2008 Cincinnati Reds

[duke776]

Re: 2008 Cincinnati Reds

so with Griffey gone, I'm assuming Jay Bruce moves to RF full time, meaning that Patterson is now our everyday CF. Great. Here's hoping a speedy recovery to both Hairston and Hopper.

Hariston's back, he just got off the DL. Hopper is probably out for the year. So hopefully Hariston can stay healthy this time, and if he gets injured I'd probably rather give Chris Dickerson a shot over Patterson is center.

[SlimKibbles]

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Most guys wont sign balls that someone else has already signed.
I am a very big collector or signed baseballs (I have about 100 signed baseballs, including 12 from the big Red machine era) and most guys will not sign a ball someone else has already signed. You really dont want them to sign them anyway as it lowers the value of the ball. Its hard to believe but a signed "team" ball is worth less then a ball signed by just one superstar.

A friend sent me something the other day, that I assume came from Hal McCoy, about Mark Stowe throwing a box of signed team baseballs across the clubhouse because someone had smudged the the names and written Pete Rose on them. I imagine it was a pain for Stowe even to get the balls signed by the whole team and then someone messed them up. My guess is Junior or Dunn did that. Anyway, in that same e-mail it was mentioned that Junior didn't sign balls that had someone else's name on it too. For team balls, he apparently had to be lied to and made to sign first. What you said, jake, makes some sense, but I just thought that was a little egotistical.

[Motown]

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A friend sent me something the other day, that I assume came from Hal McCoy, about Mark Stowe throwing a box of signed team baseballs across the clubhouse because someone had smudged the the names and written Pete Rose on them. I imagine it was a pain for Stowe even to get the balls signed by the whole team and then someone messed them up. My guess is Junior or Dunn did that. Anyway, in that same e-mail it was mentioned that Junior didn't sign balls that had someone else's name on it too. For team balls, he apparently had to be lied to and made to sign first. What you said, jake, makes some sense, but I just thought that was a little egotistical.

Well, i can't believe i'm sayin' this but i'm glad he's gone...just like the article...
"Big box under the Christmas tree, unopened for nine years." couldn't have said it better. hope he does well in Chi-town tho.

[PhantomPain]

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Has anyone heard? That Reds suck!

Here is the lineup I think we should be using:

CF Hairston
SS Keppinger/Phillips
RF Bruce
LF Dunn
3B Encarnacion
1B Votto
2B Phillips/Keppinger
C Catcher
P Pitcher

Hairston is obviously our best leadoff option. I like Keppinger in the 2 hole but I also like Phillips and I think an argument can be made as to why you would want either there or in the 7 hole. Bruce will likely stay in the 3 hole as that is where he has hit most of his professional career. That's ok as he has hit 2 dingers in 2 games there. I like Dunn behind Bruce and in front of Encarnacion as I think it gives him protection. I also think that with Dunn in the 4 hole, it gives Bruce a better chance of having something to hit. If Bruce gets on, and Dunn hits a dinger then it will be with someone on base. Also I think that EE is showing he can be and will be a 30+ home run player. If he can somehow avoid those 2 month long slumps to start the season he would likely already have 30 home runs. So he protects Dunn. Votto protects him and Phillips protects Votto. If Keppinger is in the 7 hole then most teams won't think he is a threat but when he lines a double to the gap and scores Votto they will think twice about that strategy next time.

Anyway, I just wanted to throw out that lineup and reasons and see what you guys thought about it. Just something to talk about unless we continually talk about how bad the Reds suck.

[duke776]

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Call up Chris Dickerson, DFA or option Corey Patterson.

Edit: Also, I hope Hariston won't be out long, I heard he won't be playing this weekend, but hopefully not another DL stint.

[SlimKibbles]

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Nice job of getting swept by the worst team in baseball this weekend. Cueto had a rough 1st inning but was fine the rest of the way. Reds gave him no run-support. Now it's back home to face the Brew Crew and the Astros. I see at least a 6-game losing streak before winning a game. Maybe they can split with Houston next weekend?

[PhantomPain]

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Nice job of getting swept by the worst team in baseball this weekend. Cueto had a rough 1st inning but was fine the rest of the way. Reds gave him no run-support. Now it's back home to face the Brew Crew and the Astros. I see at least a 6-game losing streak before winning a game. Maybe they can split with Houston next weekend?

Haven't we torchered ourselves enough with this team this year? I mean seriously. They suck. They act like they don't sometimes but then they remind us just how much they suck.

Hear's to hoping Jocketty does something in the offseason to give me a reason to give a crap next year. Otherwise my fandom may just dwindle to nothing. Even if he does I won't believe it will help until we make the playoffs or at the worst, finish 2nd or 3rd in the division and have a record above .500. Otherwise this team year in and year out cries wolf. "We are going to be better." "They are the darkhorse." Bull crap. The Reds suck and nothing will make me think otherwise until they start making moves to better the team and until they can show they are winners.

[SlimKibbles]

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Haven't we torchered ourselves enough with this team this year? I mean seriously. They suck. They act like they don't sometimes but then they remind us just how much they suck.

Hear's to hoping Jocketty does something in the offseason to give me a reason to give a crap next year. Otherwise my fandom may just dwindle to nothing. Even if he does I won't believe it will help until we make the playoffs or at the worst, finish 2nd or 3rd in the division and have a record above .500. Otherwise this team year in and year out cries wolf. "We are going to be better." "They are the darkhorse." Bull crap. The Reds suck and nothing will make me think otherwise until they start making moves to better the team and until they can show they are winners.

Pretty much. I think Jocketty will do what is needed during the off-season. I'm not sure what exactly that is, but I trust him. There was a time when I got so sick of the Bengals that I wanted them to lose so badly that it would force major changes, which ended up being Marvin Lewis and coaches from outside the Bengals family. I'm not at that point with the Reds yet.

[ChubbyBanana]

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Haven't we torchered ourselves enough with this team this year? I mean seriously. They suck. They act like they don't sometimes but then they remind us just how much they suck.

Hear's to hoping Jocketty does something in the offseason to give me a reason to give a crap next year. Otherwise my fandom may just dwindle to nothing. Even if he does I won't believe it will help until we make the playoffs or at the worst, finish 2nd or 3rd in the division and have a record above .500. Otherwise this team year in and year out cries wolf. "We are going to be better." "They are the darkhorse." Bull crap. The Reds suck and nothing will make me think otherwise until they start making moves to better the team and until they can show they are winners.

I've kind of given up on this season. Time for me to start watching the "winning" teams on Sportscenter.

Also about time for me to change my Avatar.

Here's to next spring, when we will be thinking "NL Central Champs" again.

[PhantomPain]

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I've kind of given up on this season. Time for me to start watching the "winning" teams on Sportscenter.

Also about time for me to change my Avatar.

Here's to next spring, when we will be thinking "NL Central Champs" again.

I am not getting suckered into that fool's gold again. :wink:

I think the Reds have now become the Braves from the mid 1980's. Wow....that's sad.

[sportsdude]

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this team ****ing blows.

[PhantomPain]

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this team ****ing blows.

Am I the only one starting to feel like the fans of the Indians in the movie Major League? The more depressing it is, the more comical this is becoming to me.

[sportsdude]

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Am I the only one starting to feel like the fans of the Indians in the movie Major League? The more depressing it is, the more comical this is becoming to me.

it's to the point where I feel bad for guys like Phillips and Dunn for having to suffer through constant losing. I mean dropping three in a row to the worst team in the league? What is with Dusty that the team plays so poorly on the road? It's baffling. I'm still a fan and I'm still going to watch the games but maybe, like a drug addict, the team needs to hit rock bottom before it can start getting better.

[duke776]

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it's to the point where I feel bad for guys like Phillips and Dunn for having to suffer through constant losing. I mean dropping three in a row to the worst team in the league? What is with Dusty that the team plays so poorly on the road? It's baffling. I'm still a fan and I'm still going to watch the games but maybe, like a drug addict, the team needs to hit rock bottom before it can start getting better.

I'm right with you, I feel bad for the good players too. Well, atleast that Kearns Lopez deal is looking better to me now, I was a big fan of both of them and thought the only good person we would be getting back was Bray, well Majewski is getting better he had a rough night against the nationals ut had turned it around this year. Thompson has done really good in the minors and showed some good stuff when he was up here. It's something to be happy about.

[PhantomPain]

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Ok so I read that they are going to give Bruce a long hard look at batting 3rd. The first two games he hits a dinger in each. Hits safely in all three games and goes 4 for 12 for a .333 avg.

Today he is batting 7th. Can anyone tell me the logic behind that?