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  • Pared
    Legen - WAIT FOR IT
    • Feb 2003
    • 39337

    #871
    Re: 2007 New York Mets Discussion

    LoDuca is done, IMO. They are going after another catcher that's better than Castro, and if they can't find one they'll deal with Castro at the position.

    About A-Rod: No way. Never. The guy spurned the Mets previously and then you welcome him once again with open arms? PLEASE. Let the fool go to some 2nd rate market. He can't handle the pressure in NY and I'm sure he wants no part of it. Either way, I don't want him even with his numbers.
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    • Picci
      MVP
      • Feb 2003
      • 4517

      #872
      Re: 2007 New York Mets Discussion

      Originally posted by Pared
      LoDuca is done, IMO. They are going after another catcher that's better than Castro, and if they can't find one they'll deal with Castro at the position.

      About A-Rod: No way. Never. The guy spurned the Mets previously and then you welcome him once again with open arms? PLEASE. Let the fool go to some 2nd rate market. He can't handle the pressure in NY and I'm sure he wants no part of it. Either way, I don't want him even with his numbers.
      He never spurned the Mets. It was Phillips who said 24 + 1 and dropped out. Yet he offered $115M to Hampton who thank god said no and went to Colorado instead.

      Can't handle NY? Two MVP awards in 4 years? And yet you want Green instead?

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      • Pared
        Legen - WAIT FOR IT
        • Feb 2003
        • 39337

        #873
        Re: 2007 New York Mets Discussion

        Again, Green deserves to be signed and I've given reasons why. The guy deserves it.

        All the MVP awards don't mean jack if you can't get it done in the post-season. And Phillips states that he didn't believe 25% of your payroll should be devoted to one player. Are you saying the Mets don't need starting pitching and Bullpen help? You're already limiting our available payroll by adding someone that has caused rifts in the clubhouse crosstown?

        Spend that money on pitching and upgrade 2/3 other positions. Screw A-Rod.

        Btw, what Green and A-Rod have to do with one another... you got me.
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        • Picci
          MVP
          • Feb 2003
          • 4517

          #874
          Re: 2007 New York Mets Discussion

          Originally posted by Pared
          Again, Green deserves to be signed and I've given reasons why. The guy deserves it.

          All the MVP awards don't mean jack if you can't get it done in the post-season. And Phillips states that he didn't believe 25% of your payroll should be devoted to one player. Are you saying the Mets don't need starting pitching and Bullpen help? You're already limiting our available payroll by adding someone that has caused rifts in the clubhouse crosstown?

          Spend that money on pitching and upgrade 2/3 other positions. Screw A-Rod.

          Btw, what Green and A-Rod have to do with one another... you got me.
          You can't be blaming ARod for the playoff defeats. And if we're talking post-season, first priority is to get there.

          Not saying we don't need pitching. I believe in pitching. But what's out there? Livan Hernandez? Freddy Garcia with a bum shoulder? Lets then take a look at possible trade partners. Jon Garland? Johan Santana? What will be the asking price? Pitching is at a premium now. And I'm not to sure that teams are willing to give them up to the Mets with other teams probably better equipped with higher tier prospects. Teams would literally hold us up for ransom. I would rather keep our blue chips instead. I did mention Ervin Santana earlier. Maybe we can get something done there.

          What rifts in the clubhouse? Guy is one of the hardest workers on the field. Plays everyday. Earns MVPs. Did you see the Mets clubhouse this past year? It was pathetic. What was the saying? "We didn't see the urgency"?

          I don't care who Arod dates in Toronto, or yells at ballplayers during fly outs. I care about production. We need an offense to protect our pitching staff until it can regenerate with new young arms.

          25% of payroll? How many games do baseball players play? What are the greatest sports stars pulling in Basketball? Soccer? Even Football. Peyton Manning made $19M and he didn't win until this past February.

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          • Picci
            MVP
            • Feb 2003
            • 4517

            #875
            Re: 2007 New York Mets Discussion

            Originally posted by Pared
            Btw, what Green and A-Rod have to do with one another... you got me.

            Green was paid $5M this past year. Arizona paid the extra $4.5. That's $9.5M. If you equate his salary to his past production against what ARod did and his numbers it more than quadroples what Green did on the baseball field. So, what does one have to do with the other? Numbers.

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            • Pared
              Legen - WAIT FOR IT
              • Feb 2003
              • 39337

              #876
              Re: 2007 New York Mets Discussion

              Originally posted by Picci
              What rifts in the clubhouse?
              Discussing this with you is pointless if you have no idea of the rifts A-Rod has been apart of with Jeter.
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              • Picci
                MVP
                • Feb 2003
                • 4517

                #877
                Re: 2007 New York Mets Discussion

                Originally posted by Pared
                Discussing this with you is pointless if you have no idea of the rifts A-Rod has been apart of with Jeter.
                Like any real Met fan gives a crap about Jeter.

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                • Pared
                  Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 39337

                  #878
                  Re: 2007 New York Mets Discussion

                  ...and others.

                  Any real baseball fan knows about them and why A-Rod isn't coveted by everyone in the MLB.
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                  • nyisles16
                    All Star
                    • Apr 2003
                    • 8317

                    #879
                    Re: 2007 New York Mets Discussion

                    great... ESPN just said that there is a report the Mets would be interested in signing A-Rod, if Wright agrees to move.

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                    • ckarlic
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                      • May 2003
                      • 4999

                      #880
                      Re: 2007 New York Mets Discussion

                      Originally posted by nyisles16
                      great... ESPN just said that there is a report the Mets would be interested in signing A-Rod, if Wright agrees to move.

                      Good luck to you guys if he ends up on the Mets!!
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                      • Pared
                        Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 39337

                        #881
                        Re: 2007 New York Mets Discussion

                        Originally posted by nyisles16
                        great... ESPN just said that there is a report the Mets would be interested in signing A-Rod, if Wright agrees to move.
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                        • fsquid
                          Banned
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 17635

                          #882
                          Re: 2007 New York Mets Discussion

                          Originally posted by nyisles16
                          great... ESPN just said that there is a report the Mets would be interested in signing A-Rod, if Wright agrees to move.
                          ouch, I'd rather sign the two Japaneeese pitchers who are expected to make the jump over to the MLB.

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                          • nyisles16
                            All Star
                            • Apr 2003
                            • 8317

                            #883
                            Re: 2007 New York Mets Discussion

                            Originally posted by fsquid
                            ouch, I'd rather sign the two Japaneeese pitchers who are expected to make the jump over to the MLB.
                            I would rather sign anyone than him... his offense would help, but his "me first" attitude stinks

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                            • TarHeelMan
                              Th* H*mb*rg*r P*mp
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 7853

                              #884
                              Re: 2007 New York Mets Discussion

                              I wouldn't be adverse to having A-Rod on the Mets... Shoot, who wouldn't want .300, 40-45 HRs and 120 RBIs penciled in? But at this point, we need pitching, pitching, pitching. Arod doesn't fill that need.

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                              • fsquid
                                Banned
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 17635

                                #885
                                Re: 2007 New York Mets Discussion

                                Exactly, no one in this thread is saying that A-Rod is anything less than a superstar. I'd just rather find a pitcher who can actually pitch 7 innings a night. The offense was not the problem, the Mets were 4th in the league in runs scored, even with the pitiful September.
                                Last edited by fsquid; 10-31-2007, 10:13 AM.

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