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  • RahKhem
    MVP
    • Mar 2003
    • 1595

    #151
    Re: What is your take on the Congress and MLB?

    Ok, one issue. Gettin better in your later years does not mean you are on steroids. I don't think Unit is on steroids, and Schilling surely isn't on them, yet they have been better in their later years, than in their early years. Moises Alou as well, unless they feel he is on steroids.

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    • RahKhem
      MVP
      • Mar 2003
      • 1595

      #152
      Re: What is your take on the Congress and MLB?

      Again, saying that a skinny second baseman can't hit the ball that far, has he watched Alfonso Soriano? I mean you can't compare baseball players now to the players of the 50s and 60s, and you can't do that in any sport. In the NBA during that time, hardly anybody dunked the ball. Now in the NBA, almost everybody can dunk, the average height is a lot taller, and the players are much faster as well. The same also holds true for the NFL.

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      • RahKhem
        MVP
        • Mar 2003
        • 1595

        #153
        Re: What is your take on the Congress and MLB?

        Again, saying that a skinny second baseman can't hit the ball that far, has he watched Alfonso Soriano? I mean you can't compare baseball players now to the players of the 50s and 60s, and you can't do that in any sport. In the NBA during that time, hardly anybody dunked the ball. Now in the NBA, almost everybody can dunk, the average height is a lot taller, and the players are much faster as well. The same also holds true for the NFL.

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        • SPTO
          binging
          • Feb 2003
          • 68046

          #154
          Re: What is your take on the Congress and MLB?

          Originally posted by RahKhem
          Again, saying that a skinny second baseman can't hit the ball that far, has he watched Alfonso Soriano? I mean you can't compare baseball players now to the players of the 50s and 60s, and you can't do that in any sport. In the NBA during that time, hardly anybody dunked the ball. Now in the NBA, almost everybody can dunk, the average height is a lot taller, and the players are much faster as well. The same also holds true for the NFL.
          Well the example of a 150 lbs 2B isn't that credible but then again so is your example of the NBA not that accurate. I've read oral histories of the game and many players of the 50s and 60s could dunk the ball they just chose not to because they felt it would show up their opponents.

          Congress seems to be very serious about this as one congressman hinted at sweeping legal changes in order to install an IOC like drug organization.
          Member of the Official OS Bills Backers Club

          "Baseball is the most important thing that doesn't matter at all" - Robert B. Parker

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          • SPTO
            binging
            • Feb 2003
            • 68046

            #155
            Re: What is your take on the Congress and MLB?

            Originally posted by RahKhem
            Again, saying that a skinny second baseman can't hit the ball that far, has he watched Alfonso Soriano? I mean you can't compare baseball players now to the players of the 50s and 60s, and you can't do that in any sport. In the NBA during that time, hardly anybody dunked the ball. Now in the NBA, almost everybody can dunk, the average height is a lot taller, and the players are much faster as well. The same also holds true for the NFL.
            Well the example of a 150 lbs 2B isn't that credible but then again so is your example of the NBA not that accurate. I've read oral histories of the game and many players of the 50s and 60s could dunk the ball they just chose not to because they felt it would show up their opponents.

            Congress seems to be very serious about this as one congressman hinted at sweeping legal changes in order to install an IOC like drug organization.
            Member of the Official OS Bills Backers Club

            "Baseball is the most important thing that doesn't matter at all" - Robert B. Parker

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            • mjb2124
              Hall Of Fame
              • Aug 2002
              • 13649

              #156
              Re: What is your take on the Congress and MLB?

              Wow, I didn't know that the team and commissioner had the ability to offer a fine to a player caught using steroids instead of the suspension. I know the other details (which I think are very weak), but I never knew that.

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              • mjb2124
                Hall Of Fame
                • Aug 2002
                • 13649

                #157
                Re: What is your take on the Congress and MLB?

                Wow, I didn't know that the team and commissioner had the ability to offer a fine to a player caught using steroids instead of the suspension. I know the other details (which I think are very weak), but I never knew that.

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                • SPTO
                  binging
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 68046

                  #158
                  Re: What is your take on the Congress and MLB?

                  Well they've gone on break.

                  I have to say that Mr. Bunning was quite the credible witness for the most part. It seems that congress is going to really push for a universal drug testing policy as i've been hearing for the past few days.

                  Also interesting to note that the fine may be in there for the 1st offense so that whoever tests positive won't have their name publicized. It really does seem like MLB is trying to sweep this problem under the rug.
                  Member of the Official OS Bills Backers Club

                  "Baseball is the most important thing that doesn't matter at all" - Robert B. Parker

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                  • SPTO
                    binging
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 68046

                    #159
                    Re: What is your take on the Congress and MLB?

                    Well they've gone on break.

                    I have to say that Mr. Bunning was quite the credible witness for the most part. It seems that congress is going to really push for a universal drug testing policy as i've been hearing for the past few days.

                    Also interesting to note that the fine may be in there for the 1st offense so that whoever tests positive won't have their name publicized. It really does seem like MLB is trying to sweep this problem under the rug.
                    Member of the Official OS Bills Backers Club

                    "Baseball is the most important thing that doesn't matter at all" - Robert B. Parker

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                    • Grandmaster1
                      Banned
                      • Dec 2002
                      • 241

                      #160
                      Re: What is your take on the Congress and MLB?

                      Originally posted by joeboo
                      Wow, I didn't know that the team and commissioner had the ability to offer a fine to a player caught using steroids instead of the suspension. I know the other details (which I think are very weak), but I never knew that.
                      Nobody knew it until a day or two ago.

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                      • Grandmaster1
                        Banned
                        • Dec 2002
                        • 241

                        #161
                        Re: What is your take on the Congress and MLB?

                        Originally posted by joeboo
                        Wow, I didn't know that the team and commissioner had the ability to offer a fine to a player caught using steroids instead of the suspension. I know the other details (which I think are very weak), but I never knew that.
                        Nobody knew it until a day or two ago.

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                        • Neolithic
                          Pro
                          • Apr 2003
                          • 699

                          #162
                          Re: What is your take on the Congress and MLB?

                          here's how to make that fine actually work.

                          Make it comparable to football. 25% of their season and pay is gone. SO....

                          You fail a drug test, you get a 10 day suspension OR a fine of 25% of your pay for that season....

                          Now, your name won't come out with the fine, but.......Do you take 10 days off and public knowledge, but only lose 6% of your total pay, or do you keep it private and lose 25%....hmmmmmmmm

                          granted I would love a poilicy taht sits you for a year with no pay for a first offense, and the second....DONE.....and all statistics wiped.
                          You do what you want in your association, don't let others ruin the fun. Just because other people say it's cheap doesn't mean you have to let it affect your association, just have fun - Evan_OS

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                          • Neolithic
                            Pro
                            • Apr 2003
                            • 699

                            #163
                            Re: What is your take on the Congress and MLB?

                            here's how to make that fine actually work.

                            Make it comparable to football. 25% of their season and pay is gone. SO....

                            You fail a drug test, you get a 10 day suspension OR a fine of 25% of your pay for that season....

                            Now, your name won't come out with the fine, but.......Do you take 10 days off and public knowledge, but only lose 6% of your total pay, or do you keep it private and lose 25%....hmmmmmmmm

                            granted I would love a poilicy taht sits you for a year with no pay for a first offense, and the second....DONE.....and all statistics wiped.
                            You do what you want in your association, don't let others ruin the fun. Just because other people say it's cheap doesn't mean you have to let it affect your association, just have fun - Evan_OS

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                            • SPTO
                              binging
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 68046

                              #164
                              Re: What is your take on the Congress and MLB?

                              I don't know too much about this but would anyone recommend creatine to a 15 yr old?

                              I ask cuz the Anaheim Angels supplied creatine to a guy who eventually took steroids and died. His trainer at USC also assisted him in taking steroids.
                              Member of the Official OS Bills Backers Club

                              "Baseball is the most important thing that doesn't matter at all" - Robert B. Parker

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                              • SPTO
                                binging
                                • Feb 2003
                                • 68046

                                #165
                                Re: What is your take on the Congress and MLB?

                                I don't know too much about this but would anyone recommend creatine to a 15 yr old?

                                I ask cuz the Anaheim Angels supplied creatine to a guy who eventually took steroids and died. His trainer at USC also assisted him in taking steroids.
                                Member of the Official OS Bills Backers Club

                                "Baseball is the most important thing that doesn't matter at all" - Robert B. Parker

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