For those still saying sharpshooters are not op....

[BluFu]

Re: For those still saying sharpshooters are not op....

They're the 'best' because people refuse to make LDDs, and or they're not pressing these guys as soon as they cross the half court line. And if they're using screens, switch. And 74 defense doesn't help, either. Neither does the fact that greens are easy to get right now.

This is pointless. jyoung already said everything that needs to be said. Enjoy your Sharpshooter..

[x_NBA_x]

Re: For those still saying sharpshooters are not op....

I'll copy and paste what I said in the other thread..

The things I would adjust to combat the sharpshooters rather than nerfing them completely (we all know that when 2K nerf things it can swing drastically)..

1) Moving screens need to be implemented as a foul. These are the issues for a lot of the sharpshooters threes.

2) Reduce the effectiveness of their Deep Range Deadeye badge and cut down the percentage of makes when a shot is contested.. Leave the wide open alone with it's percentage because if they are wide open, then that's on you and poor defending.

3) Penalize sharpshooters when they are dribbling and then shooting, remove or make that certain dribble animation be classed as a moving shot and not still reward with a standing shot percentage.

I think with those adjustments it keeps the sharpshooters viable (being wide open and standing) while making the game fairer for others.

[Caelumfang]

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This is pointless. jyoung already said everything that needs to be said. Enjoy your Sharpshooter..

I'm not even worried. The second they add that 'dribble penalty' you're talking about, I'll have my Shot Creator ready and doing literally the exact same things and have the same shooting, except now I'll be able to finish around the rim and be much, much faster.

[PhillyIMBlog.com]

Re: For those still saying sharpshooters are not op....

While we are at it, lets nerf everyone's specialty so that we are all truly useless.


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[BluFu]

Re: For those still saying sharpshooters are not op....

I'm not even worried. The second they add that 'dribble penalty' you're talking about, I'll have my Shot Creator ready and doing literally the exact same things and have the same shooting, except now I'll be able to finish around the rim and be much, much faster.

Sharpshooter
Contested Shot Mid Range: 91
Contested Shot Three: 91 (+ deep range deadeye)

Shot Creator
Contested Shot Mid Range: 79
Contested Shot Three: 70

Same shooting....

[GradyMac]

Re: For those still saying sharpshooters are not op....

While we are at it, lets nerf everyone's specialty so that we are all truly useless.

Let me guess, sharpshooter?

[Caelumfang]

Re: For those still saying sharpshooters are not op....

Sharpshooter
Contested Shot Mid Range: 91
Contested Shot Three: 91

Shot Creator
Contested Shot Mid Range: 79
Contested Shot Three: 70

Same shooting....

The 'dribble penalty' would make it a Shoot off the Dribble shot, boosting it to 91. Try again. And considering I'd have the benefit of my normal jumpshot animation, those shots would be rather easy with a fast dribble animation.

[PhillyIMBlog.com]

Re: For those still saying sharpshooters are not op....

Instead of trying to get better, people would rather complain on a forum. Its like 50 Cent said when he was at the airport, today's generation is ****** up.


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[PhillyIMBlog.com]

For those still saying sharpshooters are not op....

The 'dribble penalty' would make it a Shoot off the Dribble shot, boosting it to 91. Try again. And considering I'd have the benefit of my normal jumpshot animation, those shots would be rather easy with a fast dribble animation.

Too many scientists, not enough ball players on here bro


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[BluFu]

Re: For those still saying sharpshooters are not op....

Sharpshooter
Contested Shot Mid Range: 91
Contested Shot Three: 91 (+ deep range deadeye)

Shot Creator
Contested Shot Mid Range: 79
Contested Shot Three: 70

The 'dribble penalty' would make it a Shoot off the Dribble shot, boosting it to 91. Try again. And considering I'd have the benefit of my normal jumpshot animation, those shots would be rather easy with a fast dribble animation.

Not sure why you're changing words in your head. I said contested. Contested shot.... as in hand in your face.... contested.... not shot off dribble.... contested.

[jyoung]

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While we are at it, lets nerf everyone's specialty so that we are all truly useless.

Shooting off the dribble isn't supposed to be a specialty of the sharpshooter.

If you rank the shoot off the dribble ratings of every guard archetype, only the lockdown defender has a lower shoot of the dribble rating than the sharpshooter:

shot creator = 25/25 bars
slasher = 16/25 bars
playmaker = 15/25 bars
sharpshooter = 11/25 bars
lockdown defender = 7/25

But there are currently loopholes in the animation system and the way that 2K17 judges your shot type that are allowing people to trick the game into thinking that they're taking a standing shot instead of a shot off the dribble. All I am asking is for Visual Concepts to close those loopholes and make the sharpshooter perform like his ratings indicate he should be performing when shooting off the dribble.

[ViolenceFight]

Re: For those still saying sharpshooters are not op....

Instead of trying to get better, people would rather complain on a forum. Its like 50 Cent said when he was at the airport, today's generation is ****** up.


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If it was strictly a "Get better" thing, then I wouldn't say a word. As of right now you basically need a Lockdown Defender to stop a sharpshooter.

Despite some previous posts trying to act otherwise, you shouldn't have to have one archetype to stop another completely. It's possible to affect the shot and play in your shirt defense, but they drain contested shots from that distance us nuts.

So, please indulge me for a moment, I get in the sharpshooters grill, get a good shot contest (and I don't mean the phrase pops up, I mean the off balance shot animation proving you contested it), and they drain it. This happens say 3 of 5 times. What else do I need to be "better" at? Legitimately answer me because I have had this happen and just write it off as BS and move on because I can compartmentalize, but how do you get better than absolute perfect defense?

Even then, I want these guys to shoot lights out, just not at the rate they are while contested at a distance.


And, Let me throw this out: They are fixing my build, Slasher, tomorrow. The contested lay up glitch tied with relentless finisher. If Slashers are able to go 22/23 on contested lay ups I'll call for a nerf on that too. This isn't a one way street where I just don't want sharpshooters to succeed. If something heavily favors a clash in that respect, it should be re balanced so the integrity of the class remains, but it's not gamebreak8ng.

[Caelumfang]

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Not sure why you're changing words in your head. I said contested. Contested shot.... as in hand in your face.... contested.... not shot off dribble.... contested.

And the Difficult Shots badge renders defenders useless once the space is created and the shot begins, and will always be registered as 'open.' Go check YouTube, and you'll see what I mean.

Trust me, you're going to have the same problems if that happens, just with a different class. But now you'll have a much faster player on your hands who'll be able to create that space much better.

[BluFu]

Re: For those still saying sharpshooters are not op....

And the Difficult Shots badge renders defenders useless once the space is created and the shot begins, and will always be registered as 'open.' Go check YouTube, and you'll see what I mean.

Trust me, you're going to have the same problems if that happens, just with a different class. But now you'll have a much faster player on your hands who'll be able to create that space much better.

Well the shot penalty after dribbling needs to be re-worked universally across 2K, not just with this particular archetype. At least there will only be 1 "OP" archetype on offense if they fix this.

[Clappington]

Re: For those still saying sharpshooters are not op....

Basically what you sharpshooters are telling me I need a LDD to prevent people from taking horrible shots and making them?


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