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  • ataman5
    MVP
    • Jun 2007
    • 2620

    #151
    Re: CPU AI Defensive Plan Fix for DT and Help Defense

    Originally posted by jsou4646
    Have you guys seen issues with cpu defenders ignoring who there supposed to cover after patch 3. I like most of what patch 3 brought, but since the patch I'm seeing tons of defenders having no awareness of where the offense player is, or just leaving the offensive player to stand at distance from him. I was playing tweaked hof sliders, but tried stock superstar sliders and saw the same thing. I know it wasn't there pre patch. For example the CPU center is back in plenty of time, my center is coming down the court, instead of meeting him at the free throw line or there about he runs underneath the rim and stands there. I've seen it with other defenders as well. They just lose the offensive player or forget who to cover. It's odd. I don't mind it rarely, but it's way to common during the game. On a positive note the overall defensive rotation is a lot better as well as the the pick and roll defense. Not perfect, but better.

    Bigs going deep to baseline leaving offense for no good reason, that's happening a lot after the patch, it's definitely an issue!


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    • Whomario
      Pro
      • Oct 2010
      • 515

      #152
      Re: CPU AI Defensive Plan Fix for DT and Help Defense

      Am i crazy or do we have the exact same problem after the patch ? Again i am seeing double teams only in Pick and Roll situations and some very soft doubles in the post. Still set to "manual" for the cpu as well.

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      • edubbs
        MVP
        • Aug 2002
        • 2099

        #153
        Re: CPU AI Defensive Plan Fix for DT and Help Defense

        Originally posted by Whomario
        Am i crazy or do we have the exact same problem after the patch ? Again i am seeing double teams only in Pick and Roll situations and some very soft doubles in the post. Still set to "manual" for the cpu as well.


        Yeah I'm noticing the same thing. Mauro's fix is the way to go IMO, even post patch 3.

        I get much better double team logic in the post, by setting the CPU and my team to AUTO before games.

        With Mauro's find, you get random digs, hard doubles, random doubles, double teams of hot players, doubles on mismatches etc....Set to Manual post patch, i'm not seeing this same double team logic as it relates to post play.

        I'm gonna use AUTO for both USER and CPU whenever I start a Myleague Season. I just wish i didn't have to set this before every game. 2K Should have these settings set to AUTO by defualt imo.

        Again thanks to Mauro, this was a huge find.

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        • Reggie548
          Banned
          • Jul 2008
          • 231

          #154
          Re: CPU AI Defensive Plan Fix for DT and Help Defense

          Originally posted by edubbs
          Yeah I'm noticing the same thing. Mauro's fix is the way to go IMO, even post patch 3.

          I get much better double team logic in the post, by setting the CPU and my team to AUTO before games.

          With Mauro's find, you get random digs, hard doubles, random doubles, double teams of hot players, doubles on mismatches etc....Set to Manual post patch, i'm not seeing this same double team logic as it relates to post play.

          I'm gonna use AUTO for both USER and CPU whenever I start a Myleague Season. I just wish i didn't have to set this before every game. 2K Should have these settings set to AUTO by defualt imo.

          Again thanks to Mauro, this was a huge find.
          What is Mauro fix?

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          • STLRams
            MVP
            • Aug 2005
            • 2847

            #155
            Re: CPU AI Defensive Plan Fix for DT and Help Defense

            I'm on PS4 and I've noticed lately the CPU not sending help and double teams as much anymore. Even with it set to manual and with Patch3 I was seeing them, but now lately I haven't been seeing it anymore. I wish there was a way to just set this to auto and keep that way by default instead having to pause the game and switch over to the CPU side and mess with coach options to get this to work.

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            • Smirkin Dirk
              All Star
              • Oct 2008
              • 5174

              #156
              Re: CPU AI Defensive Plan Fix for DT and Help Defense

              You can change it to auto globally if you control all teams in your MyLeague.
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              • edubbs
                MVP
                • Aug 2002
                • 2099

                #157
                Re: CPU AI Defensive Plan Fix for DT and Help Defense

                ^^^^^^^^^

                Thanks, that's nice to know.

                A way to make this change globally during season mode is all I really needed. I always control every team anyway, just so I can mirror the rosters IRL as player moves change in the NBA throughout the season.

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                • STLRams
                  MVP
                  • Aug 2005
                  • 2847

                  #158
                  Re: CPU AI Defensive Plan Fix for DT and Help Defense

                  Originally posted by Hot Kidd
                  You can change it to auto globally if you control all teams in your MyLeague.
                  Yeah I noticed that this is possible. I was talking in regards to quick games/NBA Today games. I wish 2K had this on auto by default for these games.

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                  • sirjam
                    MVP
                    • Oct 2002
                    • 3535

                    #159
                    Re: CPU AI Defensive Plan Fix for DT and Help Defense

                    Maybe it's a ps4 thing bc I'm in a classic season with 95 bulls. And they are sending all kinds of different doubles and looks on default

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                    • wepr3
                      Pro
                      • Feb 2005
                      • 584

                      #160
                      Re: CPU AI Defensive Plan Fix for DT and Help Defense

                      Originally posted by Hot Kidd
                      You can change it to auto globally if you control all teams in your MyLeague.
                      HK,

                      Where do I do this? I started a myleague to test it out, but couldn't find where to do it for my team, much less any of the other teams.

                      I'm still having to switch controllers in game to fix.

                      Thank you.
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                      • mauro78
                        Ion6 Studios
                        • Jan 2006
                        • 616

                        #161
                        Re: CPU AI Defensive Plan Fix for DT and Help Defense

                        Originally posted by Reggie548
                        What is Mauro fix?
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                        • mauro78
                          Ion6 Studios
                          • Jan 2006
                          • 616

                          #162
                          Re: CPU AI Defensive Plan Fix for DT and Help Defense

                          Originally posted by senhorxxx
                          What are your considerations after the patch 3 on PC ??


                          And congratulations on the initial post.
                          I have to say I see doubles even hard doubles after patch 3.....I played some games and I like it @ default (MANUAL).....

                          But I'm gonna play some games patch 3 + doubles set to AUTO to see how the game feel....I had some terrific game with patch 2 + AUTO
                          Last edited by mauro78; 12-08-2015, 06:20 AM.
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                          • JoFri
                            Pro
                            • Mar 2013
                            • 1486

                            #163
                            Re: CPU AI Defensive Plan Fix for DT and Help Defense

                            i've been playing offline myleague. different teams adopt different defense strategies. some deploy double on catch(that was like after i scored 6 straight pts with KD). some doubled when at the post.

                            it really depends on the teams.

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                            • bo_jax2000
                              MVP
                              • Nov 2007
                              • 1158

                              #164
                              Re: CPU AI Defensive Plan Fix for DT and Help Defense

                              Originally posted by JoFri
                              i've been playing offline myleague. different teams adopt different defense strategies. some deploy double on catch(that was like after i scored 6 straight pts with KD). some doubled when at the post.

                              it really depends on the teams.

                              That was mentioned in the blog.

                              http://www.operationsports.com/featu...tt-ogallagher/.


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                              • JoFri
                                Pro
                                • Mar 2013
                                • 1486

                                #165
                                Re: CPU AI Defensive Plan Fix for DT and Help Defense

                                Originally posted by bo_jax2000
                                That was mentioned in the blog.

                                http://www.operationsports.com/featu...tt-ogallagher/.


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                                yap aware of that. was sharing my gameplay experience so that the community know double teams works and works differently for different teams in post patch. pre-patch, double teams were almost close to none.

                                here's the extract from the post:

                                NEW - TEAM-SPECIFIC DEFENSES – All 30 NBA Coaches will have their own adaptability and defensive coaching philosophies in NBA 2K16.

                                Like mentioned above, these coaches will now adapt to players differently depending on
                                Exhibition
                                Season
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                                Player type
                                Behavior
                                Efficiency
                                And more

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