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  • ruxpinke
    Pro
    • Apr 2008
    • 908

    #46
    Re: what happened to dribbling?

    Originally posted by Insight23
    I'm using R2 & pulling the right trigger back (away from the defender).
    thanks, one more question, kind of how chaining works, do you wait for the half spin to play out before triggering the stepback? Or do you enter the half spin and then immediately enter the input for the stepback and they play out in succession. Im struggling to put moves together. I can do the moves seperately, but i always seems like I'll do one move, stop. pause, then the second. by that time the defender even if fooled initially is back on up me. hope that makes sense to read.
    PSN: PrettyToney

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    • ViolenceFight
      MVP
      • Jun 2013
      • 1141

      #47
      Re: what happened to dribbling?

      Originally posted by Insight23
      I'm using R2 & pulling the

      right trigger back (away from the defender).
      My new Park goto is Kyrie Between the Legs->Behind the back (Animation turns into the Kyrie Hesitation Behind the back Snatch back from the uncle drew vids)->Behind the back->RS back/LS forward (Behind the back launch).

      The Cross/Snatch back creates space, The second BTB creates angle, the launch catches them adjusting to the angle.

      So much stuff to do
      Female Russell Westbrook.

      PSN: ViolenceFight
      Instagram: @ViolenceFight

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      • Insight23
        MVP
        • Aug 2010
        • 1585

        #48
        Re: what happened to dribbling?

        Originally posted by ruxpinke
        thanks, one more question, kind of how chaining works, do you wait for the half spin to play out before triggering the stepback? Or do you enter the half spin and then immediately enter the input for the stepback and they play out in succession. Im struggling to put moves together. I can do the moves seperately, but i always seems like I'll do one move, stop. pause, then the second. by that time the defender even if fooled initially is back on up me. hope that makes sense to read.

        You really gotta play around with it in practice to get the timing right. I would have to say you do it ALMOST immediately. Do it too fast and you might not give the move enough time to play out. If your doing a double behind the back crossover it has to be done immediately. So I suppose it varies from my personal experience.

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        • Insight23
          MVP
          • Aug 2010
          • 1585

          #49
          Re: what happened to dribbling?

          Originally posted by ViolenceFight
          My new Park goto is Kyrie Between the Legs->Behind the back (Animation turns into the Kyrie Hesitation Behind the back Snatch back from the uncle drew vids)->Behind the back->RS back/LS forward (Behind the back launch).



          The Cross/Snatch back creates space, The second BTB creates angle, the launch catches them adjusting to the angle.



          So much stuff to do

          This is so beautiful in motion haha moves like that are as exciting as a dunk to me. Would of been nice to see a video attached to this so people could see.

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          • ruxpinke
            Pro
            • Apr 2008
            • 908

            #50
            Re: what happened to dribbling?

            Originally posted by Insight23
            You really gotta play around with it in practice to get the timing right. I would have to say you do it ALMOST immediately. Do it too fast and you might not give the move enough time to play out. If your doing a double behind the back crossover it has to be done immediately. So I suppose it varies from my personal experience.
            Thanks, Ill hit the lab. Appreciate the answers!
            PSN: PrettyToney

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            • Insight23
              MVP
              • Aug 2010
              • 1585

              #51
              Re: what happened to dribbling?

              Originally posted by ruxpinke
              Thanks, Ill hit the lab. Appreciate the answers!

              No doubt bruh!

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              • daveberg
                MVP
                • Sep 2008
                • 2788

                #52
                Re: what happened to dribbling?

                Originally posted by BA2929
                Classic case of people disliking a new system just because it's new and they're not familiar with it.

                Just work with it and you'll be breaking ankles in no time, trust me. I'm awful on the sticks and can break people down easily this year.


                Here is a tutorial if you're having trouble:

                Spoiler
                Everyone's different but this is not true for me. I'm fine with the sticks, had no problem pulling the moves off, just didn't like the system and players didn't feel that unique. Simply Preferred 2k16. Nothing more than that.
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                NBA 2K Retro Hoops gameplay

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                • jyoung
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 11132

                  #53
                  Re: what happened to dribbling?

                  After doing some more testing, it looks like most of the running dribble combos in the game have backward button commands for some reason this year.

                  If you imagine that your right joystick is a clock, then the commands in 2K17 are:

                  running double crossover = 3, 3 or 9, 9
                  running double between the legs = 7, 7 or 5, 5
                  running between the legs into crossover = 5, 3 or 7, 9

                  This feels completely unnatural and makes no sense when you consider that the stationary combos have the same normal input commands that they did last year:

                  stationary double crossover = 3, 9 or 9, 3
                  stationary double between the legs = 7, 5 or 5, 7
                  stationary between the legs into crossover = = 5, 9 or 7, 3

                  Surely this is a bug and not an intentional change to the game?

                  The button commands feel even more messed up once you get into triple and quadruple dribble moves, because starting with the third dribble in a running combo, the commands stop being backward and become natural again:

                  running quadruple crossover = 9, 9, 3, 9 or 3, 3, 9, 3
                  running quadruple between the legs = 7, 7, 5, 7 or 5, 5, 7, 5

                  Hopefully this can be fixed, because the button inputs should be the same while running as they are while stationary:

                  stationary quadruple crossover = 9, 3, 9, 3 or 3, 9, 3, 9
                  stationary quadruple between the legs = 7, 5, 7, 5 or 5, 7, 5, 7

                  This is all on the 2K camera with the "absolute" joystick controls turned on.
                  Last edited by jyoung; 09-21-2016, 01:47 PM.

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                  • Soze Mucky
                    Rookie
                    • Jul 2016
                    • 202

                    #54
                    Re: what happened to dribbling?

                    everyone says dribble moves in 2k16 were too automatic and didnt take skill, sure they were in a sense you could spam jamal crawford size ups and shoot but it rarely gave you enough space to shoot or go around the defender, you had to do that move and then chain it into other moves to make it effective. i found it a much smoother system personally, which also wasn't as confusing.

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                    • NorthPhillyFis
                      Rookie
                      • Oct 2014
                      • 78

                      #55
                      Re: what happened to dribbling?

                      Dribbling is better than its ever been bro you gotta actually do your moves yourself get them handles right
                      Old Town=King Team-Up=Goat MyLeague=Genius OL=Legend MyTeam=Champ

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                      • Soze Mucky
                        Rookie
                        • Jul 2016
                        • 202

                        #56
                        Re: what happened to dribbling?

                        half spin stepback pretty good. basically just have to hit r2 stick back as soon as you know the half spin has activated it'll initiate the stepback.

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                        • BA2929
                          The Designated Hitter
                          • Jul 2008
                          • 3342

                          #57
                          Re: what happened to dribbling?

                          Originally posted by daveberg
                          Everyone's different but this is not true for me. I'm fine with the sticks, had no problem pulling the moves off, just didn't like the system and players didn't feel that unique. Simply Preferred 2k16. Nothing more than that.
                          That's great, but I wasn't referring to your comments. Just not liking the system (you've already stated you were good on the sticks and just didn't like the controls more than once in this thread) is different than not understanding how it works and hating it because of it, which were the comments I was talking about and why I linked to a tutorial video.

                          Have fun with 2k16 this year.
                          "Baseball is the coolest sport because, at any moment, the catcher can stop the game and go tell the pitcher a secret" - Rob Fee

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                          • domp242
                            Rookie
                            • Sep 2013
                            • 142

                            #58
                            Re: what happened to dribbling?

                            One quick question when changing direction fast is it better to let go of turbo..or keep it held sometimes it still feel like i cant explode to the whole like i want to

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                            • lkasprzak
                              Pro
                              • Nov 2007
                              • 752

                              #59
                              Re: what happened to dribbling?

                              Originally posted by Soze Mucky
                              really confusing how to pull off dribble moves then. now idea how to figure this out. any tips? playing in practice mode isn't gonna help.
                              Just posted that in another thread, but here you go:



                              Thats a good start

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                              • jyoung
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Dec 2006
                                • 11132

                                #60
                                Re: what happened to dribbling?

                                Originally posted by jyoung
                                After doing some more testing, it looks like most of the running dribble combos in the game have backward button commands for some reason this year.

                                If you imagine that your right joystick is a clock, then the commands in 2K17 are:

                                running double crossover = 3, 3 or 9, 9
                                running double between the legs = 7, 7 or 5, 5
                                running between the legs into crossover = 5, 3 or 7, 9

                                This feels completely unnatural and makes no sense when you consider that the stationary combos have the same normal input commands that they did last year:

                                stationary double crossover = 3, 9 or 9, 3
                                stationary double between the legs = 7, 5 or 5, 7
                                stationary between the legs into crossover = = 5, 9 or 7, 3

                                Surely this is a bug and not an intentional change to the game?

                                The button commands feel even more messed up once you get into triple and quadruple dribble moves, because starting with the third dribble in a running combo, the commands stop being backward and become natural again:

                                running quadruple crossover = 9, 9, 3, 9 or 3, 3, 9, 3
                                running quadruple between the legs = 7, 7, 5, 7 or 5, 5, 7, 5

                                Hopefully this can be fixed, because the button inputs should be the same while running as they are while stationary:

                                stationary quadruple crossover = 9, 3, 9, 3 or 3, 9, 3, 9
                                stationary quadruple between the legs = 7, 5, 7, 5 or 5, 7, 5, 7

                                This is all on the 2K camera with the "absolute" joystick controls turned on.
                                Bumping this thread until this issue is fixed.

                                I was hoping that it would have been resolved in patch 1.03 but it's still there after last night's update.

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