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  • Majingir
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    • Apr 2005
    • 47467

    #526
    Re: 2023-2024 Hot Stove Thread

    I know MLBTR projections aren't any sort of official number, but so far Jays seemed to have agreed outside of arbitration with most of their guys for above what MLBTR projected.

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    • The Kid 24
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      • Jan 2007
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      #527
      Re: 2023-2024 Hot Stove Thread

      Yankees have made offer to Snell.
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      • The Kid 24
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        • Jan 2007
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        #528
        Re: 2023-2024 Hot Stove Thread

        Yankees close to adding Stroman.


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        • reyes the roof
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          • Mar 2009
          • 11525

          #529
          Re: 2023-2024 Hot Stove Thread

          Yankees and Soto avoid arbitration and agree on a $31 million salary for next year. That tops Ohtani last year for the largest one year deal for an arbitration eligible player

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          • Majingir
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            • Apr 2005
            • 47467

            #530
            Re: 2023-2024 Hot Stove Thread

            I hate seeing Stroman to the Yankees, but knew that day would come. Surprised it didn't happen sooner.

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            • Sportsforever
              NL MVP
              • Mar 2005
              • 20368

              #531
              Re: 2023-2024 Hot Stove Thread

              Originally posted by reyes the roof
              Yankees and Soto avoid arbitration and agree on a $31 million salary for next year. That tops Ohtani last year for the largest one year deal for an arbitration eligible player


              I thought they were gonna g to try and give him a long term deal…does he want to be a FA next year?


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              • reyes the roof
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                #532
                Re: 2023-2024 Hot Stove Thread

                Originally posted by Sportsforever
                I thought they were gonna g to try and give him a long term deal…does he want to be a FA next year?


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                I don’t think this rules out the long term deal, they just needed to come to an agreement by tonight to avoid arbitration. If I’m Soto I’d at least test free agency now that he’s so close to it. If nothing else, use the Mets to drive up the price he signs for with the Yankees

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                • bhurst99
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                  • Aug 2003
                  • 9137

                  #533
                  Re: 2023-2024 Hot Stove Thread

                  Originally posted by Majingir
                  I hate seeing Stroman to the Yankees, but knew that day would come. Surprised it didn't happen sooner.
                  Two years for $37M. That's a pretty solid pickup.
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                  • Majingir
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                    • Apr 2005
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                    #534
                    Re: 2023-2024 Hot Stove Thread

                    Jays file at 18.05 and Vlad at 19.9

                    Projection was 20.4. Surprised Vlads number was so "low".

                    I wonder if they can actually come to terms on a bigger deal given less than 2m difference between them.

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                    • DamnYanks2
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                      • Jun 2007
                      • 20794

                      #535
                      Re: 2023-2024 Hot Stove Thread

                      Originally posted by bhurst99
                      Two years for $37M. That's a pretty solid pickup.
                      Yea I'll take it. If they add Snell. That would be a very solid rotation.

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                      • Master Live 013
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                        #536
                        Re: 2023-2024 Hot Stove Thread

                        Stroman...ugh.
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                        • Master Live 013
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                          #537
                          Re: 2023-2024 Hot Stove Thread

                          Soto is a Boras' client, so yeah.
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                          • bhurst99
                            All Star
                            • Aug 2003
                            • 9137

                            #538
                            Re: 2023-2024 Hot Stove Thread

                            Originally posted by Majingir
                            Jays file at 18.05 and Vlad at 19.9

                            Projection was 20.4. Surprised Vlads number was so "low".

                            I wonder if they can actually come to terms on a bigger deal given less than 2m difference between them.
                            It's alarming they haven't come to a long term deal on Vlad. You think this would have happened at some point over the last two years.

                            Sure he had a down year last year but so did the entire offense. You look at what he's done before the age of 25 and it's pretty remarkable. His best years are likely still to come.

                            You would think he would be a cornerstone of the franchise but the lack of a long term deal is very concerning especially when you look at how other franchises lock up their young players for deals that cover some of their initial free agent years.
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                            • Majingir
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                              • Apr 2005
                              • 47467

                              #539
                              Re: 2023-2024 Hot Stove Thread

                              Originally posted by bhurst99
                              It's alarming they haven't come to a long term deal on Vlad. You think this would have happened at some point over the last two years.

                              Sure he had a down year last year but so did the entire offense. You look at what he's done before the age of 25 and it's pretty remarkable. His best years are likely still to come.

                              You would think he would be a cornerstone of the franchise but the lack of a long term deal is very concerning especially when you look at how other franchises lock up their young players for deals that cover some of their initial free agent years.
                              It depends on how each side views it.

                              Vlad might want to get paid like the .300 hitting 1.000 OPS player he was that one year.

                              While Jays might just want to offer him a deal like the .265 hitting .800OPS player the rest of his career has been.

                              I could see Jays more wanting to get a deal done than he does. There's more chance he improves and raises his value/makes an extension seem like a steal than regresses and lowers his value/makes an extension seem like an overpayment. That's good news for the team and not the player in terms of getting a deal done asap.

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                              • Sportsforever
                                NL MVP
                                • Mar 2005
                                • 20368

                                #540
                                Re: 2023-2024 Hot Stove Thread

                                Originally posted by Majingir
                                It depends on how each side views it.

                                Vlad might want to get paid like the .300 hitting 1.000 OPS player he was that one year.

                                While Jays might just want to offer him a deal like the .265 hitting .800OPS player the rest of his career has been.

                                I could see Jays more wanting to get a deal done than he does. There's more chance he improves and raises his value/makes an extension seem like a steal than regresses and lowers his value/makes an extension seem like an overpayment. That's good news for the team and not the player in terms of getting a deal done asap.
                                Ya, I'm not sold on Vlad; he had one monster year (2021), and then you have 2000 PA's of sub 800 OPS performance. Until he shows he can be close to what he was in 2021 on a consistent basis, I'm not giving him the bank.
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