CPU AI Defensive Plan Fix for DT and Help Defense

[mauro78]

Re: CPU AI Defensive Plan Fix for DT and Help Defense

Yeah I'll definitely have to see what it's like after more games.

But yeah that game I just played was a lot like my 2K15 experiences with the Clippers. I'd hit a few threes with CP3, tear apart a defence with his passing, have about 20 points, 10 assists and the CPU would relentlessly double.

It makes sense for a guy like Mudiay or Okafor who aren't equipped to handle a double team yet, but rarely do you see any coaches have their defences constantly doubling the likes of Curry or CP3. They're just way too good for that. They might mix it up and throw the occasional double.

But this was literally almost like playing on rookie for a quarter.

Always based on my experience once Melo got hot CPU D was like:

• 50% DT
• 30% Help Defense
• 20% Man to Man Guarded (based on the CPU defender)

And I like it! I mean 80% of the time It was clever to pass out the ball.....

[torpidbeaver]

Re: CPU AI Defensive Plan Fix for DT and Help Defense

Has anyone ever seen the CPU use zone defense?

[Luke Skywalker]

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Having a blast now with my custom sliders, thanks so much for this find.

[8KB24]

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Do you also set Prerotate for CPU on YES(ALL) or NO(ALL)?

[STLRams]

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Do you also set Prerotate for CPU on YES(ALL) or NO(ALL)?

I was wondering about this also? Im not even sure what that setting does.

[mauro78]

Re: CPU AI Defensive Plan Fix for DT and Help Defense

I was wondering about this also? Im not even sure what that setting does.

I left it to AUTO

[Whomario]

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I left it to AUTO

There is no Auto on that setting, only YES/NO unfortunately. Which makes very little sense ...

[Permatron]

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So I made the suggested adjustments and saw a big change in d from the CPU. I played OKC v HOU(me). I saw a lot of different looks when it came to the CPU guarding Harden. They would send the double every once in awhile until the last 5 minutes of the 4th when the doubled him non stop. This was a great find!

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[32MJ32]

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There is no Auto on that setting, only YES/NO unfortunately. Which makes very little sense ...

This will tell the defense to send a 3rd guy over to cut off the rolling big on the pick and roll.

Advantages: harder to hit the roll man
Disadvantages: someone will be left open, usually a standstill jumpshooter

Setting it to YES means everytime a P&R happens, the 3rd guy comes over. NO, it will never happen.

There's a 3rd option, too - you can set it to YES or NO on an indvidual player. For instance, if you are playing the Pistons, you may only want to send a 3rd guy for Drummond P&R's, so it to YES on him and leave it on NO for everyone else.

If you are setting up your AI's opponent D, I suggest considering if it's in their best interests to pre-rotate or not. Do you have any great P&R bigs? Do you lack outside shooting? Then set it to YES on your best P&R big or YES for all.

If you have a ton of knockdown shooting and no great catch and dunk bigs, leave it to NO. For example, there's no way I'd pre-rotate on anyone against the Warriors. You'd be sending a 3rd guy at Bogut/Ezeli and leaving one of Barnes, Klay, Green or even Curry in a ton of space.

[JoFri]

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I fixed this and was playing pretty well with Curry but mainly killing the Clippers with his passing ability, yet in the 3rd they started doubling me basically once I got over half court and I ended up torching them right up until the clutch with passes to Klay, Harrison Barnes, Iggy etc.

I thought they said the CPU was going to be smarter?

yez played the bears(cpu). i usually changed to auto in the defensive settings for each team i played. this time round, i set ai coach settings, offense and defense to auto in the coach settings. afterwhich, switched back to my okc.

they doubled kd everytime he crossed half court. they doubled russell at the post. most of the time, they left adams alone even if he's in the paint area to double.

kd was one rebound shy of a triple double.

not really a smart move as i would expect cpu to have the defender on roberson to double kd/russell.




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[RyanFitzmagic]

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This will tell the defense to send a 3rd guy over to cut off the rolling big on the pick and roll.

Advantages: harder to hit the roll man
Disadvantages: someone will be left open, usually a standstill jumpshooter

Setting it to YES means everytime a P&R happens, the 3rd guy comes over. NO, it will never happen.

There's a 3rd option, too - you can set it to YES or NO on an indvidual player. For instance, if you are playing the Pistons, you may only want to send a 3rd guy for Drummond P&R's, so it to YES on him and leave it on NO for everyone else.

If you are setting up your AI's opponent D, I suggest considering if it's in their best interests to pre-rotate or not. Do you have any great P&R bigs? Do you lack outside shooting? Then set it to YES on your best P&R big or YES for all.

If you have a ton of knockdown shooting and no great catch and dunk bigs, leave it to NO. For example, there's no way I'd pre-rotate on anyone against the Warriors. You'd be sending a 3rd guy at Bogut/Ezeli and leaving one of Barnes, Klay, Green or even Curry in a ton of space.

No, no, no, no, no. That's not how professional basketball works. Giving up an open three to ANYONE is always better than giving up an open shot at the rim. Any idiot can make a wide open dunk, but even Steph Curry will miss wide-open threes now and then.

[lisinas]

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I didnt get the part about cpu POE, are you suggesting to set all teams to protect the paint in POE ?

[Impetuous65]

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Do you also set Prerotate for CPU on YES(ALL) or NO(ALL)?

From the blog Pre-rotate is used for pick and roll situations for dive guys like Howard and Jordan. If there is more to it Scott didn't go in to it, just that particular situations.

[mauro78]

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I'm on PC and Patch#3 Is not out yet..can someone report if something in this area has been changed in patch#3?

https://www.facebook.com/notes/nba-2k/nba-2k16-patch-update-v3-notes/10153182176112267

- Tweaks to errant pass frequency when passing out of double teams and contact shots.
- Improvements to double team logic.
- Improvements to help defense and rotation logic.

[Whomario]

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I'm on PC and Patch#3 Is not out yet..can someone report if something in this area has been changed in patch#3?

https://www.facebook.com/notes/nba-2k/nba-2k16-patch-update-v3-notes/10153182176112267

- Tweaks to errant pass frequency when passing out of double teams and contact shots.
- Improvements to double team logic.
- Improvements to help defense and rotation logic.

seems ominous ... Or "improvements to double team logic" is their way of sugar coating "fixed non-existant double teaming by the cpu". Would not mind if they toned down the DTs a bit once active on top of that, but for mycareer the important thing would be to have it activated at all.