So how long will 2K continue to deny 3rd quarter momentum shifts?

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  • JerzeyReign
    MVP
    • Jul 2009
    • 4847

    #16
    Re: So how long will 2K continue to deny 3rd quarter momentum shifts?

    This is the best - and actually realistic - thing I've found to ensure 3rd quarter runs don't happen as much and thats to run the counters to whatever you were running in the first half. For example, if you've been running 'crashing the glass' all the first half, now put guys back to limit transition. If you've been dumping it into the post, look to get your shooters open.

    I think most of the runs are the AI adjusting. And don't forget to get use your timeouts. The best way to use them are to put them on manual and call the timeout once you've crossed the halfcourt line unless they just scored a 'highlight' play like a big 3 or dunk.
    #WashedGamer

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    • DoubleZ_3
      Pro
      • Sep 2013
      • 555

      #17
      Re: So how long will 2K continue to deny 3rd quarter momentum shifts?

      Answer a question for me. Do teams not blow leads daily in the nba? Barley win or barley lose after a huge lead of deficit? Runs happen. Part of the real game

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      • ksuttonjr76
        All Star
        • Nov 2004
        • 8662

        #18
        Re: So how long will 2K continue to deny 3rd quarter momentum shifts?

        Originally posted by DoubleZ_3
        Answer a question for me. Do teams not blow leads daily in the nba? Barley win or barley lose after a huge lead of deficit? Runs happen. Part of the real game
        Well, there are artificial runs. Then there are runs, because strategy adjustments were made...

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        • The 24th Letter
          ERA
          • Oct 2007
          • 39373

          #19
          So how long will 2K continue to deny 3rd quarter momentum shifts?

          In the last couple of days the Wizards lost a 35 point lead, the Cavs lost a 19 point lead, the ATL Hawks lost a 17 point lead last night...it goes on and on, if you look at box scores just focus in on the "largest lead" category, it's amazing how much each game shifts....and it rarely has anything to do with a dramatic adjustment in strategy, it's more of be ebb and flow of the game and percentages averaging out....

          Like I said, I have been on both sides of this argument but I just don't see it this year....I've had wire to wire victorys on and offline. I've had my big comebacks and I've been come back on. My issue is that most who claim this is happening to them frequently act like that there isn't a sliver of a possibility they could do anything differently or change their strategy to prevent it. So to answer the OPs question, I doubt 2k will ever address it. The community's not even on the same page about it, lol

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          • Komaru
            Just started!
            • Mar 2013
            • 4

            #20
            Re: So how long will 2K continue to deny 3rd quarter momentum shifts?

            I used to deny this and see it from both sides until I played a game against my roommate.

            The entire game I led by 15+ points, but suddenly in the 4th quarter he scores 30 to go into overtime. My players couldn't score. I tried to score from the perimeter, pick and rolls, post ups, and pick and pops but regardless what I did I could never score. On the other end, I couldn't stop him. I tried switching up who was guarding who, and going from man to man and zones and no matter what his shots consistently kept going in regardless how good the defense was.

            Artificial comeback is real and at times it is very obvious. It doesn't matter how well you or the other person is playing, if 2K decides they want them to win it will happen.

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            • ItsJustaGame
              Rookie
              • Apr 2014
              • 454

              #21
              Re: So how long will 2K continue to deny 3rd quarter momentum shifts?

              This kind of thing is bad at the Rec. In one game my team and I were down like 15-20 the entire game, then brought it within 10 early in the fourth, and then went on a 12-0 run in 58 seconds right at the 2:00 minute mark to take the lead and eventually win. It was awesome, but it's only fun if your on the right side (obviously). Point is, it's screwed up either way, we had no business even having a chance in that game.
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              • Daddy123
                Pro
                • Jun 2012
                • 993

                #22
                Re: So how long will 2K continue to deny 3rd quarter momentum shifts?

                This happens in real NBA too
                Hey

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                • Smirkin Dirk
                  All Star
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 5172

                  #23
                  Re: So how long will 2K continue to deny 3rd quarter momentum shifts?

                  Im hyper sensitive to AI cheating in sports games. Im sure Ive seen it in past 2K games. FIFA is just pure CPU cheese. I can't stop a CPU team in Madden who have 90 seconds to get the ball 80 yards for a TD.

                  But 2K 15 doesnt have any cheapness at all.
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                  • TrustedDegree4
                    MVP
                    • Jan 2014
                    • 1423

                    #24
                    Re: So how long will 2K continue to deny 3rd quarter momentum shifts?

                    This been in the series imo since 2k13. When ever I'm down at the half in MyTeam games, I almost aways come back to win. It has more to do with Momentum than anything else. You have to take advantage of the momentum coming out of the Half. This is why you need to stop a team at the rec once they go on a run or else the game is out of reach

                    I remember being down by 23 going into the half just to go on a 35-10 run in the third and tying it in the end to send it to OT. Just to end up winning by 10.

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                    • thedream2k13
                      MVP
                      • Jan 2013
                      • 1507

                      #25
                      Re: So how long will 2K continue to deny 3rd quarter momentum shifts?

                      Originally posted by Daddy123
                      This happens in real NBA too
                      Invalid excuse ,users should have control not "comeback logic"
                      #SIMNATION

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                      • nova91
                        MVP
                        • Oct 2009
                        • 2074

                        #26
                        Re: So how long will 2K continue to deny 3rd quarter momentum shifts?

                        Originally posted by Daddy123
                        This happens in real NBA too
                        Never in the real NBA will you see a team continue to play the same crap(offensively and defensively) style of ball that got them down 20+, erase that deficit the way you do in 2K and never will you see a team that continues to adjust based on what's working or not(offensively and defensively) and execute effectively completely fall apart the way you do in 2K. If real NBA team is up/down 20+ at the half and cuts/loses a lead down to single digits in the 3rd, you can almost guarantee it was because one team made adjustments and executed and the other did not.
                        Say "No" to railroaded MC modes.

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                        • the_riot
                          Rookie
                          • Aug 2007
                          • 335

                          #27
                          Re: So how long will 2K continue to deny 3rd quarter momentum shifts?

                          Wow, all this time I thought the fact that I was halfway through a six pack by the third quarter was the reason the cpu gained on me.

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                          • Shady Mike
                            Banned
                            • Nov 2014
                            • 1218

                            #28
                            Re: So how long will 2K continue to deny 3rd quarter momentum shifts?

                            Originally posted by DoubleZ_3
                            Answer a question for me. Do teams not blow leads daily in the nba? Barley win or barley lose after a huge lead of deficit? Runs happen. Part of the real game
                            Originally posted by The 24th Letter
                            In the last couple of days the Wizards lost a 35 point lead, the Cavs lost a 19 point lead, the ATL Hawks lost a 17 point lead last night...it goes on and on, if you look at box scores just focus in on the "largest lead" category, it's amazing how much each game shifts....and it rarely has anything to do with a dramatic adjustment in strategy, it's more of be ebb and flow of the game and percentages averaging out....

                            Like I said, I have been on both sides of this argument but I just don't see it this year....I've had wire to wire victorys on and offline. I've had my big comebacks and I've been come back on. My issue is that most who claim this is happening to them frequently act like that there isn't a sliver of a possibility they could do anything differently or change their strategy to prevent it. So to answer the OPs question, I doubt 2k will ever address it. The community's not even on the same page about it, lol
                            And thats my point. I don't mean to be disrespectfu to the OP, but I'm really sick of people who clearly don't watch basketball whining about "problems" with the game...because I see something like this happen at least once a week in the NBA and if you actually sat down and watched a game every now and again you would see how CRAZY the runs are in real life as well.

                            DEC 23, Sixers vs Heat Dwayne Wade DID play so health isn't an excuse...the virtually talentless Philadelphia 76ers rally after being down 23 points in the third...I watched this game live and it literally looked like someone had went into the settings and put the shooting sliders all the way up. The Heat kept turning the ball over and missed almost every shot they took...the worst team in the league the Sixers rallied and beat a healthy Heat team by 4 and I just remembered saying if this happened in 2K people would be crying "NOT SIM."

                            So my advice to you is step up, D up, and slow the game down once you get the lead because in the NBA no lead is safe, and that is properly reflected in NBA 2K15.

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                            • Smirkin Dirk
                              All Star
                              • Oct 2008
                              • 5172

                              #29
                              Re: So how long will 2K continue to deny 3rd quarter momentum shifts?

                              I'd argue it's rarer to see a wire to wire win than a game without a major swing (in the real NBA).

                              Hell I just watched the Cavs-Suns game today. Cleveland were up 30, and let Phoenix get it to 12. They were never threatened, but it's just a typical run teams get on.

                              When my Mavs got 23 up on GSW a few weeeks ago, not for a second did I think it was a winning lead.
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                              • RodionMaZ
                                Rookie
                                • Mar 2015
                                • 95

                                #30
                                Re: So how long will 2K continue to deny 3rd quarter momentum shifts?

                                Originally posted by Shady Mike
                                So my advice to you is step up, D up, and slow the game down once you get the lead because in the NBA no lead is safe, and that is properly reflected in NBA 2K15.
                                You are missing the OP point. This thing is forced AUTOMATICALLY by in-game logic. Why should I adjust something when my opponent doesn't adapt even a bit?
                                I'm okay to "step up" if it is the opponent who adjusted his game, not the game itseft gave him some "momentum" out of the blue.

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