Why are steroids so bad?

[sput]

Re: Why are steroids so bad?

very, very well put. for some reason or another my girlfriend and i got into a discussion about this while driving down the highway today, and she said something to the effect of "why don't they just build robots and get it over with?" the comparison of tainted and pure talent is staggering, and no one should forget that's the crux of this argument. there's a difference between watching twenty players hit forty home runs in a year, and then rooting one or two on while chasing sixty. it's the majesty of the game.


-J

[sput]

Re: Why are steroids so bad?

very, very well put. for some reason or another my girlfriend and i got into a discussion about this while driving down the highway today, and she said something to the effect of "why don't they just build robots and get it over with?" the comparison of tainted and pure talent is staggering, and no one should forget that's the crux of this argument. there's a difference between watching twenty players hit forty home runs in a year, and then rooting one or two on while chasing sixty. it's the majesty of the game.


-J

[sput]

Re: Why are steroids so bad?

theoretically that 50% is 100% at that moment, definitely, but at no point, whatsoever, is that athlete doing anything that is definitely beyond their point of talent.


-J

[sput]

Re: Why are steroids so bad?

theoretically that 50% is 100% at that moment, definitely, but at no point, whatsoever, is that athlete doing anything that is definitely beyond their point of talent.


-J

[glucklich]

Re: Why are steroids so bad?

theoretically that 50% is 100% at that moment, definitely, but at no point, whatsoever, is that athlete doing anything that is definitely beyond their point of talent.


-J

Wrong, if at that moment cortizone transforms him from 50% to 75%, he is exceeding his talent at that moment.

[glucklich]

Re: Why are steroids so bad?

theoretically that 50% is 100% at that moment, definitely, but at no point, whatsoever, is that athlete doing anything that is definitely beyond their point of talent.


-J

Wrong, if at that moment cortizone transforms him from 50% to 75%, he is exceeding his talent at that moment.

[ndeezlo]

Re: Why are steroids so bad?

Lyle Alzado

[ndeezlo]

Re: Why are steroids so bad?

Lyle Alzado

[glucklich]

Re: Why are steroids so bad?

Lyle Alzado

Hey, the long term effects are no joke. People like him are the best deterrent.

[glucklich]

Re: Why are steroids so bad?

Lyle Alzado

Hey, the long term effects are no joke. People like him are the best deterrent.

[sput]

Re: Why are steroids so bad?

this damn argument can be taken to the nth degree: players shouldn't be allowed to have surgeries to correct their broken bones, that affects their natural performance. whatever. the point is, steroids are performance enhancers, cortizone is a pain dampener. aspirin can be used as a pain dampener. tylenol, etc etc. the bare bones of the argument is that steroids serve to push people past their natural limits and are illegal.


-J

[sput]

Re: Why are steroids so bad?

this damn argument can be taken to the nth degree: players shouldn't be allowed to have surgeries to correct their broken bones, that affects their natural performance. whatever. the point is, steroids are performance enhancers, cortizone is a pain dampener. aspirin can be used as a pain dampener. tylenol, etc etc. the bare bones of the argument is that steroids serve to push people past their natural limits and are illegal.


-J

[glucklich]

Re: Why are steroids so bad?

this damn argument can be taken to the nth degree: players shouldn't be allowed to have surgeries to correct their broken bones, that affects their natural performance. whatever. the point is, steroids are performance enhancers, cortizone is a pain dampener. aspirin can be used as a pain dampener. tylenol, etc etc. the bare bones of the argument is that steroids serve to push people past their natural limits and are illegal.
-J

See this was mentioned before. The issue between steroids isnt really that one is a "pain dampener" like tylenol and the other is not. Cortizone is not like Tylenol. It erodes your cartilage. As I mentioned before Butkus sued the Bears for lying or not disclosing this effect of cortizone. Both enhance performence and both have long term effects-- not like tylenol. If you are objecting because steroids are A) unhealthy long term and B) performence enhancing, good luck reconciling that with what cortizone is.

[glucklich]

Re: Why are steroids so bad?

this damn argument can be taken to the nth degree: players shouldn't be allowed to have surgeries to correct their broken bones, that affects their natural performance. whatever. the point is, steroids are performance enhancers, cortizone is a pain dampener. aspirin can be used as a pain dampener. tylenol, etc etc. the bare bones of the argument is that steroids serve to push people past their natural limits and are illegal.
-J

See this was mentioned before. The issue between steroids isnt really that one is a "pain dampener" like tylenol and the other is not. Cortizone is not like Tylenol. It erodes your cartilage. As I mentioned before Butkus sued the Bears for lying or not disclosing this effect of cortizone. Both enhance performence and both have long term effects-- not like tylenol. If you are objecting because steroids are A) unhealthy long term and B) performence enhancing, good luck reconciling that with what cortizone is.

[Misfit]

Re: Why are steroids so bad?

Well considering the enforcement the vast majority of the time has been minimal, maybe you should write your congressman, especially since you are reliant on others to raise your kid.

The 50% you speak of is 100% at that point in time...sometimes 100% today is 50% of yesterday...and thats the point you cant navigate around.

Why don't you address the issue instead of skipping across stones? I don't need society to raise my kid, and I never said I did. I said I did not want him or her growing up in a world where steroid usage was encouraged. That is all. Just like I wouldn't want to live in a world where most people taught their kids cannibalism was the way to eat. And I'm not the one who has a problem with how steroid use is handled by the government. I'm confident I can raise a kid who has enough sense not to take them, but that's just me.

And the point I can't navigate isn't a point at all. An athlete taking cortizone injections to block pain isn't on the same level of health as the one who isn't. Gary Sheffield took a few cortizone injections last year and he couldn't even lift his right arm above his head to catch fly balls. You think he wants to be in that position? No one is gaining a competetive advantage of taking a cortizone injection and no one takes regularly enough (or is encouraged to take it regularly) for it to have serious health implications like the ones associated with steroid use.