2021-2022 Hot Stove Thread

[TripleCrown9]

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Somewhat surprisingly, J.D. Martinez opted IN to the final year of his contract, and will be with the Sox in 2022.

[countryboy]

2021-2022 Hot Stove Thread

Dodgers don’t issue QO to Kershaw


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[ninertravel]

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Andrew Hearny to the dodgers lol this guy sucked in LA and sucked even worse with the yankees. I don't even think he will make the dodgers 40 man next year

[reyes the roof]

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Michael Conforto declined his qualifying offer and is officially a free agent

[Majingir]

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Marlins could be looking to deal one of their SP.

I'd love Jays getting Alcantara. That would easily put them in the top 5 or so rotations in baseball without even re-signing Cy Young candidate Robbie Ray.

[ninertravel]

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Marlins could be looking to deal one of their SP.

I'd love Jays getting Alcantara. That would easily put them in the top 5 or so rotations in baseball without even re-signing Cy Young candidate Robbie Ray.

I think the Jays will win the East next year. Red sox never have 2 good years in a row. Yankees will be the same old home run or nothing team that will be hot and cold at times. and Rays well... I don't know about them they keep proving us wrong but I really think the jays are the most balanced team next year for the East.

[Majingir]

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I think the Jays will win the East next year. Red sox never have 2 good years in a row. Yankees will be the same old home run or nothing team that will be hot and cold at times. and Rays well... I don't know about them they keep proving us wrong but I really think the jays are the most balanced team next year for the East.

It's a weird season for sure to predict.

Even if they keep Semien and Ray, nobody would expect either to put up anywhere close to the numbers they did last year. Even Vladdy, I wouldn't bet on a repeat season like that one.

But despite all that, they should still be great. Pitching cost them many games last year. If they could go into the season with a top rotation, who knows how far they could go. You almost forget their biggest hope for 2021 was Nate Pearson being the #2SP that their weak rotation needs. Now, a guy like Manoah could be their 3 or 4 guy in that rotation!

[Jr.]

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The Cubs have a lot of available money and even more roster holes. I'm very interested to see what they do in FA. They need pitching desperately as there aren't any MLB starting arms on the farm and idk if Kyle Hendricks is truly a #1 after his stinker 2021 season.

They also need some hitters that can make any kind of consistent contact.

[LowerWolf]

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I expect Freeman to be back. But if the Padres are able to dump Hosmer, Freeman could go play with his son's favorite player.

[Majingir]

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I feel like this will have strong feelings about it.

MLB proposed to get rid of arbitration.

In its place? Salary for players who fall under that category would revolve around a set number which revolved around their WAR.

[Master Live 013]

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Overall, the proposal is similar to the one the league made in August, people with knowledge of the discussions said. Like August’s proposal, Wednesday’s would grant players free agency at the age of 29 1/2 and do away with arbitration. The most significant change between the two versions is how player salaries would be determined prior to free agency.

In the August proposal, MLB offered to use a predetermined sum of money that would be distributed to eligible players, those who had reached at least three years of service time. This time, MLB is offering to pay players based on performance, specifically on a calculation of wins above replacement, or WAR. There are multiple variants of WAR, but MLB proposed to rely on FanGraphs’ version, or fWAR. A player’s career WAR would be part of the calculation, weighted for recency. Whether a player has been in the majors for three-plus, four-plus, or five-plus years would affect the calculation.
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“Albert Pujols has a better chance of leading the majors in stolen bases,” the agent said. “The central theme of professional sports from the labor side is the ability to negotiate your salary and make a case for what you’re worth. In arbitration, a panel decides. In free agency, the market decides. In this case an algorithm which is obviously flawed would decide. Plus, it would open up the floodgates for WAR manipulation on behalf of the clubs. Also, since when do we let websites have such a direct influence on player salary?”
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MLB sees its proposal as, in part, a way to do away with the acrimony of the arbitration process — which can be uncomfortable for clubs and players alike — and as a way for younger players to be paid more, one of the union’s stated goals. However, the overall trade-off for players under the league’s proposal likely would be steep: Typically, the sport’s best players reach free agency prior to age 29 1/2, because they often arrive in the majors at a young age.

Agreeing to a system that keeps the best players under team control, and at a set scale of pay, for potentially a longer period of time than six years — the current time it takes to get free agency — could lessen those players’ earnings in the long run. And, if the top-earning players in the sport don’t have a way to grow their salaries, then other players’ salaries also might not grow over time.
.................................................. .................................................. .......................The union has made two full economics proposals, and has taken a different approach for getting players paid younger than the league is taking. Both union proposals have included a means of getting players to arbitration at two years, rather than three years; performance bonuses for players prior to arbitration; and a mechanism to get some players to free agency after five years, if they reach a certain age, among other things.


One additional factor the sides likely would have to contend with: eliminating salary arbitration might be a difficult sell for player agents. Guidance of the process is one of the services they offer, and are paid for.

https://theathletic.com/2950283/2021/11/11/before-free-agency-mlb-proposes-paying-players-based-on-fangraphs-calculation-of-war/

Insane that MLB would think the MLBPA would substitute (early) free agency/arbitration (both!) for one rule where everyone is a free agent at 29 1/2. Get out of here. Just early posturing, but MLB sure is reeving up the Union

On the other side, the Union's proposal sounds more reasonable, but in exchange of what? You ain't getting something for nothing.

As for the WAR, I'm sure they are head over heels at Fangraph (this proposal ain't happening), bWAR (Basbeall Prospectus) is basically dead and rWAR (Baseball Reference) just took a hit.

[The Kid 24]

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Jeff Passan
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In an unexpected turn, shortstop Corey Seager and infielder Marcus Semien are among the players whose markets have accelerated to the point they could sign before the expected Dec. 1 lockout, sources tell ESPN.

My dispatch from the GM Meetings, at ESPN+: https://es.pn/30savFv


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[Majingir]

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https://twitter.com/JonHeyman/status/1459202960328646664?t=-z648dwHF3iD00Rx71RJ_Q&s=19

Like I said before, Alcantara would be great to get. If the package involves Kirk, I wouldn't mind.

[The Kid 24]

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Marlins have had talks with Casty and Avi Garcia.


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[The Kid 24]

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Brewers acquire Mike Brosseau from Rays.


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