, but I don't think they knew the negative effects of using cortisone too often back when Butkus played.

Its a little different when you are a professional athlete and money enters the equation. Sometimes they take them for sustained periods of time because of the pressures to play.

Steroids have medicinal purposes do they not? I think they are used for ailing backs a lot.

[glucklich]

Re: Why are steroids so bad?

Point 4 was completely a joke.

The difference between cortisone and steroids is that cortisone can be beneficial if used sparingly as it is intended as a legitimate medical treatment. Steroids, when used in the context of athletics, are inherently meant to be abused. You don't take 2 or 3 steroids shots over your lifetime if you want to see any effect. You do cycles of constant steroid use which have terrible effects.

On the other hand, my late grandfather had such chronic problems with his hip that he was given a cortisone shot to ease the pain and remove some of the calcium deposits (or whatever was in there). He did not suffer the degenerative effects of cortisone that you are talking about b/c he didn't shoot cortisone into his hip every day. The people that shot Butkus up every day were abusing cortisone. I don't know that there is any way to use steroids without abusing them.

By the way, I'm not sure of this, but I don't think they knew the negative effects of using cortisone too often back when Butkus played.

Its a little different when you are a professional athlete and money enters the equation. Sometimes they take them for sustained periods of time because of the pressures to play.

Steroids have medicinal purposes do they not? I think they are used for ailing backs a lot.

[jujuhound]

Re: Why are steroids so bad?

Steroids have medicinal purposes do they not? I think they are used for ailing backs a lot.

Yes, they do. I believe they are a different kind though. I think there are quite a few different kinds of steroids and we are talking about a different kind than what these athletes are injecting into themselves. We need a doctor or someone with medical knowledge. I know I had to take an inhaled steroid for a time that helped with asthma.

[jujuhound]

Re: Why are steroids so bad?

Steroids have medicinal purposes do they not? I think they are used for ailing backs a lot.

Yes, they do. I believe they are a different kind though. I think there are quite a few different kinds of steroids and we are talking about a different kind than what these athletes are injecting into themselves. We need a doctor or someone with medical knowledge. I know I had to take an inhaled steroid for a time that helped with asthma.