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  • Coug00
    LOB
    • Jul 2002
    • 3476

    #106
    Re: 07 Seattle Mariners

    I got a good laugh out of this from USSMariner...

    4. And finally, John McLaren failed. Spectacularly. He continues to demonstrate a massive lack of understanding of actual baseball strategy that is staggering in depth. Sean Green gets to face Vladimir Guerrero with first base open because Vlad was 0 for 4 career against Green? That’s the kind of analysis I’d expect from a six year old. You have to have a complete lack of understanding of the the uses of statistics to decide that an 0-for-4 means something, but McLaren clings to it to make a terrible, and crucial, decision in a game that could swing the tide of the playoff race.

    Then, the unbelievable capper.

    Bases loaded, two outs, top of the 8th, trailing by one run - this is the most important at-bat of the game, even before accounting for the fact that Vladimir Guerrero is the one coming to the plate. The leverage index of this situation was 2.92, and remember, its scaled where 1.00 is exactly average and anything over 1.8 is considered high pressure - 2.92 is nail-biting, game-changing, biggest-play-of-the-game territory.

    John McLaren chose Rick White. Rick White. The worst pitcher in the bullpen. Rick White would be the worst pitcher in almost every bullpen in the American League, and certainly the worst pitcher on any contending team in the A.L. He’s not a major league pitcher, and he hasn’t been for a while now. The people who tell you he is simply don’t understand how to evaluate pitchers. The only scenario where carrying Rick White is a defensible position is if you intend to use him to pitch in already decided games, for multiple innings, and let him be a veteran voice for the kids in the bullpen. Rick White’s skills, at this point, are essentially those of a coach, not a player.

    That’s not how John McLaren sees him. John McLaren sees a guy who has experience, and above all else, he values track records, and of course, Rick White has a track record against Vladimir Guerrero. 2-12 in his career - this must be a good matchup, right? Uhh, no. Look at the years when those matchups occurred. Individual batter-pitcher stats mean less than nothing. They should not be used to make any kind of in game strategical decision.

    It matters not that Rick White has as much business on the mound as you or I do in a close game in a playoff race. The result, of course, wasn’t hard to see coming - a couple of base hits, the bases clear, and the game is essentially over.

    George Sherrill is then brought in to pitch mopup work in the 9th inning of a game the team trailed 10-6 and had little chance of winning. J.J. Putz never pitched. The Mariners, in a game that could very well cost them a chance at the division title, chose Rick White over George Sherrill or J.J. Putz. That’s incompetence of a level that I can’t even define.
    The genius that is John McLaren.
    Member of The OS Baseball Rocket Scientists Association

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    • bkrich83
      Has Been
      • Jul 2002
      • 71582

      #107
      Re: 07 Seattle Mariners

      The Angels own King Felix.
      Tracking my NCAA Coach Career

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      • Coug00
        LOB
        • Jul 2002
        • 3476

        #108
        Re: 07 Seattle Mariners

        Originally posted by bkrich83
        The Angels own King Felix.
        Which is weird, because prior to this season Felix has utterly dominated LAA. Oh well, you can't expect a 21 year old to be consistent. He's still better at 21 than any pitcher currently in baseball was at his age.
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        • HungryBologna
          MVP
          • Nov 2003
          • 3156

          #109
          Re: 07 Seattle Mariners

          It's a a little dirty in here....

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          • Coug00
            LOB
            • Jul 2002
            • 3476

            #110
            Re: 07 Seattle Mariners

            Maybe they should get Rick White to try throwing with his left arm instead. Why does Bavasi insist on having a veteran in the bullpen? All of his "veteran" additions this season have been horrible.

            This collapse sucks, but the silver lining is that Bavasi and McLaren are firmly on the hot seat.
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            • Coug00
              LOB
              • Jul 2002
              • 3476

              #111
              Re: 07 Seattle Mariners

              RIP

              Its been a fun year, but its going to take a serious collapse by New York and a ridiculous hot streak by Seattle to make up the difference now.

              The silver lining is that this should be the end of Bavasi and McLaren.
              Member of The OS Baseball Rocket Scientists Association

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              • WazzuRC
                Go Cougs!
                • Dec 2002
                • 5617

                #112
                Re: 07 Seattle Mariners

                NOOOOOOOOO!!!

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