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  • 2_headedmonster
    MVP
    • Oct 2011
    • 2251

    #61
    Re: How do you guys use defensive settings?

    First of all this thread brings a tear to my eye i love that people are scheming and strategizing on the defensive end. Shouts out to DC for laying out the settings in laymens for those who are want to take the next step, but dont know where to begin.


    With that said, ive been toying around with the 'pre-rotate' option and im really not seeing the difference. If I set my big to off-ball gap and pre-rotate, when the roll man dives he should meet him before the block/charge circle. I haven't been able to accomplish that with any sort of consistency.

    I also took the "rotate to" approach with the same results.

    If someone has video of the before and after to support their hypothesis, id love to see where im going wrong.

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    • ThatMichiganFan
      Pro
      • Apr 2014
      • 801

      #62
      Re: How do you guys use defensive settings?

      Using it against the raptors, I saw a difference when Lowry or DeRozan drove towards the basket (I had pre-rotate set to on for both) or when someone like Corey Joseph drove to the basket (pre-rotate set to off). My big men took an extra step over to stop the drive against Lowry and Demar, but stayed home when Joseph drove.

      I have no proof, and the difference is very slight, so it may just be placebo. But I am going to use it as "rotate to" until told otherwise.
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      • 2_headedmonster
        MVP
        • Oct 2011
        • 2251

        #63
        Re: How do you guys use defensive settings?

        Ok i'll have to toy with it in non pick and roll circumstances and see what i can notice.

        I'm currently toying with how to drop down off of a minimal perimeter shooting threat on a drive but havent found the right combo just yet.

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        • jfsolo
          Live Action, please?
          • May 2003
          • 12965

          #64
          Re: How do you guys use defensive settings?

          https://<iframe width="560" height="...reen></iframe>

          Here's a short clip. I have Pre-Rotate on for Kevin Martin, because I am playing him tight on the perimeter making him put the ball on the floor every time. I also have Pre-Rotate on Nikola Peković, to keep him from getting easy rolls to the rim in the PnR.

          Notice how Black gets to Martin before he gets into the paint, and Bass comes over to keep Pekovic from getting a easy putback. Since I've been using the Pre-Rotate correctly Black and Hibbert have been especially good at stopping guys before they get all the way to the rim.
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          • 2_headedmonster
            MVP
            • Oct 2011
            • 2251

            #65
            Re: How do you guys use defensive settings?

            the help by Black looks good, damn good.

            two questions:

            This is with the 'pre-rotate to' concept correct?

            Superstar sim, no help d slider adjustments?

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            • Drejor
              Rookie
              • Nov 2014
              • 47

              #66
              Re: How do you guys use defensive settings?

              I swear it feels like the cpu makes an effort to rotate quicker and with out me switching to that player when I use it as "pre rotate to"

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              • BezO
                MVP
                • Jul 2004
                • 4414

                #67
                Re: How do you guys use defensive settings?

                Any way to see opponent's ratings/grades when in defensive settings? Not being as familiar with some players is killing me.
                Shout out to The Watcher! Where you at bruh?

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                • BrianU
                  MVP
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 1565

                  #68
                  Re: How do you guys use defensive settings?

                  Originally posted by BezO
                  Any way to see opponent's ratings/grades when in defensive settings? Not being as familiar with some players is killing me.
                  Same here I wish for this too. We should be able to click the right stick and see the player cards from the menu.

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                  • LorenzoDC
                    MVP
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 1857

                    #69
                    Re: How do you guys use defensive settings?

                    Originally posted by BrianU
                    Same here I wish for this too. We should be able to click the right stick and see the player cards from the menu.
                    I did a video about this for the devs. If you want this then maybe send it to @beluba via twitter, or any of the devs. I also put it in a wish list thread but if more people send it to them it has a better chance of happening.


                    <iframe src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/KzArHO-_j48" allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" width="560"></iframe>

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                    • ataman5
                      MVP
                      • Jun 2007
                      • 2620

                      #70
                      Re: How do you guys use defensive settings?

                      This thread is off charts back to old School OS days thread lovely!

                      I'm thinking pre-rotate will do a lot of wonders if we get the True definition of what exactly that triggers, my opinion after all these reading is set it on for good drivers and rollers.

                      But we'll only be sure after a confirmation by devs hopefully..

                      I also want to thank 2k has done tremendous job on defensive end for settings and how truly they affect Your d scheme.


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                      • fifasar20
                        Rookie
                        • Oct 2014
                        • 67

                        #71
                        Re: How do you guys use defensive settings?

                        This is an intriguing thread. Been following it hoping to get more clarification. This game is deeper than most people give credit to.

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                        • circuit
                          Banned
                          • Sep 2015
                          • 65

                          #72
                          Re: How do you guys use defensive settings?

                          Originally posted by jfsolo
                          <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/28wpCms80s4?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen=""></iframe>

                          Here's a short clip. I have Pre-Rotate on for Kevin Martin, because I am playing him tight on the perimeter making him put the ball on the floor every time. I also have Pre-Rotate on Nikola Peković, to keep him from getting easy rolls to the rim in the PnR.

                          Notice how Black gets to Martin before he gets into the paint, and Bass comes over to keep Pekovic from getting a easy putback. Since I've been using the Pre-Rotate correctly Black and Hibbert have been especially good at stopping guys before they get all the way to the rim.

                          What is your POE set on?

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                          • BobbyColtrane
                            Just some dude...
                            • Sep 2007
                            • 2284

                            #73
                            Re: How do you guys use defensive settings?

                            Based on that clip, I wonder what setting Pre-Rotate ON for the entire team does. Maybe everyone plays help and recover?

                            I remember in the old days of Spurs defense they would just rotate and rotate and rotate and smother any attack.
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                            • The 24th Letter
                              ERA
                              • Oct 2007
                              • 39373

                              #74
                              Re: How do you guys use defensive settings?

                              I play with it on for the entire team...been working really well for me...

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                              • ThatMichiganFan
                                Pro
                                • Apr 2014
                                • 801

                                #75
                                Re: How do you guys use defensive settings?

                                I will try having it set to on for the whole team tonight. I'm hoping that it will create a high-intensity, rotating defense, like Toronto or classic Spurs
                                GT: minibeast100
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