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  • Blzer
    Resident film pundit
    • Mar 2004
    • 42533

    #436
    Re: 2012 Atlanta Braves thread

    Originally posted by aukevin
    Minor vs Sabathia tonight... Hard to get excited at watching that tonight.
    Just when you hope Atlanta will bring out the hitting sticks again, you get teabagged by a match up like this.

    The Yankees' defense last night was phenomenal. We couldn't catch a single break.
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    • Sportsforever
      NL MVP
      • Mar 2005
      • 20368

      #437
      Re: 2012 Atlanta Braves thread

      This team is a pretender...seriously, can't put together a complete effort. If the hitting is good, the starting pitching sucks. If the starters are good, the relievers suck. I wish it was 1995 again...
      "People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." - Rogers Hornsby

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      • Recktafy
        Banned
        • Jun 2012
        • 112

        #438
        Atlanta should have won the game tonight idk what's wrong with them it seems like every year it's always something so minor that keeps them from becoming an elite baseball team

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        • DonkeyJote
          All Star
          • Jul 2003
          • 9197

          #439
          Re: 2012 Atlanta Braves thread

          I don't think this team is a pretender at all. Sure the pitching hasn't been great. But the offense is one of the best in the league. I think they definitely need to make a deal in the next month and a half. Either they need Jurrjens, Medlen, Teheran, or Minor to really step up in the rotation, or they need to make a deal for a pitcher. And they need bullpen help. Venters has been hit hard all year. His ERA didn't really show it until today, but his peripherals certainly did. They really need a guy that can step into the 8th inning and shut the door.

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          • TheMatrix31
            RF
            • Jul 2002
            • 52929

            #440
            Re: 2012 Atlanta Braves thread

            I'm unbelievably concerned about Jonny Venters.

            Tonight was a disaster. Perhaps the worst loss of the entire season. Arguably more infuriating than what happened Sunday.

            This team isn't a "pretender", we're still damn good, but damn......so freakin' frustrating. Can't afford giving games away.

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            • DonkeyJote
              All Star
              • Jul 2003
              • 9197

              #441
              Re: 2012 Atlanta Braves thread

              Originally posted by TheMatrix31
              I'm unbelievably concerned about Jonny Venters.

              Tonight was a disaster. Perhaps the worst loss of the entire season. Arguably more infuriating than what happened Sunday.

              This team isn't a "pretender", we're still damn good, but damn......so freakin' frustrating. Can't afford giving games away.
              Two things concern me the most: Venters underperforming and Hanson's lost velocity. I don't see Venters bouncing back. Relievers tend to be here one minute gone the next. I don't expect him to turn it around much this year. He had a 1.71 whip going into tonight, and I'm sure it's much worse now. Hanson's lost velocity concerns me more for the longterm. He's not an ace if he's sitting at 89 - his fastball doesn't have enough movement, and he doesn't have enough control. He's a solid #3 starter. Problem is, the team doesn't have a #2 starter.

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              • TheMatrix31
                RF
                • Jul 2002
                • 52929

                #442
                Re: 2012 Atlanta Braves thread

                Agreed on both counts. Not sure what the course of action is for Venters.

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                • crques
                  All Star
                  • Apr 2004
                  • 5048

                  #443
                  Re: 2012 Atlanta Braves thread

                  Originally posted by TheMatrix31
                  Agreed on both counts. Not sure what the course of action is for Venters.
                  I think Venters needs some work at AAA to see if he can figure out what is going on. He's definitely not the same guy we saw last season, which makes me wonder which one is the real Venters.

                  As a lifelong Braves fan, I know that the crowds don't always turn out at Turner Field and the atmosphere isn't always the most intimidating for an opposing team. However, I believe that last night was an all-time low and such an embarrassment to have the Yankees seemingly playing a home game in Atlanta. The Crowd reaction for ARod's grand slam, and the eruption that followed Uggla's K to the end the game was ridiculous for an opposing team. I realize there are Yankee fans everywhere and seeing the Yankees in Turner Field is rare, but come on.

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                  • p_rushing
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Feb 2004
                    • 14514

                    #444
                    Re: 2012 Atlanta Braves thread

                    Originally posted by crques
                    As a lifelong Braves fan, I know that the crowds don't always turn out at Turner Field and the atmosphere isn't always the most intimidating for an opposing team. However, I believe that last night was an all-time low and such an embarrassment to have the Yankees seemingly playing a home game in Atlanta. The Crowd reaction for ARod's grand slam, and the eruption that followed Uggla's K to the end the game was ridiculous for an opposing team. I realize there are Yankee fans everywhere and seeing the Yankees in Turner Field is rare, but come on.
                    It always happens, same thing with the other AL East big team and the Cubs. There are a lot of bandwagon fans in Atlanta or people who have moved from those cities. It sucks, but it has always been like that.

                    The last playoff series against the Giants, Turner field was extremely loud. Regular season games usually are not.

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                    • crques
                      All Star
                      • Apr 2004
                      • 5048

                      #445
                      Re: 2012 Atlanta Braves thread

                      Originally posted by p_rushing
                      It always happens, same thing with the other AL East big team and the Cubs. There are a lot of bandwagon fans in Atlanta or people who have moved from those cities. It sucks, but it has always been like that.

                      The last playoff series against the Giants, Turner field was extremely loud. Regular season games usually are not.
                      Yes it does suck, but last night seemed worse than ever before. Maybe it is just me and my disdain for the Yankees that made me notice it more, but for whatever reason it seemed amplified last night.

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                      • Kohlstar20
                        MVP
                        • Feb 2005
                        • 1034

                        #446
                        Re: 2012 Atlanta Braves thread

                        We need bullpen help badly. Venters isn't himself anymore. O'Flaherty is nursing a sore elbow. Durbin is a mopup pitcher. Hernandez is our long guy and shouldn't be pitching in the 7th/8th regardless of the situation. Martinez is better than Durbin but that isn't saying much. And Gearrin is unproven in the majors with a career ERA over 7. Why did they send Medlen to AAA to become a starter?

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                        • DonkeyJote
                          All Star
                          • Jul 2003
                          • 9197

                          #447
                          I liked sending out Venters tonight. The sweep hurts though.

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                          • crques
                            All Star
                            • Apr 2004
                            • 5048

                            #448
                            Re: 2012 Atlanta Braves thread

                            Originally posted by DonkeyJote
                            I liked sending out Venters tonight. The sweep hurts though.

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                            Tough stretch coming up.....Baltimore, NYY again, & Red Sox. They need some wins!
                            Last edited by crques; 06-15-2012, 09:14 AM.

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                            • aukevin
                              War Eagle, Go Braves!
                              • Dec 2002
                              • 14700

                              #449
                              We've seen the last of Livan, designated for assignment. Meds back to the pen.

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                              • p_rushing
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Feb 2004
                                • 14514

                                #450
                                Re: 2012 Atlanta Braves thread

                                Originally posted by aukevin
                                We've seen the last of Livan, designated for assignment. Meds back to the pen.
                                What a waste of time, send him down, lose games because of the bullpen, then you decide to bring him back without him stretching out.

                                Glad to have him back in the bullpen though.

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