MyLeague Regression - (Because the issue should not be forgotten)

[DKTF]

Re: MyLeague Regression - (Because the issue should not be forgotten)

So if I understand correctly, 2k's official roster updates don't see the regression issue like custom rosters do?

Is the best "fix" right now if you don't want to adjust the players age to just roll with 2k's rosters for now in MyLeague?

No its a big big issues with 2k rosters has that is all I use and with those like 95% of players at 30 will get worse and not just worse but 4-6 points worse and even sever guys at like 28-29 and you can even have guys who have there best season at like 27-28 and yet they will get worse some times. This issue has nothing to do with custom rosters or 2k roster it Is just a game problem.

[madmax52277]

Re: MyLeague Regression - (Because the issue should not be forgotten)

This is my last statement,because people are very piss off around here and i don't blame them..lets make things clear people don't like how the system works, ok we get it..we have two systems (in season training) (off season regressing) if we raise up the in season training sliders and see players gaining points we start to worry and say thats to much points being added. the truth is players will find there strength and get better...so when the off season regressing starts it will find the players age and subtract what it can. so even if the players gaining skills because you raise the sliders up, the regressing will equal rating out in a good way it's a cycle thing.

[vtcrb]

Re: MyLeague Regression - (Because the issue should not be forgotten)

So if I understand correctly, 2k's official roster updates don't see the regression issue like custom rosters do?

Is the best "fix" right now if you don't want to adjust the players age to just roll with 2k's rosters for now in MyLeague?

ALL of the Below was with 2k's Official Roster.


These Results USING Jan. 29 2k Update. NO Tweaks except those stated below.

Nikola Vucevic

1st Test 85 Overall Rating- Made him 29yr old and Now he is 80 Overall after 1 season. After the 2nd Season he is an 76. No Changes in the Years Pro, Just the Age.

-85 Overall Rating- Left Everything the same as 2k. Year 1 he is 86 Overall. Year 2 he is a 88 Overall


THESE are the type of issues that are NOT working for ME. No sense in ONLY thing I changed was his Age.

Maybe this will make it clearer the type of issues I see whether it be 2k OR Custom Roster.

[xfgxyu]

Re: MyLeague Regression - (Because the issue should not be forgotten)

I agree as well and my decision on whether or not to purchase the game may hinge on whether this issue will be addressed.

[Hassan Darkside]

Re: MyLeague Regression - (Because the issue should not be forgotten)

Yeah actually I did explain it my post a few pages ago.

In regards to regression, MLB 2k had ratings for Peak Age Start and Peak Age End. I think wouldn't be a bad addition, or even making it an option with a correlated option to make it "2k Rating." That doesn't necessarily affect what ratings regress, but as everone seems to agree that itself needs an overhaul.

I think it might be a hidden rating in the roster. I know it was in the 2k14 rosters on last gen if you opened them up with reditor or Leftos's tool.

[BigT34]

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I think it might be a hidden rating in the roster. I know it was in the 2k14 rosters on last gen if you opened them up with reditor or Leftos's tool.

I think that's very possible.

The CPU generated SG I referenced, Gary Terrell, stayed 97 OVR til age 32 and didn't even lose a single speed or athleticism attribute point. That tells me there may be some sort of coded "peak age" rating in there. If 2K has done this in other titles, it's reasonable to think they may do it here.

Editable ratings for "peak age" as well as regression pattern once peak age is reached would be great.

[madmax52277]

Re: MyLeague Regression - (Because the issue should not be forgotten)

Me and my lab rat buddies did some testing..we might be right are wrong, and we came to a conclusion.

This so called 2k inflated rosters goes well with the regressing system because players all ages do get better during season..even some older players gain points when on a different team, so regressing is slightly balanced.

The deflated rosters doesn't do well with the system..because the regressing overwhelm the rosters its just to strong to slow it down.

Regressing is not just a age thing..its base off injuries, training, playing time, and teams..so if your kicking a** at the age of 30+ you will regress a little are not at all.

This is the best that we could see how the system works...enjoy the game it's really good this year.

[TheEmperor2001]

Re: MyLeague Regression - (Because the issue should not be forgotten)

Me and my lab rat buddies did some testing..we might be right are wrong, and we came to a conclusion.

This so called 2k inflated rosters goes well with the regressing system because players all ages do get better during season..even some older players gain points when on a different team, so regressing is slightly balanced.

The deflated rosters doesn't do well with the system..because the regressing overwhelm the rosters its just to strong to slow it down.

Regressing is not just a age thing..its base off injuries, training, playing time, and teams..so if your kicking a** at the age of 30+ you will regress a little are not at all.

This is the best that we could see how the system works...enjoy the game it's really good this year.

Wow... you're right. I just simmed through a full season with progression and in-season training set at 60 and regression was no longer an issue....at all. Thanks for the advice brotha!

[redsox4evur]

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Wow... you're right. I just simmed through a full season with progression and in-season training set at 60 and regression was no longer an issue....at all. Thanks for the advice brotha!

What rosters are you using? 2K's or custom ones?

[TheEmperor2001]

Re: MyLeague Regression - (Because the issue should not be forgotten)

What rosters are you using? 2K's or custom ones?

2K's. I imagine if you altered those two sliders with the custom ones your results would be better as well. Give it a try. I'm about to sim through another season with player progression at 55 instead of 60. See what that does...

[redsox4evur]

Re: MyLeague Regression - (Because the issue should not be forgotten)

2K's. I imagine if you altered those two sliders with the custom ones your results would be better as well. Give it a try. I'm about to sim through another season with player progression at 55 instead of 60. See what that does...

I'm not trying to sound like an *** or anything. But that is the issue. You either need to sim like 3 or 4 seasons in to the future to the same results as guys like me, Ronyell, Sapp, JA Money, VTCRB. We all use custom rosters to make the game more sim-like. And with 2K's rating system there are some legacy issues, meaning the new ratings systems help but some guys still have to high attributes to play like they do in real life. And definitely let us know about the in season training at 55. And keep track of rating changes for guys like James Johnson (Raptors), Marcus Thornton (Celtics), Jameer Nelson (Nuggets/Celtics/Mavs), etc. and then if you are on Xbox use the SimWorld roster under Bornstar Yellz, I think that's ronyell's xbox GT, and compare the changes with the same 55 and see how different the results are using the same set of guys. And by ratings changes meaning the drop change because all will drop by like 5 or 6 points no matter what roster you are using.

[Dreece]

Re: MyLeague Regression - (Because the issue should not be forgotten)

Once you raise the PROGRESSION and IN SEASON training to those levels you will open up a whole NEW problem for those who strive for authenticity like myself. Anybody that has used our classes know that we include all types of players with varied skill ranges.

So using default 50 progression rate one of our prospects enters the League with a 72 ovr with an 84 potential. Its almost a GUARANTEE that this player will become a 75 or 76 by seasons end from in season training, THEN he will gain another 3-6 points from Off season progression.

Its just a nerve racking situation anyway you shake it with 2k15.

A lot of our guys gets under 20mpg as rookies and they still increased if they had bad starts to the season or not. I've ran over 200 simulations testing our classes and it holds true every single time.

[madmax52277]

Re: MyLeague Regression - (Because the issue should not be forgotten)

Once you raise the PROGRESSION and IN SEASON training to those levels you will open up a whole NEW problem for those who strive for authenticity like myself. Anybody that has used our classes know that we include all types of players with varied skill ranges.

So using default 50 progression rate one of our prospects enters the League with a 72 ovr with an 84 potential. Its almost a GUARANTEE that this player will become a 75 or 76 by seasons end from in season training, THEN he will gain another 3-6 points from Off season progression.

Its just a nerve racking situation anyway you shake it with 2k15.

A lot of our guys gets under 20mpg as rookies and they still increased if they had bad starts to the season or not. I've ran over 200 simulations testing our classes and it holds true every single time.

I'm no genius...but don't you think a 30 team control will solve your problems?

Those younger players, set them on low training so they won't progress to fast..and for the progress sliders i wouldn't mess with that because it will cause problems. training sliders maybe will keep everything balance.

[madmax52277]

Re: MyLeague Regression - (Because the issue should not be forgotten)

Wow... you're right. I just simmed through a full season with progression and in-season training set at 60 and regression was no longer an issue....at all. Thanks for the advice brotha!

Yes..tell us what you see thanks.

[Dreece]

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I'm no genius...but don't you think a 30 team control will solve your problems?

Those younger players, set them on low training so they won't progress to fast..and for the progress sliders i wouldn't mess with that because it will cause problems. training sliders maybe will keep everything balance.

I'm no genious either..but before I even said a word about this progression issue in any forum I did my usual thorough tests to make sure progression in our classes matches the talent and season outputs from EACH payer just like I've done the last 3 years.

I'm a 30 team guy but seriously if you have to control every team AND do TRAINING EDITS to get the desired results you might as well just do the change year work around and keep it moving. I haven't played more than 5 whole games..I've been testing the hell out of every aspect of this game so I can fire up a MyLeague and just play.

As I said before any way you shake it an issue will arise and the user will have to either do some light editing on their own or live with the results.