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  • ehh
    Hall Of Fame
    • Mar 2003
    • 28962

    #541
    Re: 2008/2009 Big East Thread

    PC is 6-2 in the BE, I guess alot of those analysts were right when they said the Friars could be a field of 65 team this year.
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    • J0nnD0ugh
      Hall Of Fame
      • Feb 2003
      • 16602

      #542
      Re: 2008/2009 Big East Thread

      Notre Dame is in serious trouble. Irish's rpi is now @ 78. Next 4: on the road @ UConn, Cincy, UCLA then home to Louisville. They'll be favored to lose in 3 of those. Which means they are likely to be looking @ a 12-10(4-7) record.
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      • countryboy
        Growing pains
        • Sep 2003
        • 52759

        #543
        Re: 2008/2009 Big East Thread

        Originally posted by ehh
        PC is 6-2 in the BE, I guess alot of those analysts were right when they said the Friars could be a field of 65 team this year.
        I bet they are still kicking themselves over the Marquette game.
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        • justamush
          Cutch Happens
          • Jun 2008
          • 930

          #544
          Re: 2008/2009 Big East Thread

          Originally posted by ehh
          PC is 6-2 in the BE, I guess alot of those analysts were right when they said the Friars could be a field of 65 team this year.
          I always thought Providence has some talent these last few years. It's just that I wouldn't let Tim Welsh coach a junior high team.

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          • crques
            All Star
            • Apr 2004
            • 5045

            #545
            Re: 2008/2009 Big East Thread

            Originally posted by ehh
            PC is 6-2 in the BE, I guess alot of those analysts were right when they said the Friars could be a field of 65 team this year.
            So do you think 10 teams could possibly get in from the Big East, assuming Notre Dame and Georgetown figure out how to win again? That would be crazy.

            Pitt, Louisville, UConn, Villanova, Marquette, WVU, Syracuse, Providence, Notre Dame, Georgetown

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            • countryboy
              Growing pains
              • Sep 2003
              • 52759

              #546
              Re: 2008/2009 Big East Thread

              Originally posted by crques
              So do you think 10 teams could possibly get in from the Big East, assuming Notre Dame and Georgetown figure out how to win again? That would be crazy.

              Pitt, Louisville, UConn, Villanova, Marquette, WVU, Syracuse, Providence, Notre Dame, Georgetown
              I don't think so. Between the Big East beating up on each other and given that at least one of these 10 will be knocked out in the first round of the BE tournament, I don't think there's anyway 10 teams get in from the Big East.

              I would say 7 is guaranteed, 8 is likely to happen, 9 would be the most.
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              • J0nnD0ugh
                Hall Of Fame
                • Feb 2003
                • 16602

                #547
                Re: 2008/2009 Big East Thread

                Pitt, UConn, L'ville, 'quette & 'Cuse are in.

                WV & Nova should be as well, as long as they don't have a disasterous February. I don't see how that will happen.

                Providence, Irish & G'Twn still have work to do.

                Providence needs a couple more big wins to convince people after an unimpressive OOC performance. Their rpi is currently only 61st, lower than Cincy's. They play 6 of the next 10 on the road. & the only home game they are sure to be favored in is Rutgers.

                Irish & Hoyas are in a tailspin. G'twn's rpi is still in the top 20. So their situation isn't as desperate. Plus their SOS is currently ranked #1. The last 10 games on the sched include, Rutgers, S.Fla, St. John's & DePaul.

                Notre Dame is in danger. Rpi @ 79. @ UCLA, @ Pitt, @ UConn & host L'ville. Likely 4 losses. Which brings their total "L's" to 11, w/11 wins. They host the Bulls, Storm, & Knights. Brings their record to 14-11. That leaves @ Cincy, @ WV, @ Prov & hosting Nova. Even if they manage to get 2 of the road games & beat Nova @ home, they are still likely in the situation of needing 2 wins in the BE tourney to be safe. They need to find a way to get a win vs those first 4 I mentioned to ease the pressure.
                Originally posted by VP Richard M. Nixon
                I always remember that whatever I have done in the past, or may do in the future, Duke University is responsible one way or the other.
                -August 17, 1960
                Thanks, dookies!

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                • ehh
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Mar 2003
                  • 28962

                  #548
                  Re: 2008/2009 Big East Thread

                  Notre Dame is screwed, they are probably NIT bound when looking at their remaining schedule as JD pointed out.

                  They've never been able to play much defense, but now they can't score outside of Gody. The best they can hope for is to win six of their final seven conference games. Relatively speaking it's not too brutal outside of a trip to UConn, though I don't see ND winning in Morgantown. I would say at best they'll finish 9-9 in BE play, possibly 7-11. No way they're making the Big Dance if that's the case.
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                  • crques
                    All Star
                    • Apr 2004
                    • 5045

                    #549
                    Re: 2008/2009 Big East Thread

                    After looking at the remaining schedules for the Big East, I'm thinking that 7 teams are probably definitely in......Louisville, UConn, Pitt, Villanova, WVU, Syracuse, and Marquette considering none of these have a monumental collapse over the next month. In order to get 8 or 9, somebody is going to have to catch fire and make a nice Big East Tournament run between Notre Dame, Georgetown, Cincinnati, & Providence.

                    I was worrying a little about my Mountaineers after the Pitt loss, but I think they're in pretty good shape. They're currently 17 in the RPI and are 15-5 overall. I figure if they go 6-5 over their last 11 and win 1 in the Big East Tournament, they're probably in. That's not bad considering that they close out the last 2 weeks of the season with Notre Dame, Rutgers, Cincinnati, USF, Depaul, and @ home against Louisville. There are definitely some winnable games there and hopefully they can steal a couple against Louisville, Syracuse, Providence, Pitt, & 'Nova prior to that stretch.

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                    • crques
                      All Star
                      • Apr 2004
                      • 5045

                      #550
                      Re: 2008/2009 Big East Thread

                      Wow...Louisville up 35-17 over WVU with some smothering defense but they are fouling the hell out of them with that press it looks to me like. Every time a Mountaineer throws or attempts to throw a pass they are having to pull their arm away from the Louisville defender. Would be nice to see some fouls called in WVU's favor here.

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                      • fishepa
                        I'm Ron F'n Swanson!
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 18989

                        #551
                        Re: 2008/2009 Big East Thread

                        Originally posted by crques
                        Wow...Louisville up 35-17 over WVU with some smothering defense but they are fouling the hell out of them with that press it looks to me like. Every time a Mountaineer throws or attempts to throw a pass they are having to pull their arm away from the Louisville defender. Would be nice to see some fouls called in WVU's favor here.
                        The refs have called quite a few touch fouls on UL. The way UL is playing they're going to be tough to beat. It all starts on the defensive end.

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                        • fishepa
                          I'm Ron F'n Swanson!
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 18989

                          #552
                          Re: 2008/2009 Big East Thread

                          Wow, UL is just begging to give the game away. By far the worst half they have played all year.

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                          • quaziemoto3
                            Pro
                            • Nov 2003
                            • 824

                            #553
                            Re: 2008/2009 Big East Thread

                            Nice to see Blair dominate with 23 pts and 21 boards. When he stays out of foul trouble Pitt is a very tough team to beat.
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                            • superjames1992
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                              • Jun 2007
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                              #554
                              Re: 2008/2009 Big East Thread

                              Well, it looked over at halftime, but WVU made it interesting at the end. All in all, I can't really feel too bad about the game. Losing on the road in a pretty close game to a top 10 team isn't too bad.

                              Originally posted by fishepa
                              Wow, UL is just begging to give the game away. By far the worst half they have played all year.
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                              • crques
                                All Star
                                • Apr 2004
                                • 5045

                                #555
                                Re: 2008/2009 Big East Thread

                                Originally posted by fishepa
                                The refs have called quite a few touch fouls on UL. The way UL is playing they're going to be tough to beat. It all starts on the defensive end.
                                I thought they called a lot of touch fouls both ways but let Louisville kill WVU in the 1st half. They were fouling like crazy on those traps with arms being held everywhere. The 2nd half was officiated much better on both ends in my opinion. One thing about a Huggins' coached team is that they won't quit and they certainly made it interesting today. I really liked the defensive intensity WVU came out with in the 2nd half and they were much more disciplined on their assignments. I can't say that I'm pleased with a loss, but I can say that a 6 point loss on the road at Louisville after being down by 20 isn't bad and I'm happy they never quit. This conference is tough and deep and that's putting it mildly. There aren't any easy games, even against the bottom of the league.

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