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  • TaylorBoi
    Banned
    • Jun 2015
    • 188

    #121
    Re: So making a 7 ft. SF is the way to go for MyPark in 2k16?

    Originally posted by HowDareI
    I just don't think it's fair to people who get their guys by actually playing...I don't support shortcuts...

    If someone doesn't have time then that's their fault lol
    People do have jobs/careers to tend to before videos games. If you choose to play it out more power to you. Not an option for me this year considering COD drops shortly after 2K.


    Originally posted by bo.jangles344
    But who wants to watch highlights of someone dribbling back and forth and shooting a jumper?

    As of less than 2 months ago the side to side was about 50/50. I could live with that, and we would okay defense and win in transition. Throwing alley oops, scoring in transition as the basketball gods intended.

    We didn't do this, 2k did with patch 4. And all of us OSers get to sit around pointing fingers at each other accusing others as cheese. When in reality, 2k is laughing to the bank.

    I really think it's 2ks responsibility to fix this game before 16 comes out or I'm not buying.
    I don't think we'll see a fix for 2k15 man. The focus is all on 2k16 right now. Only changes we gon see is VC sales, something involving MyTeam, and the MyPlayer store discount .

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    • MrWrestling3
      MVP
      • May 2015
      • 1146

      #122
      Re: So making a 7 ft. SF is the way to go for MyPark in 2k16?

      Originally posted by GreenGiant25
      I agree with your point that there needs to be a downside as far as ratings to using those exploits but the ones you mentioned really don't make a lot of sense gameplay wise. I don't think there's a way for the game to differentiate between zig zag and dribbling for longer periods of time and it really wouldn't make sense to just drop the ball.

      For the zig zag cheese my suggestion would be for it to make stamina go down more from constantly changing direction which would make shooting ratings drop dramatically.

      For rebounding I think the simplest fix is just to have offensive 3 seconds.
      Agreed on both suggestions, would help alleviate several issues without ruining the gameplay.

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      • MrWrestling3
        MVP
        • May 2015
        • 1146

        #123
        Re: So making a 7 ft. SF is the way to go for MyPark in 2k16?

        Originally posted by TaylorBoi
        People do have jobs/careers to tend to before videos games. If you choose to play it out more power to you. Not an option for me this year considering COD drops shortly after 2K.
        That's understandable, imo best fix might be more a ranking system, where it would group people based on OVR/skill level, so you can play as much or little as you want without always getting rocked by people who maxed out.

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        • yonly1ME
          Rookie
          • Aug 2011
          • 98

          #124
          Re: So making a 7 ft. SF is the way to go for MyPark in 2k16?

          Originally posted by HowDareI
          I just don't think it's fair to people who get their guys by actually playing...I don't support shortcuts...

          If someone doesn't have time then that's their fault lol
          I think a way to fix that would be instead of using VC to upgrade attributes without playing, why not include 2x and 4x multipliers instead. People who don't play as often could use this and get a good amount of VC while still playing the game.

          Just throwing it out there and see what everyone thinks of it.
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          • TaylorBoi
            Banned
            • Jun 2015
            • 188

            #125
            Re: So making a 7 ft. SF is the way to go for MyPark in 2k16?

            Originally posted by yonly1ME
            I think a way to fix that would be instead of using VC to upgrade attributes without playing, why not include 2x and 4x multipliers instead. People who don't play as often could use this and get a good amount of VC while still playing the game.

            Just throwing it out there and see what everyone thinks of it.
            I was more so referring to the fact that I won't put much effort into 2k16 as I did with 2k15. I played 2k15 all the way through until I got myplayer to 99 overall. THAT GRIND WAS REAL. I won’t be doing that same thing in2k16. I’ll grind for the badges but to get upgrades (if 2k happens to do it thesame way) I’ll just do the foul out technique that people have been doing for some time now to make the process quicker. I just want to play MyPark/Rec…I don’t have much interest in the whole story mode jig nowadays. I'm just strictly here for the online experience.
            Last edited by TaylorBoi; 06-18-2015, 11:01 AM.

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            • HowDareI
              MVP
              • Jan 2012
              • 1900

              #126
              Re: So making a 7 ft. SF is the way to go for MyPark in 2k16?

              Originally posted by TaylorBoi
              People do have jobs/careers to tend to before videos games. If you choose to play it out more power to you. Not an option for me this year considering COD drops shortly after 2K.
              Listen my coach always told me "no excuses" lol, I have a job and school (and definitely a social life/basketball league) but I got a couple high overall guys legit. No simming or fouling out/buying VC.

              I just hate that people can buy VC as a shortcut. 9 times out of 10 it's not some 36 year old family man doing it, it's a 15 year old with their parent's credit card who's the very definition of lazy.

              It's not so much the fact that we can have the same overalls but achieve them in very different ways...it's that they can just buy their skill and compete. Last year the amount of 90 overall guys in the park on day 1 made me so upset.
              They took out Crew because people hacked their guys to 99 overalls...yet they let you buy VC now and let you max your guy. (as long as it's money in their pocket it's okay I guess).

              Obviously they'll never change that..they make too much on it. But I can't respect people who buy their players or 2K for allowing it. It takes out the competitive nature imo.
              I don't wanna be Jordan, I don't wanna be Bird or Isiah, I don't wanna be any of those guys.
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              • MrWrestling3
                MVP
                • May 2015
                • 1146

                #127
                Re: So making a 7 ft. SF is the way to go for MyPark in 2k16?

                Originally posted by HowDareI
                Listen my coach always told me "no excuses" lol, I have a job and school (and definitely a social life/basketball league) but I got a couple high overall guys legit. No simming or fouling out/buying VC.

                I just hate that people can buy VC as a shortcut. 9 times out of 10 it's not some 36 year old family man doing it, it's a 15 year old with their parent's credit card who's the very definition of lazy.

                It's not so much the fact that we can have the same overalls but achieve them in very different ways...it's that they can just buy their skill and compete. Last year the amount of 90 overall guys in the park on day 1 made me so upset.
                They took out Crew because people hacked their guys to 99 overalls...yet they let you buy VC now and let you max your guy. (as long as it's money in their pocket it's okay I guess).

                Obviously they'll never change that..they make too much on it. But I can't respect people who buy their players or 2K for allowing it. It takes out the competitive nature imo.
                In the end, I think there will need to be some sort of compromise.

                Maybe do a variation on what another poster brought up...instead of straight buying VC, maybe sell VC Boosters instead that would give 2x/3x/4x VC for a limited amount of time? At least that way you'd have still have to play the game a while to earn the actual VC, you'd just earn it at a higher rate for a few hours?

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                • TaylorBoi
                  Banned
                  • Jun 2015
                  • 188

                  #128
                  Re: So making a 7 ft. SF is the way to go for MyPark in 2k16?

                  Originally posted by HowDareI
                  Listen my coach always told me "no excuses" lol, I have a job and school (and definitely a social life/basketball league) but I got a couple high overall guys legit. No simming or fouling out/buying VC.

                  I just hate that people can buy VC as a shortcut. 9 times out of 10 it's not some 36 year old family man doing it, it's a 15 year old with their parent's credit card who's the very definition of lazy.

                  It's not so much the fact that we can have the same overalls but achieve them in very different ways...it's that they can just buy their skill and compete. Last year the amount of 90 overall guys in the park on day 1 made me so upset.
                  They took out Crew because people hacked their guys to 99 overalls...yet they let you buy VC now and let you max your guy. (as long as it's money in their pocket it's okay I guess).

                  Obviously they'll never change that..they make too much on it. But I can't respect people who buy their players or 2K for allowing it. It takes out the competitive nature imo.
                  I'm not making excuses but don't hate on the next man just because he decides to do things a different way. You fail to realize they can buy VC but they can't buy SKILL. That’s what it really comes down to. Just because someone has a player that’s 99 overall doesn’t mean he’s good. Just like being a Legend doesn’t make you good either. I’m really not concerned with what the next person does. I don’t buy into overalls and rank because it’s overrated IMO.
                  Last edited by TaylorBoi; 06-18-2015, 12:28 PM.

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                    Trequartista
                    • Jun 2013
                    • 247

                    #129
                    Re: So making a 7 ft. SF is the way to go for MyPark in 2k16?

                    Originally posted by HowDareI
                    Listen my coach always told me "no excuses" lol, I have a job and school (and definitely a social life/basketball league) but I got a couple high overall guys legit. No simming or fouling out/buying VC.

                    I just hate that people can buy VC as a shortcut. 9 times out of 10 it's not some 36 year old family man doing it, it's a 15 year old with their parent's credit card who's the very definition of lazy.

                    It's not so much the fact that we can have the same overalls but achieve them in very different ways...it's that they can just buy their skill and compete. Last year the amount of 90 overall guys in the park on day 1 made me so upset.
                    They took out Crew because people hacked their guys to 99 overalls...yet they let you buy VC now and let you max your guy. (as long as it's money in their pocket it's okay I guess).

                    Obviously they'll never change that..they make too much on it. But I can't respect people who buy their players or 2K for allowing it. It takes out the competitive nature imo.
                    The only problem I have with this is that I absolutely hate playing mycareer but I play park more than any other mode at this point. If they allowed us to improve our players by playing the game with attribute boosts I wouldn't buy vc. As it currently stands my only options are to grind through a mode that I don't like with my limited time (my schedule is like yours with school/work/other commitments), play mypark with a low rated player and rely on 200-300 vc/game which is nothing especially if you have more than one player and want to buy any of the ridiculously priced shoes or clothes, or buy vc.
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                    • HowDareI
                      MVP
                      • Jan 2012
                      • 1900

                      #130
                      Re: So making a 7 ft. SF is the way to go for MyPark in 2k16?

                      If they had separate online careers and you upgraded your guy by playing online this wouldn't be a problem...you'd need to actually play the game, and play it well to get more points to upgrade. Unlock badges the same as offline just while playing Park/Rec/Crew. No letting us buy VC for that.

                      What I'm getting at is people take the easy route 10 time out of 10.

                      7' small forward, easiest way to be good. Buy $20 worth of VC, you're already better than a guy who's played a week's worth of the game as a 6'2 point guard.

                      Skill-related? No. But, if you gave me a 6'2 guard that's like a 75 overall and then a 7' forward that's in the mid 80's I'm going to be able to go online and be just as good as anyone else with the forward...yet have a hard(er) time with the point.

                      At no point do you get rewarded in this game for playing longer, playing more sim or true to the game, or being a normal-sized player.

                      I'm a Legend 3, had a 6'4 shooting guard who was basically me just in 2K. Grinded it out, got him in the 90's. Badges on badges unlocked. Yet a dude who was a low level can just buy a 7' small forward and beat me...nah. He spent 10 minutes making his guy a 90. I spent months making my guy a 90. He just bought VC, changed his signature moves and bam...instantly one of the best players in any given park.

                      So regardless of how cheesy (we say) tall guys are, it starts with 2K looking at flaws like how bad defense is and how easy and accessible it is to buy your overall and be "good" and able to compete with legit players who put that time in to get their overalls.

                      I guess it's not popular on here for me to say I don't care if people don't have the time to play...but do you think Kobe, Lebron, MJ didn't work to be the best? Do you think the best players on 2K are good because they didn't put the time into the game to be good? Stuff takes time, if you don't have time you can't be mad your guy's a lower level and honestly you shouldn't be able to be a 90 overall if you didn't even play to get it.
                      You can't buy prestige 10 on Call of Duty because you're strapped for time lol can't do that stuff in other games.

                      So yea, I know a good player with a 90 will almost always beat a mediocre bought player with the same level...but when the good players start getting lazy and buying their players too, that's just unfair to anybody unwilling to spend extra cash on a game they already payed for.

                      Maybe if they started doing this we'd see a better, less cheesy online; where not everyone's a 95 overall already. Maybe guys need to start out as a lower overall. Maybe we need harsher caps. We definitely need separate online characters, and they definitely shouldn't be able to be bought.
                      Cuz just like in real life, the players who put in hours upon hours in the gym...they're the MVP's of the NBA, the 95 overalls. If we play online enough, we get that rank. If we don't have time, don't wanna play online, whatever the case...then you're just gonna be a mediocre player as it should be.
                      I don't wanna be Jordan, I don't wanna be Bird or Isiah, I don't wanna be any of those guys.
                      I want to look in the mirror and say I did it my way.

                      -Allen Iverson

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                      • MrWrestling3
                        MVP
                        • May 2015
                        • 1146

                        #131
                        Re: So making a 7 ft. SF is the way to go for MyPark in 2k16?

                        Originally posted by HowDareI
                        If they had separate online careers and you upgraded your guy by playing online this wouldn't be a problem...you'd need to actually play the game, and play it well to get more points to upgrade. Unlock badges the same as offline just while playing Park/Rec/Crew. No letting us buy VC for that.

                        What I'm getting at is people take the easy route 10 time out of 10.

                        7' small forward, easiest way to be good. Buy $20 worth of VC, you're already better than a guy who's played a week's worth of the game as a 6'2 point guard.

                        Skill-related? No. But, if you gave me a 6'2 guard that's like a 75 overall and then a 7' forward that's in the mid 80's I'm going to be able to go online and be just as good as anyone else with the forward...yet have a hard(er) time with the point.

                        At no point do you get rewarded in this game for playing longer, playing more sim or true to the game, or being a normal-sized player.

                        I'm a Legend 3, had a 6'4 shooting guard who was basically me just in 2K. Grinded it out, got him in the 90's. Badges on badges unlocked. Yet a dude who was a low level can just buy a 7' small forward and beat me...nah. He spent 10 minutes making his guy a 90. I spent months making my guy a 90. He just bought VC, changed his signature moves and bam...instantly one of the best players in any given park.

                        So regardless of how cheesy (we say) tall guys are, it starts with 2K looking at flaws like how bad defense is and how easy and accessible it is to buy your overall and be "good" and able to compete with legit players who put that time in to get their overalls.

                        I guess it's not popular on here for me to say I don't care if people don't have the time to play...but do you think Kobe, Lebron, MJ didn't work to be the best? Do you think the best players on 2K are good because they didn't put the time into the game to be good? Stuff takes time, if you don't have time you can't be mad your guy's a lower level and honestly you shouldn't be able to be a 90 overall if you didn't even play to get it.
                        You can't buy prestige 10 on Call of Duty because you're strapped for time lol can't do that stuff in other games.

                        So yea, I know a good player with a 90 will almost always beat a mediocre bought player with the same level...but when the good players start getting lazy and buying their players too, that's just unfair to anybody unwilling to spend extra cash on a game they already payed for.

                        Maybe if they started doing this we'd see a better, less cheesy online; where not everyone's a 95 overall already. Maybe guys need to start out as a lower overall. Maybe we need harsher caps. We definitely need separate online characters, and they definitely shouldn't be able to be bought.
                        Cuz just like in real life, the players who put in hours upon hours in the gym...they're the MVP's of the NBA, the 95 overalls. If we play online enough, we get that rank. If we don't have time, don't wanna play online, whatever the case...then you're just gonna be a mediocre player as it should be.
                        Separate online persona would definitely help imo, though i think in that case you have use skill points only for my career player and if you grind it out you should be allowed to get to 99 OVR(though it should take a LONG time to do it).

                        Online wise, I think fixing the mechanics would really help...if each position were made unique with their own strengths/weaknesses instead of everyone being able to do it all , the playing field would be more level regardless of what happens otherwise.

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                        • yonly1ME
                          Rookie
                          • Aug 2011
                          • 98

                          #132
                          Re: So making a 7 ft. SF is the way to go for MyPark in 2k16?

                          Originally posted by TaylorBoi
                          I was more so referring to the fact that I won't put much effort into 2k16 as I did with 2k15. I played 2k15 all the way through until I got myplayer to 99 overall. THAT GRIND WAS REAL. I won’t be doing that same thing in2k16. I’ll grind for the badges but to get upgrades (if 2k happens to do it thesame way) I’ll just do the foul out technique that people have been doing for some time now to make the process quicker. I just want to play MyPark/Rec…I don’t have much interest in the whole story mode jig nowadays. I'm just strictly here for the online experience.
                          True, I get bored of MyCareer pretty quickly as well. I like you prefer JRC/Park.

                          How would you feel if playing in the JRC could count towards your badge progressions? For example in your season you made 20 corner 3s for the season so far and you need 5 more for corner specialist. You then play a game or 2 in the JRC and hit 5 corner 3s, as a result you get the badge.

                          I think this would help, because the grind is real for those badges. My friend was trying to get deadeye by taking 100 "heavily contested" shots/game and still got no badge after 20+ games.
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                          • thedream2k16
                            Banned
                            • Apr 2015
                            • 651

                            #133
                            Re: So making a 7 ft. SF is the way to go for MyPark in 2k16?

                            Originally posted by GreenGiant25
                            The only problem I have with this is that I absolutely hate playing mycareer but I play park more than any other mode at this point. If they allowed us to improve our players by playing the game with attribute boosts I wouldn't buy vc. As it currently stands my only options are to grind through a mode that I don't like with my limited time (my schedule is like yours with school/work/other commitments), play mypark with a low rated player and rely on 200-300 vc/game which is nothing especially if you have more than one player and want to buy any of the ridiculously priced shoes or clothes, or buy vc.
                            If you only cared for nba teams and nba players you would easily notice 2k is taking advantage of you guys that restrict yourself to created player only modes. I make more VC from a quick online match or league games

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                            • TaylorBoi
                              Banned
                              • Jun 2015
                              • 188

                              #134
                              Re: So making a 7 ft. SF is the way to go for MyPark in 2k16?

                              Originally posted by HowDareI

                              What I'm getting at is people take the easy route 10 time out of 10.
                              I could counter this whole post with so many valid points but I just don't feel like it. At the end of the day the community gon do what they wanna do. Nobody cares who gets mad at the process someone else takes to build their player. It seems a lot of you people feel people should do things the way that you do them and thats just not the case...especially in the gaming community. Good luck in 2k16 though.

                              Originally posted by yonly1ME
                              True, I get bored of MyCareer pretty quickly as well. I like you prefer JRC/Park.

                              How would you feel if playing in the JRC could count towards your badge progressions? For example in your season you made 20 corner 3s for the season so far and you need 5 more for corner specialist. You then play a game or 2 in the JRC and hit 5 corner 3s, as a result you get the badge.

                              I think this would help, because the grind is real for those badges. My friend was trying to get deadeye by taking 100 "heavily contested" shots/game and still got no badge after 20+ games.
                              Only problem I see with this is players boosting to get the badges man. People will just change languages/get in the same rec and boost until they get whatever badge they need. I didn't have a problem getting them in MyCareer. My sole purpose of playing MyCareer was to get the attributes and badges and be out. I haven't played MyCareer for months now. Definitely isn't a bad idea if it can be executed properly

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                                Trequartista
                                • Jun 2013
                                • 247

                                #135
                                Re: So making a 7 ft. SF is the way to go for MyPark in 2k16?

                                Originally posted by thedream2k16
                                If you only cared for nba teams and nba players you would easily notice 2k is taking advantage of you guys that restrict yourself to created player only modes. I make more VC from a quick online match or league games
                                You've jumped to a conclusion based on one post and it couldn't be more wrong. The vast majority of time I've spent on this game has been on myleague. I didn't even start playing park until April. One of the biggest reasons why I don't like mycareer is because of the fantasy aspect. After 9 months myleague is a little stale for me so now when I get on it's mostly mypark. I made plenty of vc playing offline but playing 12 minute quarters limits how many games you can play in a sitting. Even if you get ~1k vc/game after 100 games that take an hour each you still don't have that much. After you buy uprgades and clothes/shoes you have enough to bump one player up to around 85-90. If you have more than one like most people do it takes a lot of grinding to upgrade because of how much vc it costs for upgrades in relation to what you get for playing games.
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