Stephen Curry in NBA 2K

[Kully]

Re: Stephen Curry in NBA 2K

Curry takes the worst shots I've ever seen an NBA player consistently take. As Mike said, they are trying to teach 2K players to make the right basketball play, and here comes the antithesis freak that is Curry to undermine all of that.

Maybe, as others have said, Curry needs to be programmed differently from other players, I don't know. Glad I don't have to make these decisions lol.

[A6_Foul_Out]

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Curry takes the worst shots I've ever seen an NBA player consistently take. As Mike said, they are trying to teach 2K players to make the right basketball play, and here comes the antithesis freak that is Curry to undermine all of that.

Maybe, as others have said, Curry needs to be programmed differently from other players, I don't know. Glad I don't have to make these decisions lol.

Then so do Arron Brooks, JR Smith, Nikola Mirotic... players that play differently and take these kinds of shots.

[Kully]

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Then so do Arron Brooks, JR Smith, Nikola Mirotic... players that play differently and take these kinds of shots.

Those guys don't take and hit them at the frequency of Steph. That's why he is such an outlier and why 2K have such a problem emulating him in game.

[RyanFitzmagic]

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What an unfortunate comment to make the same day that this article gets published: Steph Curry Is So Good, NBA 2K Can't Depict Him

There's a highlight within from last night's game with Curry doing just that, shooting a 30+ footer over a contested double-team.

Where do you see that? The three he hit that was Golden State's first basket was 26 feet at the VERY most.

I'm sure he wouldn't be able to do that every time, but you can't deny the credibility of a shot like that from him, seeing what he's actually capable of.

I sure can. Curry has redefined what's considered an acceptable shot from a strategic standpoint, but a line still has to be drawn. At no point ever will any coach say he's okay with a shot from 30 feet over two defenders. Never. No NBA player will take that shot unless he absolutely has to (i.e., shot/game clock is about to expire).

You'd be hard-pressed to find 30-footers being shot over ONE defender. Two? No way.

Those guys don't take and hit them at the frequency of Steph. That's why he is such an outlier and why 2K have such a problem emulating him in game.

Stephen Curry isn't the first player who takes absurdly difficult threes. He's just the best of all time at making them, and he takes MORE than anyone ever, but guys like Gilbert Arenas, Tracy McGrady, Vince Carter, Kobe Bryant, Jamal Crawford, Baron Davis, etc. used to take tons of threes off the dribble and even sometimes off crossovers like Curry does.

This type of shot selection should have already been in the game before Curry. He needs to do it with more regularity than anyone ever has, yes, but the idea of taking a leaning/drifting/contested three-pointer off the dribble, or shooting from 30 feet in a half-court set, is nothing new.

[Hooperport]

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The only thing that worries me is the idea of that leaking into myplayer. It's not that I don't want guys to live out their curry fantasy, but If they screw up I can see the cheeseballs already

More the reason why online/offline absolutely needs to be separated. The online community will figure out what's the optimal configuration/team composition within a millisecond anyway, regardless of caps or nerfs, so why limit offline players' ability to roleplay?

When people buy a game to play offline career and just have fun, it's understandable that more than a few would like the ceiling to be at Stephen Curry or Anthony Davis level, not Goran Dragic or Jabari Parker (no offense to either).

[Kully]

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Stephen Curry isn't the first player who takes absurdly difficult threes. He's just the best of all time at making them, and he takes MORE than anyone ever, but guys like Gilbert Arenas, Tracy McGrady, Vince Carter, Kobe Bryant, Jamal Crawford, Baron Davis, etc. used to take tons of threes off the dribble and even sometimes off crossovers like Curry does.

That's exactly what I said in my two posts, so we are arguing the same thing.

I know players have done it before, but as I stated (and you repeated) no one has ever taken them and hit them at the rate that Steph Curry does which makes him an outlier.

[jeebs9]

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I think we all want the same thing here. It's like what I wanted with AD last year. His speed and handling needed to go up. Because I couldn't get him to even remotely play like himself on offense (besides alley oops).

We want Curry to be able to hit those long shots that he does on the move. But we need to give our opponent some sort of option to stop him. Check and Balance. This is why I was really happy with the return of the under the basket pump fake foul this year. Because now on defense you can just stand there with your hands up. And watch your opponent go into a pump fake coma (You can even strip him if you time it right). And like he said in the article... You don't want someone just isoing and shooting from really far. I would never play again Curry if that was the case. I think most wouldn't.

[8KB24]

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My dumb self thinks that they could fix this with a single tendency - deep threes. It would put unlimited range badge to use. Curry would have that 99 while most other players would have it very, very low.

[Rockie_Fresh88]

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Curry isn't the first player 2k hasn't gotten right . It took forever for 2k to get prime Kobe right . His leaners, faders , "deadeye shots" .only recently were fixed . Prime Wade I have never felt like was right. His ability to get through small holes in the defense and finish at the basket in 2k games left a lot to be desired. It took forever for them to correct get Shaqs power down . Hell even those off balance shots by Dirk were missing for years.

Curry is definitely getting there in 2k. People just gotta learn his release , really play Golden State offense , and actually remember that he'll attack the basket and pass every now and again .

[Caelumfang]

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Steph Curry was replicated perfectly in 2k. It was called 'patch 4' in 2k15. We know how that turned out.

[ViolenceFight]

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Steph Curry was replicated perfectly in 2k. It was called 'patch 4' in 2k15. We know how that turned out.

This is the main fear, really. Aside from PNO always being warriors v. Warriors.

Maybe you make special badges. Like a "Curry" badge, or a "Lebron" badge that only those players have. That would allow them transcendent stats in certain areas, but not kill the MyPlayer modes by allowing MyPlayers to access it.

Build a way for admins to filter park/pro am users by badges, and have it ban anyone with the Special player badges. That way even if they figure out that they need to reset 4 servers, stand on their head plugging the ether net cable in backwards to get a "God" player they get banned.

That way you can have your Curry playstyle with Curry, but only Steph can fully use it. Then you eliminate the fear of it breaking another game mode with a simple filter/ban tool.

[jeebs9]

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^^^ I think that's everyone's fear ^^^

Curry isn't the first player 2k hasn't gotten right . It took forever for 2k to get prime Kobe right . His leaners, faders , "deadeye shots" .only recently were fixed . Prime Wade I have never felt like was right. His ability to get through small holes in the defense and finish at the basket in 2k games left a lot to be desired. It took forever for them to correct get Shaqs power down . Hell even those off balance shots by Dirk were missing for years.

Curry is definitely getting there in 2k. People just gotta learn his release , really play Golden State offense , and actually remember that he'll attack the basket and pass every now and again .

I remember the Kobe and Dirk situation. That's when they came out with a rating called SIT if anyone remembers (SHOOT In Traffic). It worked in the paint and on jumpers. Curry just a little different from those situations. Basically how do you code? "Open shot from 30 feet = go in" When this game says that's a bad shot. Lets not even get into contested shots. That's a even more deeper rabbit hole.

Has anyone tried putting Curry's consistency rating to 99. Does that change anything?

With all this said I'm still hitting shots like these....

https://youtu.be/NSUTcdWSDW0?t=35s

[8KB24]

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With all this said I'm still hitting shots like these....
https://youtu.be/NSUTcdWSDW0?t=35s

These shots are a regular thing on my LAL myleague. Nick Young can pullup from 30ft and hit them at 30-ish % which is fine for him. Kobe can hit 2-3 threes with a hand in his face even with 67 standing 3pt but will also brick them open ones.

I guess sliders help out a ton with these types of shots.

I should try Curry in a game with sliders i'm using.

[RyanFitzmagic]

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Curry just a little different from those situations. Basically how do you code? "Open shot from 30 feet = go in" When this game says that's a bad shot. Lets not even get into contested shots. That's a even more deeper rabbit hole.

Has anyone tried putting Curry's consistency rating to 99. Does that change anything?

I don't see what the issue is. Curry should have a 99 in 3PT and Moving 3PT. 99 wouldn't be the highest by far of all time for 3PT rating, but it definitely would be for Moving 3PT. That, combined with his badges (Deadeye, Limitless Range, Fade Ace, Shot Creator, etc.) should separate him noticeably from everyone else.

As far as 30 footers going in, that's why badge tiers are so good. Maybe Curry is such an outlier in that context that he should have Gold "Limitless Range" and no one else all-time even has Silver. Or maybe create a level (like Platinum) just for him. Stuff like that. No one in the game should have anything close to his exact combination of high shooting ratings and high-level badges.

[jeebs9]

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I don't see what the issue is. Curry should have a 99 in 3PT and Moving 3PT. 99 wouldn't be the highest by far of all time for 3PT rating, but it definitely would be for Moving 3PT. That, combined with his badges (Deadeye, Limitless Range, Fade Ace, Shot Creator, etc.) should separate him noticeably from everyone else.

As far as 30 footers going in, that's why badge tiers are so good. Maybe Curry is such an outlier in that context that he should have Gold "Limitless Range" and no one else all-time even has Silver. Or maybe create a level (like Platinum) just for him. Stuff like that. No one in the game should have anything close to his exact combination of high shooting ratings and high-level badges.

You might be right. But I don't know if they will be giving out personal badges. I remember them doing that for LeBron one year. Might have been in 14. I just think people just want him to be able to off the dribble 3's more.