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  • TarHeelPhenom
    All Star
    • Jul 2002
    • 7116

    #91
    Re: CPU AI Defensive Plan Fix for DT and Help Defense

    Disregard, just checked a different game and Double's were manual. Sorry about that!
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    • bcruise
      Hall Of Fame
      • Mar 2004
      • 23274

      #92
      Re: CPU AI Defensive Plan Fix for DT and Help Defense

      Still no good here, and I CAN confirm that I received an in-game update tonight (not a patch, I'm assuming it's just rosters). Every time I start a Play Now game with the official roster, be it User vs CPU or CPU vs CPU, the setting is always Manual on the two double team options. Further, using the restart/rematch function resets the setting back to manual as well, even after I change it to auto myself.

      I don't know what's going on here....

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      • bcruise
        Hall Of Fame
        • Mar 2004
        • 23274

        #93
        Re: CPU AI Defensive Plan Fix for DT and Help Defense

        Originally posted by TarHeelPhenom
        Disregard, just checked a different game and Double's were manual. Sorry about that!
        So....maybe it's certain individual teams being set to auto then? What teams were you using when you first saw this?

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        • sirjam
          MVP
          • Oct 2002
          • 3535

          #94
          Re: CPU AI Defensive Plan Fix for DT and Help Defense

          Golden state is set to manual if we are starting a checklist

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          • STLRams
            MVP
            • Aug 2005
            • 2847

            #95
            Re: CPU AI Defensive Plan Fix for DT and Help Defense

            Originally posted by TarHeelPhenom
            I have the PC version and can confirm that they are now set to auto. Now i will say that again im doing cpu vs cpu. I dont know if that matters. Im also still watching to see any difference.
            So I'm guessing this change was only on the PC, not the PS4 or XBOX1? I hope 2K corrects this pretty soon, gets annoying having to pause every quick game to go in and change settings for the user and cpu. Its a shame because changing this and changing CPU playcalling to AUTO has improved the gameplay in my opinion.

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            • roadman
              *ll St*r
              • Aug 2003
              • 26339

              #96
              Re: CPU AI Defensive Plan Fix for DT and Help Defense

              Originally posted by STLRams
              So I'm guessing this change was only on the PC, not the PS4 or XBOX1? I hope 2K corrects this pretty soon, gets annoying having to pause every quick game to go in and change settings for the user and cpu. Its a shame because changing this and changing CPU playcalling to AUTO has improved the gameplay in my opinion.
              Post #91:

              Disregard, just checked a different game and Double's were manual. Sorry about that!

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              • redux1000
                Banned
                • Aug 2015
                • 209

                #97
                Re: CPU AI Defensive Plan Fix for DT and Help Defense

                I am pretty certain that changing the CPU offense play calling to auto does not affect anything at all. I've experimented a lot with it back and forth. The double team fix has been huge tho. Pretty much saved the game for me


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                • sirjam
                  MVP
                  • Oct 2002
                  • 3535

                  #98
                  Re: CPU AI Defensive Plan Fix for DT and Help Defense

                  Originally posted by redux1000
                  I am pretty certain that changing the CPU offense play calling to auto does not affect anything at all. I've experimented a lot with it back and forth. The double team fix has been huge tho. Pretty much saved the game for me


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                  I think the easiest way to test it is to play vs Spurs. Their offense should be the easiest to recognize. Jus a thought

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                  • mauro78
                    Ion6 Studios
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 616

                    #99
                    Re: CPU AI Defensive Plan Fix for DT and Help Defense

                    Originally posted by sirjam
                    I think the easiest way to test it is to play vs Spurs. Their offense should be the easiest to recognize. Jus a thought
                    I usually keep both on AUTO...I will test them during the weekend and report....
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                    • KGDunks
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                      • Dec 2010
                      • 524

                      #100
                      Re: CPU AI Defensive Plan Fix for DT and Help Defense

                      I fixed this and was playing pretty well with Curry but mainly killing the Clippers with his passing ability, yet in the 3rd they started doubling me basically once I got over half court and I ended up torching them right up until the clutch with passes to Klay, Harrison Barnes, Iggy etc.

                      I thought they said the CPU was going to be smarter?

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                      • Smirkin Dirk
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                        • Oct 2008
                        • 5174

                        #101
                        Re: CPU AI Defensive Plan Fix for DT and Help Defense

                        Originally posted by KGDunks
                        I fixed this and was playing pretty well with Curry but mainly killing the Clippers with his passing ability, yet in the 3rd they started doubling me basically once I got over half court and I ended up torching them right up until the clutch with passes to Klay, Harrison Barnes, Iggy etc.

                        I thought they said the CPU was going to be smarter?
                        i don't want to sound rude, but that's Warriors basketball. Do it with Philly.
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                        • KGDunks
                          Banned
                          • Dec 2010
                          • 524

                          #102
                          Re: CPU AI Defensive Plan Fix for DT and Help Defense

                          Originally posted by Hot Kidd
                          i don't want to sound rude, but that's Warriors basketball. Do it with Philly.
                          I know that but it was absurd. Sadly I didn't record the game or anything, but it was literally DeAndre or Blake totally abandoning their man and doubling. Not a lot of rotation from the other defenders either. I got off at least ten passes straight into Bogut for a dunk.

                          In real life they wouldn't just gift baskets like that.

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                          • Insight23
                            MVP
                            • Aug 2010
                            • 1585

                            #103
                            Re: CPU AI Defensive Plan Fix for DT and Help Defense

                            I think the auto double team works best with good sliders or playing on superstar/sim. Just from my experience with it. Without sliders on all star the defense gives up way too many open shots. To any team not just the Warriors but with some sliders I grabbed here on OS the defense is great!! Almost too great haha but I like the challenge. Same for superstar/sim. I hate that I can't play MyGM tho, I've had my experience with it so I might just do MyGM & hope it gets patched soon. That or do a short myleague season


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                            • mauro78
                              Ion6 Studios
                              • Jan 2006
                              • 616

                              #104
                              Re: CPU AI Defensive Plan Fix for DT and Help Defense

                              Originally posted by KGDunks
                              I fixed this and was playing pretty well with Curry but mainly killing the Clippers with his passing ability, yet in the 3rd they started doubling me basically once I got over half court and I ended up torching them right up until the clutch with passes to Klay, Harrison Barnes, Iggy etc.

                              I thought they said the CPU was going to be smarter?
                              From my experience it really depends from game to game....I had some games CPU was terrific in shutting me down some other don't....some games I won some games I lost becouse CPU was smart....
                              In general Teams which are great @ defense IRL are pretty hard to beat IF they start to double you....last night I was Cle vs Phila....Phila did try to double or help on Lebron......but no results.....

                              Overall I love Double = AUTO experience

                              And I prefer them to double me all day long...than having a game without any double on my star player (Double = MANUAL)
                              Last edited by mauro78; 11-12-2015, 11:33 AM.
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                              • KGDunks
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                                • Dec 2010
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                                #105
                                Re: CPU AI Defensive Plan Fix for DT and Help Defense

                                Originally posted by mauro78
                                From my experience it really depends from game to game....I had some games CPU was terrific in shutting me down some other don't....some games I won some games I lost becouse CPU was smart....

                                Overall I love Double = AUTO experience


                                And I prefer them to double me all day long...than having a game without any double on my star player (Double = MANUAL)
                                Yeah I'll definitely have to see what it's like after more games.

                                But yeah that game I just played was a lot like my 2K15 experiences with the Clippers. I'd hit a few threes with CP3, tear apart a defence with his passing, have about 20 points, 10 assists and the CPU would relentlessly double.

                                It makes sense for a guy like Mudiay or Okafor who aren't equipped to handle a double team yet, but rarely do you see any coaches have their defences constantly doubling the likes of Curry or CP3. They're just way too good for that. They might mix it up and throw the occasional double.

                                But this was literally almost like playing on rookie for a quarter.

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