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  • flo182
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    • Oct 2013
    • 260

    #301
    Re: MyLeague Regression - (Because the issue should not be forgotten)

    Originally posted by Hot Kidd
    Is it that bad? I havent played MyLeague yet (only MyGM), but does it seriously ruin the league after a few years?
    yep it does because Rookies/fictional players are taking over the League in 2-3 years.

    It's a shame because roleplayers aged 27-32 are falling out of the game. Either they become free-agents and get replaced by some fictional player with an ugly random face or they sit on the bench with their 7-8 Mio $ Contracts and make it impossible for the team to use them (because their rating is in the low 60s ) or to replace them (contract).

    I really dont understand why 2k still ignores this issue. Whats the Point in scanning every player and making the players look super realistic when they disapper after 2-3 seasons in myGm, myLeague, myPlayer.

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    • madmax52277
      Banned
      • Nov 2014
      • 435

      #302
      Re: MyLeague Regression - (Because the issue should not be forgotten)

      Have we forgotten that we have the power to fix anything in myleague...if you see something that's not right fix it!

      Got a overrated rookie with a high potential fix it!
      Bad contract fix it!
      Over progress players fix it!
      Regressing players fix it!
      Greedy free agents fix it!
      Free agents signed to right teams fix it!
      Injuries prone players fix it!

      It doesn't take long to comb through the league and fix it realistically..just pick a time to fix and not play.

      We hold the power in our hands but still hearing issues..fix it fix it fix it...you see something wrong fix it...it's driving me crazy knowing this could be solved by fixing the problem on your own.

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      • redsox4evur
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        • Jul 2013
        • 18169

        #303
        Re: MyLeague Regression - (Because the issue should not be forgotten)

        Originally posted by madmax52277
        Have we forgotten that we have the power to fix anything in myleague...if you see something that's not right fix it!

        Got a overrated rookie with a high potential fix it!
        Bad contract fix it!
        Over progress players fix it!
        Regressing players fix it!
        Greedy free agents fix it!
        Free agents signed to right teams fix it!
        Injuries prone players fix it!

        It doesn't take long to comb through the league and fix it realistically..just pick a time to fix and not play.

        We hold the power in our hands but still hearing issues..fix it fix it fix it...you see something wrong fix it...it's driving me crazy knowing this could be solved by fixing the problem on your own.
        There is one fatal flaw that whole idea. And that is some people only have a limited amount of time to play these games. Some people only have a couple hours a week. And all of the stuff you said for us to fix, it takes a couple of hours to fix each of those things and if you want it done right it could be more because you have to go through all 30 teams of 15 players plus all of the FA's because there are going to be guys that should be signed at some point during the season because of an injury to a current player. And if you are using 2K's classes those could take around one whole day to fix all those mistakes. These mistakes include changing appearances for EVERY player in the draft, 150 players. Changing tendencies for, I will be generous in this estimation, 80% of the 150 players. That's another 120 players you need to change tendencies. And if you are using a custom roster that accounts for 2K's over inflated ratings that another 150 players you need to re-rate. So you think it takes a couple of hours to fix all of these issues. It could take a couple of days to fix these issues. And most people don't have that kind of time to fix these issues and still get in some playing time because of real world issues.

        For me, right now I am only home every other weekend and I don't even get to play video games all weekend because I do stuff with family, have homework to do, going shopping if I need food to eat at school because I don't have a car at school. So I only have a couple of hours each weekend I am home to play videogames. And I don't want to spend it fixing all these issues with my game so it will play the way I want it to play. Also I usually wait out a couple of months because I want a roster that will my make 2K experience more sim and I like the SimWorld roster. And then time for their draft classes to be finished so I can play as many seasons as possible.

        And there are others who are parents of young kids and have jobs. So they may only get a couple hours a night to play the game after their kid has gone to bed and the wife doesn't want to do anything. So in short people have lives that doesn't allow for them to fix all these issues.
        Last edited by redsox4evur; 02-08-2015, 03:33 PM.
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        • DKTF
          Banned
          • Jan 2015
          • 125

          #304
          Re: MyLeague Regression - (Because the issue should not be forgotten)

          Originally posted by madmax52277
          Have we forgotten that we have the power to fix anything in myleague...if you see something that's not right fix it!

          Got a overrated rookie with a high potential fix it!
          Bad contract fix it!
          Over progress players fix it!
          Regressing players fix it!
          Greedy free agents fix it!
          Free agents signed to right teams fix it!
          Injuries prone players fix it!




          It doesn't take long to comb through the league and fix it realistically..just pick a time to fix and not play.

          We hold the power in our hands but still hearing issues..fix it fix it fix it...you see something wrong fix it...it's driving me crazy knowing this could be solved by fixing the problem on your own.


          You got to be joking? To go though the whole league and change players rating take a long long time and we shouldn't have to fix a big problem like this that is a game problem. To go thought the teams and to try to make regression realistic is going to take forever has you are going to have to wright down the players so you remember who to increase and who to decress. I don't have that much time like I used to for video games because most of my time is work and catching up on sports has I am a sports nut. I some times have days in a row where I have no time to play and I have like a million games to play. I don't want to have to spend a lot of time fixing this that 2k messed up with when I could be playing a game instead.

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          • DKTF
            Banned
            • Jan 2015
            • 125

            #305
            Re: MyLeague Regression - (Because the issue should not be forgotten)

            Originally posted by Ruff Ryder
            I think the in-season training is the key to this. I've been doing some testing lately and have had some decent results with training set to 60 and player progression rate set to 10 or 20. Not sure what the right number is for that yet but with it that low I haven't seen massive gains.

            My theory is that with in season training, all players will improve over the course of the year. Some at much higher rates than others. At the end of the season, if Player X improves 2 points overall with training, when player regression hits, rather than dropping 4 points overall due to regression, his net drop will only be 2 points.






            I've also seen players improve that typically do not, like Goran Dragic at age 30, Monta Ellis, Wesley Matthews, Wilson Chandler. Some still drop at pretty high rates regardless like half of the Mavs roster, Kobe, Wade, Gerald Green, Kyle Korver. But it's definitely an improvement and the game is too good for me to shelve it over this issue.


            I will have to try that when I have a change but I don't belive there is a real way to fix this because in the testing I have done I noticed no difference not matter how I have player progression set at when it comes to players regressing. No matter if I have player progression at 0 or 100 guys decline by the same amount and at the same age the only difference with player progression at 0 or 100 is that at 0 there are a lot less guys that improve by like 5 or more points and more guys that improve by 1-4 points then when you have the play progression slider at 100.

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            • madmax52277
              Banned
              • Nov 2014
              • 435

              #306
              Re: MyLeague Regression - (Because the issue should not be forgotten)

              Originally posted by DKTF
              You got to be joking? To go though the whole league and change players rating take a long long time and we shouldn't have to fix a big problem like this that is a game problem. To go thought the teams and to try to make regression realistic is going to take forever has you are going to have to wright down the players so you remember who to increase and who to decress. I don't have that much time like I used to for video games because most of my time is work and catching up on sports has I am a sports nut. I some times have days in a row where I have no time to play and I have like a million games to play. I don't want to have to spend a lot of time fixing this that 2k messed up with when I could be playing a game instead.
              If you have to fix everything..something is definitely wrong with your rosters. i said if you see something that you do not like, fix it...read my posts bud, don't jump the gun to quick.

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              • Hassan Darkside
                We Here
                • Sep 2003
                • 7561

                #307
                Re: MyLeague Regression - (Because the issue should not be forgotten)

                Originally posted by DKTF
                I will have to try that when I have a change but I don't belive there is a real way to fix this because in the testing I have done I noticed no difference not matter how I have player progression set at when it comes to players regressing. No matter if I have player progression at 0 or 100 guys decline by the same amount and at the same age the only difference with player progression at 0 or 100 is that at 0 there are a lot less guys that improve by like 5 or more points and more guys that improve by 1-4 points then when you have the play progression slider at 100.
                Not so much player progression, but in-season training effects. I think you just have to lower the player progression slider to make sure players don't progress too much if you're raising the in-season training effects slider.
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                • DKTF
                  Banned
                  • Jan 2015
                  • 125

                  #308
                  Re: MyLeague Regression - (Because the issue should not be forgotten)

                  Originally posted by madmax52277
                  If you have to fix everything..something is definitely wrong with your rosters. i said if you see something that you do not like, fix it...read my posts bud, don't jump the gun to quick.


                  I did read you post and it sounded like you are just trying to defead the game. I didn't say I need to fix ever thing but when it comes to player regression this game flat out sucks!

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                  • DKTF
                    Banned
                    • Jan 2015
                    • 125

                    #309
                    Re: MyLeague Regression - (Because the issue should not be forgotten)

                    Originally posted by Ruff Ryder
                    Not so much player progression, but in-season training effects. I think you just have to lower the player progression slider to make sure players don't progress too much if you're raising the in-season training effects slider.


                    While like I said I will have to try this its just the thing is I heard some one else say that if you have both player progression and player training effects at 60 that it helps and now you are saying some thing a little different. So because of that it is starting to sound like madden and the QB taking sacks issue where there where a million different things that where said that would fix/improve it and I tried all of them and nothing made a difference lol.

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                    • madmax52277
                      Banned
                      • Nov 2014
                      • 435

                      #310
                      Re: MyLeague Regression - (Because the issue should not be forgotten)

                      Originally posted by DKTF
                      I did read you post and it sounded like you are just trying to defead the game. I didn't say I need to fix ever thing but when it comes to player regression this game flat out sucks!
                      Yes i am..because in season 2 older players are putting in work and gaining attributes, and josh Smith regress to a 75 rating and he was a free agent..so i raise up his help defense shot block just a notch, lower is asking price so he was a 77 rating..a week are so charlet hornets signed him, he jump from a 77 rating to a 80.

                      What i see i fix and it is not time consuming.

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                      • redsox4evur
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Jul 2013
                        • 18169

                        #311
                        Re: MyLeague Regression - (Because the issue should not be forgotten)

                        Originally posted by madmax52277
                        Yes i am..because in season 2 older players are putting in work and gaining attributes, and josh Smith regress to a 75 rating and he was a free agent..so i raise up his help defense shot block just a notch, lower is asking price so he was a 77 rating..a week are so charlet hornets signed him, he jump from a 77 rating to a 80.

                        What i see i fix and it is not time consuming.
                        Ok now go and do that with the rest of the players in the league and FA that are killed by regression.
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                        • madmax52277
                          Banned
                          • Nov 2014
                          • 435

                          #312
                          Re: MyLeague Regression - (Because the issue should not be forgotten)

                          Originally posted by redsox4evur
                          Ok now go and do that with the rest of the players in the league and FA that are killed by regression.
                          No need the regressing fits most of the players..some are wash up, let them play in china are some place, only some players that i feel deserve a little boots..like rondo mis-injuries need to be at 75-80 so he could have a solid year, he can still get injured but not that bad.
                          Last edited by madmax52277; 02-08-2015, 05:51 PM.

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                          • DKTF
                            Banned
                            • Jan 2015
                            • 125

                            #313
                            Re: MyLeague Regression - (Because the issue should not be forgotten)

                            Originally posted by redsox4evur
                            Ok now go and do that with the rest of the players in the league and FA that are killed by regression.


                            Exacley that is why it is very time consuming.

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                            • DKTF
                              Banned
                              • Jan 2015
                              • 125

                              #314
                              Re: MyLeague Regression - (Because the issue should not be forgotten)

                              Originally posted by madmax52277
                              No need the regressing fits most of the players..some are wash up, let them play in china are some place, only some players that i feel deserve a little boots..like rondo mis-injuries need to be at 75-80 so he could have a solid year, he can still get injured but not that bad.




                              Most players regression fits lol. So like 98% of players at 30-31 going down by 4-6 points and even having players at 27-28 having there best year and getting worse fits

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                              • madmax52277
                                Banned
                                • Nov 2014
                                • 435

                                #315
                                Re: MyLeague Regression - (Because the issue should not be forgotten)

                                Originally posted by DKTF
                                Most players regression fits lol. So like 98% of players at 30-31 going down by 4-6 points and even having players at 27-28 having there best year and getting worse fits
                                Before you laugh your *ss off.

                                I don't know what rosters you are using..my own myleague has healthy older players making progress by inseaons training everything are balance.

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