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  • WaitTilNextYear
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    • Mar 2013
    • 16830

    #811
    Re: The Friendly Confines: The Official Chicago Cubs Thread

    Originally posted by Mo
    It's not about being ready, It's all about getting him AB since he's missed about a big chunk of the past 2 seasons.

    Since he's already on the 40, might as well call him up and have him seeing ML pitching
    Yeah, but he can get ABs just fine against AAA pitching, which has proven to be quite a challenge for him to figure out so far. It's a balance between not breaking his confidence and getting him the most relevant experience possible. Again, there's no need to rush him at all. The 500 PA per level philosophy has served Theoyer well in the past. We don't need a Rizzo-type situation where he gets rushed, develops bad habits and needs to get sent back down anyway. If a prospect is not ready to compete at a certain level, it makes no sense to get him what amounts to a hollow, demoralizing experience being there.
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    • Mo
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      • May 2003
      • 11425

      #812
      Re: The Friendly Confines: The Official Chicago Cubs Thread

      He's not getting called up within the next week. It will be after the AAA season is over.
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      • fugazi
        MVP
        • Apr 2003
        • 3749

        #813
        Re: The Friendly Confines: The Official Chicago Cubs Thread

        As for the Addison/Baez/Castro debate....the problem is easily solved in only one of two ways, i think...

        1)Bryant moves to OF (I know I've said this a million times, sorry...) You could then put Baez at third, Addison at SS (he's the best glove, unless i'm mistaken), and Castro at 2B where he would still have value but a little less responsibility...

        OR

        2) Trade one of em...Baez seems way too "electric" to trade...so I'd prefer one of the other two...


        A couple years ago, someone suggested moving Barney to SS and Castro to 2B...I still think that was one of the best ideas I'd heard. It was when Castro was a space cadet...

        And I think he's the wild card here...When it's all said and done, and Bryant and Baez are up with the big club, there's no room for him in the middle of the order. There's also going to be speculation about "who, if anyone" is going to be traded out of the over-ripe crop of IFers...as we are already speculating...there will also likely be talk about position switching...and being removed from SS is a demotion, in any situation.

        So, we have a player, with lots of positives, but a history of a slightly unreliable mentality, who will perhaps be facing some kind of adversity...I don't think any of us should be surprised if he were to flake out in some way as a result of all the potential upheaval. I'm just saying the likelihood of him imploding seems higher than average.
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        • authentic
          All Star
          • Jul 2009
          • 5812

          #814
          Re: The Friendly Confines: The Official Chicago Cubs Thread

          Castro is controlled for many years to come, is a young upcoming star, and has improved drastically at ss. We are not trading this kid. Russell will play 2nd or 3rd and Baez opposite. Reports say Russell has decent footwork, which I can agree with after watching some games. He has an average arm, and good range. His hands are his only plus defensively. He's a perfect second baseman. Castro is our shortstop.


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          • JODYE
            JB4MVP
            • May 2012
            • 4834

            #815
            Re: The Friendly Confines: The Official Chicago Cubs Thread

            Of the 4, I'd MUCH rather have Russell and Castro.

            Baez is electric, but there are major holes in his swing. Reason why so far in like 78 at bats, he's striking out nearly every other at bat. Just to put this in perspective, let's say Baez was an every day player from the beginning of the season and played all 162 games, striking out at his current rate getting to the plate 650 times (and that might be under how many at bats he gets in a full season) he'd break Mark Reynolds strikeout record by more than 20 Ks.

            Now, I know he has plenty of room to grow and what we've seen is a small sample size, but if you change his swing, what does that do to him? You have him change his plate philosophy, how does that affect him as a hitter? Look at what Sveum did to Castro in one year. Had people really thinking Castro needed to be shipped out of town. I think you are going to have to take the good with the bad with Baez.

            I personally think Russell is going to end up being the best out of them all. There are guys you watch, and you just know they have it. He is one of them. Great hands, solid power, great arm at short. I do agree I think he moves to second, but of the 4, those are the two I'm keeping.
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            • authentic
              All Star
              • Jul 2009
              • 5812

              #816
              Re: The Friendly Confines: The Official Chicago Cubs Thread

              Originally posted by 13
              Of the 4, I'd MUCH rather have Russell and Castro.

              Baez is electric, but there are major holes in his swing. Reason why so far in like 78 at bats, he's striking out nearly every other at bat. Just to put this in perspective, let's say Baez was an every day player from the beginning of the season and played all 162 games, striking out at his current rate getting to the plate 650 times (and that might be under how many at bats he gets in a full season) he'd break Mark Reynolds strikeout record by more than 20 Ks.

              Now, I know he has plenty of room to grow and what we've seen is a small sample size, but if you change his swing, what does that do to him? You have him change his plate philosophy, how does that affect him as a hitter? Look at what Sveum did to Castro in one year. Had people really thinking Castro needed to be shipped out of town. I think you are going to have to take the good with the bad with Baez.

              I personally think Russell is going to end up being the best out of them all. There are guys you watch, and you just know they have it. He is one of them. Great hands, solid power, great arm at short. I do agree I think he moves to second, but of the 4, those are the two I'm keeping.

              I think Baez will grow much like Rizzo did. Now I don't expect the patience Rizzo has but it's not impossible for guys to change their approach and be successful. I personally want all of them. I want to see us spend our money on pitching and let these bats mature and grow into a dangerous lineup. Our lineup with Castro, Rizzo, Baez, Bryant, Soler, Alcantara, Castillo, Coughlan, Ruggiano, etc next year could be fun to watch.


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              • ThreeKing
                Banned
                • Aug 2007
                • 5852

                #817
                Re: The Friendly Confines: The Official Chicago Cubs Thread

                It's going to be very interesting when Almora gets called up in a couple years. I do not want Alcantara traded or sitting. I think dude is going to be a flat-out stud.

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                • ThreeKing
                  Banned
                  • Aug 2007
                  • 5852

                  #818
                  Re: The Friendly Confines: The Official Chicago Cubs Thread

                  Kris Bryant just hit his 21st AAA homer. That's 43 on the season. Does anyone know at what time the Cubs have to wait until calling him up next year so they don't burn a year of service? If it's not until late April or early May, and he starts right out of camp, then why not just call him up now?

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                  • Jr.
                    Playgirl Coverboy
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 19171

                    #819
                    Re: The Friendly Confines: The Official Chicago Cubs Thread

                    Originally posted by ThreeKing
                    Kris Bryant just hit his 21st AAA homer. That's 43 on the season. Does anyone know at what time the Cubs have to wait until calling him up next year so they don't burn a year of service? If it's not until late April or early May, and he starts right out of camp, then why not just call him up now?
                    It's usually mid-late June to miss Super 2 status. They won't call him up now because the AAA season isn't over.
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                    • BleacherBum2310
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                      • Aug 2010
                      • 7107

                      #820
                      Re: The Friendly Confines: The Official Chicago Cubs Thread

                      There's no point calling him up now. Expect late April next year
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                      • ThreeKing
                        Banned
                        • Aug 2007
                        • 5852

                        #821
                        Re: The Friendly Confines: The Official Chicago Cubs Thread

                        Originally posted by BleacherBum2310
                        There's no point calling him up now. Expect late April next year

                        I totally disagree with this. If he makes the Cubs out of ST next year, which is VERY likely, then aren't they burning that year anyway??

                        There's NOTHING left for him to prove at Iowa. If I was Kris or his family, I'd be really pissed off right now.

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                        • Jr.
                          Playgirl Coverboy
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 19171

                          #822
                          Re: The Friendly Confines: The Official Chicago Cubs Thread

                          Originally posted by ThreeKing
                          I totally disagree with this. If he makes the Cubs out of ST next year, which is VERY likely, then aren't they burning that year anyway??

                          There's NOTHING left for him to prove at Iowa. If I was Kris or his family, I'd be really pissed off right now.
                          I'd be surprised if he makes the club out of ST next year. They'll do what they can to keep that extra year of (relatively) cheap service.
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                          • CBoller1331
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                            • Dec 2013
                            • 3082

                            #823
                            Re: The Friendly Confines: The Official Chicago Cubs Thread

                            Do you guys think next years 3B job Kris Bryant's to lose during Spring Training?
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                            • Mo
                              SSN
                              • May 2003
                              • 11425

                              #824
                              Re: The Friendly Confines: The Official Chicago Cubs Thread

                              Soler pulled from the game.

                              I dont wanna say, Here we go, but here we go?
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                              • Mo
                                SSN
                                • May 2003
                                • 11425

                                #825
                                Re: The Friendly Confines: The Official Chicago Cubs Thread

                                Kaps says it's true
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