CPU AI Defensive Plan Fix for DT and Help Defense

[mauro78]

Re: CPU AI Defensive Plan Fix for DT and Help Defense

I'm puzzled too. I'm guessing there should be a "." after "be" and a new sentence with "your" being "You're". I just want to understand. If this is the case what are we bypassing? Bad cpu logic?

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So that means they shipped off and then on next patch this will be AUTO by default?

Really weird :-/

Can someone from 2K dev team finally explain?

[mauro78]

Re: CPU AI Defensive Plan Fix for DT and Help Defense

I'm puzzled too. I'm guessing there should be a "." after "be" and a new sentence with "your" being "You're". I just want to understand. If this is the case what are we bypassing? Bad cpu logic?

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Bad CPU logic? with that settings on MANUAL you can score 80pt with a player without any double or help defense from the CPU :-/

[Permatron]

Re: CPU AI Defensive Plan Fix for DT and Help Defense

Bad CPU logic? with that settings on MANUAL you can score 80pt with a player without any double or help defense from the CPU :-/

I think you misunderstood the words I typed. I'm siding with you. Them saying turning it to auto is bypassing something as if the game is better on manual. I agree with you that is better on auto. Think you misread my post.

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[mauro78]

Re: CPU AI Defensive Plan Fix for DT and Help Defense

I think you misunderstood the words I typed. I'm siding with you. Them saying turning it to auto is bypassing something as if the game is better on manual. I agree with you that is better on auto. Think you misread my post.

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Sorry I was just upset!
My Rant were directed to Czar tweet ^_^

It's ok Bro....

[Thetruth9012]

Re: CPU AI Defensive Plan Fix for DT and Help Defense

Yes we bypassing easy score from post and paint

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[mauro78]

Re: CPU AI Defensive Plan Fix for DT and Help Defense



He finally reply to me much respect to Czar as always...final response is:

Da_Czar @Da_Czar 9 min9 minuti fa Visualizza traduzione
@MauroAnceschi @backbreaker1965 @Beluba @ScottOGallagher I have no real insight on defense fam.

[32MJ32]

Re: CPU AI Defensive Plan Fix for DT and Help Defense

First, I'd like to thank the OP for discovering this. I did this in another thread but twice is warranted.

Second, I think we're all entitled to how we'd like the game to play. There's no right or wrong way to play basketball. That's why of the 30 coaches in the league, there are 30 slightly different styles. It comes down to your preference.

IMHO, I find the out-of-the-box settings geared more towards an individual style of game. If you are nice on the sticks and can beat your guy: basket. As such, I've moved the Help Strength slider all the way to 100 - for both teams - and cranked the Defensive Awareness up for the CPU. This suits the way I like to play offense and defense. One pass or a nice crossover is usually not enough to get a basket.

The OP's suggestion to move the DT'ing to AUTO furthers my goal to have the CPU play team defense. Does this result in more wide open shots? Yes. But with some very simple slider adjustments, you can equal this out. What I am seeing now is the AI rotating off poor shooters to take away bigger threats. And with shot making tuned down, a guy like Rondo can have a wiiiidddeee open 3 and make 3 or 4 outta 10, at most.

This seems realistic, to me, but perception is reality.

tl:dr: Get the game playing how you want it to play.

[mauro78]

Re: CPU AI Defensive Plan Fix for DT and Help Defense

First, I'd like to thank the OP for discovering this. I did this in another thread but twice is warranted.

Second, I think we're all entitled to how we'd like the game to play. There's no right or wrong way to play basketball. That's why of the 30 coaches in the league, there are 30 slightly different styles. It comes down to your preference.

IMHO, I find the out-of-the-box settings geared more towards an individual style of game. If you are nice on the sticks and can beat your guy: basket. As such, I've moved the Help Strength slider all the way to 100 - for both teams - and cranked the Defensive Awareness up for the CPU. This suits the way I like to play offense and defense. One pass or a nice crossover is usually not enough to get a basket.

The OP's suggestion to move the DT'ing to AUTO furthers my goal to have the CPU play team defense. Does this result in more wide open shots? Yes. But with some very simple slider adjustments, you can equal this out. What I am seeing now is the AI rotating off poor shooters to take away bigger threats. And with shot making tuned down, a guy like Rondo can have a wiiiidddeee open 3 and make 3 or 4 outta 10, at most.

This seems realistic, to me, but perception is reality.

tl:dr: Get the game playing how you want it to play.

With respect to you but....... with DT in MANUAL you can score 80pt with Melo without any double or help defense.....the point is on MANUAL cpu defense is broken. period.

With DT = AUTO you see doubles and help since the start of the game...I saw Bucks-Knicks last nite Melo was doubled since the beginning....this is how NBA defense is supposed to be

[32MJ32]

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With respect to you but....... with DT in MANUAL you can score 80pt with Melo without any double or help defense.....the point is on MANUAL cpu defense is broken. period.

With DT = AUTO you see doubles and help since the start of the game...I saw Bucks-Knicks last nite Melo was doubled since the beginning....this is how NBA defense is supposed to be

haha friend, please re-read. I am agreeing with you. I change it to AUTO every game now

[SonicMage]

Re: CPU AI Defensive Plan Fix for DT and Help Defense

With respect to you but....... with DT in MANUAL you can score 80pt with Melo without any double or help defense.....the point is on MANUAL cpu defense is broken. period.

With DT = AUTO you see doubles and help since the start of the game...I saw Bucks-Knicks last nite Melo was doubled since the beginning....this is how NBA defense is supposed to be

For some teams, yes. This is really a coach specific preference, some like to double team and some prefer to stay one-on-one. To your example, not every team in the league doubles Melo every game IRL, right?

Wasn't there a slider for this in coach profiles in previous games? I wonder where it went.

[mauro78]

Re: CPU AI Defensive Plan Fix for DT and Help Defense

For some teams, yes. This is really a coach specific preference, some like to double team and some prefer to stay one-on-one. To your example, not every team in the league doubles Melo every game IRL, right?

Wasn't there a slider for this in coach profiles in previous games? I wonder where it went.

Yo can use POE for every coach....

[mauro78]

Re: CPU AI Defensive Plan Fix for DT and Help Defense

For some teams, yes. This is really a coach specific preference, some like to double team and some prefer to stay one-on-one. To your example, not every team in the league doubles Melo every game IRL, right?

Wasn't there a slider for this in coach profiles in previous games? I wonder where it went.

If MELO got hot I think every NBA defense adjust with help and double.....while I agree start of the game it depends...you can use POE to change this aspect

[Smirkin Dirk]

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Im away from my game at the moment.

Are you guys saying we turn CPU playcalling to auto (I think this would have to be changed every game, I dont think its in the coach gameplan screen).

Im not sure what Czar means by we're bypassing something by having them on auto.

[STLRams]

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I'm wondering now what I should set each teams POE at since I didn't even notice all of them were set the same.

[torpidbeaver]

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Yeah, I've asked/tweeted multiple times about the coaches' default PoEs. Never received a response.

Does anyone know if any of the roster/slider people have suggestions as to how each coach should be tweaked?

Has anyone ever heard a response about the PoEs? So weird that the classic & Euro league teams are differentiated, but NBA teams are all the same.