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  • Jeffrey Smith
    MVP
    • Apr 2014
    • 1925

    #226
    Re: 9/27 - 10/3 Game Discussion Thread

    What baseball needs is 16 teams in each league ( 4x4 team divisions).

    Only division winners make the playoffs.

    Problem solved.


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    • TripleCrown9
      Keep the Faith
      • May 2010
      • 23714

      #227
      Re: 9/27 - 10/3 Game Discussion Thread

      Nah, it's actually fine the way it is.

      Even if we went back to the single wild card team, there'd be riots and complaining about a second team being qualified and not making it.

      That's just the way the world works now.
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      • countryboy
        Growing pains
        • Sep 2003
        • 52830

        #228
        Re: 9/27 - 10/3 Game Discussion Thread

        Originally posted by Jeffrey Smith
        What baseball needs is 16 teams in each league ( 4x4 team divisions).

        Only division winners make the playoffs.

        Problem solved.


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        • reyes the roof
          Hall Of Fame
          • Mar 2009
          • 11526

          #229
          Re: 9/27 - 10/3 Game Discussion Thread

          I don’t think 8 divisions is the answer. You eliminate the chance of there ever being a playoff series between rivals like Boston and The Yankees, which is bad for baseball IMO

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          • Mentch
            Rookie
            • Jan 2020
            • 300

            #230
            Re: 9/27 - 10/3 Game Discussion Thread

            Originally posted by TripleCrown9
            Again, if the Dodgers took care of what they had to...

            Six of San Francisco's wins against LA were by fewer than 3 runs, including 3-2 in early September, 2-1 at the end of July, and 5-4 in May.

            I personally won't feel any sympathy for a defending champion winning 106 games. If they've won that many, they should be able to win one more, a home game at that. Then the "real" playoffs can begin.


            If we did the best of three, there would still be complaining in this thread from the same voices about how St. Louis didn't deserve to be there, about how the two wins were flukes, etc. Then those voices will demand best of 5, then they'll say that's too long and they should go back to one game.

            Baseball survives as the fans complain. Circle of life. Not bad for a sport that's been dying since 1905.

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            Yet here you are, sitting here arguing in front of everyone that those few runs should be the difference between security as a #1 seed and being forced to play a game of chance and have an entire 106 win season wasted and immediately forgotten

            A 162 game season should not be determined by a single matchup based on who’s chosen to pitch. Baseball playoffs have always been based on exclusivity. Do we want the best possible matchups, or do we want to draw in casual fans with short attention spans based on novelties?

            No, absolutely nobody would be complaining that the Cardinals “did not deserve” to be there. They won 17 straight games at the most important part of the season, of course they deserved it. If they could win 2 games ON THE ROAD, then nobody would say “the two wins were a fluke”. If you weren’t blinded by your obvious bias maybe you could see that
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            • Master Live 013
              Hall Of Fame
              • Oct 2013
              • 12430

              #231
              Re: 9/27 - 10/3 Game Discussion Thread

              I agree that your season coming down to a 1 Wild Card game is nonsense yet I don't see another format where at least 8 teams make it to the playoffs and it makes winning the division so important. Teams are rightfully scared to death of being in the WC game because the possibility of your season ending that way is too abrupt







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              • TripleCrown9
                Keep the Faith
                • May 2010
                • 23714

                #232
                Re: 9/27 - 10/3 Game Discussion Thread

                Originally posted by Mentch
                Yet here you are, sitting here arguing in front of everyone that those few runs should be the difference between security as a #1 seed and being forced to play a game of chance and have an entire 106 win season wasted and immediately forgotten

                A 162 game season should not be determined by a single matchup based on who’s chosen to pitch. Baseball playoffs have always been based on exclusivity. Do we want the best possible matchups, or do we want to draw in casual fans with short attention spans based on novelties?

                No, absolutely nobody would be complaining that the Cardinals “did not deserve” to be there. They won 17 straight games at the most important part of the season, of course they deserved it. If they could win 2 games ON THE ROAD, then nobody would say “the two wins were a fluke”. If you weren’t blinded by your obvious bias maybe you could see that
                The obvious bias of my team being in the EXACT same position as the Dodgers?
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                • reyes the roof
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 11526

                  #233
                  Re: 9/27 - 10/3 Game Discussion Thread

                  Originally posted by Master Live 013
                  I agree that your season coming down to a 1 Wild Card game is nonsense yet I don't see another format where at least 8 teams make it to the playoffs and it makes winning the division so important. Teams are rightfully scared to death of being in the WC game because the possibility of your season ending that way is too abrupt






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                  I’d use the old format with one wildcard team, but it’s a 2-1-2 series and the wildcard team only gets one home game

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                  • countryboy
                    Growing pains
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 52830

                    #234
                    Re: 9/27 - 10/3 Game Discussion Thread

                    In a sport where the regular season is 162 games long, and teams in the same division play an overwhelmingly vast majority of those 162 games against like opponents, its hard to feel injustice for a team who doesn't win their division, that has to play in a one game winner take all wild card game.

                    You had 162 games to be better than the other 4 teams in your division. If you're not, then here's your last chance to show you belong.

                    And extending the wildcard to 3 game series isn't the answer either, whether you shorten the season or not. Asking the best team in the league to be idle for nearly a week, if not a week or a day/two more, in a sport where timing and rhythm are everything seems quite unfair to the best team in the league, not to mention the other two divisional winners.

                    The format is fine. Win your division. If not, then you best not squander your second chance after you had 162 games to win your division.
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                    • TheMatrix31
                      RF
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 52929

                      #235
                      Re: 9/27 - 10/3 Game Discussion Thread

                      Originally posted by countryboy
                      Could be worse.

                      They could've missed the playoffs like in '42 (104 wins) and '62 (102 wins) when they won 100 games but finished second in their division so they missed the playoffs entirely.

                      I don't feel bad for anyone who plays the wildcard game.

                      You don't want to play in a one game elimination game, win your division. Its really that simple.
                      Why don't you tell the Cardinals to win their division if they want to make the playoffs?

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                      • TheMatrix31
                        RF
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 52929

                        #236
                        Re: 9/27 - 10/3 Game Discussion Thread

                        Originally posted by Mentch
                        Don’t agree with this take at all. The Dodgers would have won any other division in baseball in any other year in baseball. Are you saying they should be punished with a coin flip wild card game and made to sweat because they didnt beat out a 107 win team?

                        You have to have the best of 3 when it comes to the wild card. One game play ins only make sense for tiebreaker games because you’re still fighting to get INTO the playoffs. In the case of the wild card, you’re already in the playoffs, why would you reduce a 162 game season to 1 game? Remember, baseball playoffs has always been about exclusivity, not novelties like 1 game Wild Cards
                        Gotta have that fake drama even if it's completely illegitimate.

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                        • countryboy
                          Growing pains
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 52830

                          #237
                          9/27 - 10/3 Game Discussion Thread

                          Originally posted by TheMatrix31
                          Why don't you tell the Cardinals to win their division if they want to make the playoffs?

                          Lol

                          I have no idea what this means or how it’s a valid response to what I said that moves the conversation forward.

                          But sure buddy I’ll tell em


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                          • KSUowls
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                            • Jul 2009
                            • 5894

                            #238
                            Re: 9/27 - 10/3 Game Discussion Thread

                            On the flip side, you had 162 games to prove that you're the best non-division winner.

                            In a regular season that features 162 games, in a sport where at least 11% of your starting lineup changes each night; it's pretty silly to then give multiple teams who didn't win their division a shot at the playoffs, and it's even more silly to then compress it all to a 1 game format unlike any other aspect of the sport seen during the 7 months of the year that they play the game.

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                            • phenom1990
                              MVP
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 4789

                              #239
                              Re: 9/27 - 10/3 Game Discussion Thread

                              Doctor, Shoot that 1 game Wildcard Fake Drama into my veins please!!
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                              • Master Live 013
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Oct 2013
                                • 12430

                                #240
                                Re: 9/27 - 10/3 Game Discussion Thread

                                I don't think home field advantage scares anyone, it doesn't come close to the WC game. Maybe if you said the WC team doesn't get any games at home during the NLDS, and I still don't think that comes close plus people wouldn't like the concept of a team not getting any games at home for a whole series.

                                Plus, if you have to come up with ever so much convoluted ways to hobble a WC team then you might as well leave them out of the playoffs completely and be done with it.
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