An Early Look at NBA 2K18 Gameplay Changes

[isdatyt]

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Sounds meh to be honest. Gonna have to see some gameplay footage and more in-depth blogs from the devs but from what I've read I'm pretty disappointed.

And that part about "artificial stupidity" has me really worried. Almost as if we're gonna have the CPU making the same brain-dead mistakes on defense as last year just for the sake of "realism."

I love that realism. You should have to pay for picking a player who sucks on defense the same way you do if your player sucks on offense.

Without this, some players have no weaknesses in game. Steph (to an extent), Dame, CJ, Harden, Kyrie, Lou Will, are all guys who are atrocious on defense. They constantly get out of position, aren't covering their guys, or just getting a "whoever" offense ran on them. 2K does a great job replicating strengths in this game, it's great to see those weaknesses finally making it in.

If you want Harden for the flashy, pot-stirring, ankle-breaking highlight plays, you should have to deal with the times where he's on defense and forgets he's in a game or gives up an easy bucket.

[Thetruth9012]

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I love that realism. You should have to pay for picking a player who sucks on defense the same way you do if your player sucks on offense.

Without this, some players have no weaknesses in game. Steph (to an extent), Dame, CJ, Harden, Kyrie, Lou Will, are all guys who are atrocious on defense. They constantly get out of position, aren't covering their guys, or just getting a "whoever" offense ran on them. 2K does a great job replicating strengths in this game, it's great to see those weaknesses finally making it in.

If you want Harden for the flashy, pot-stirring, ankle-breaking highlight plays, you should have to deal with the times where he's on defense and forgets he's in a game or gives up an easy bucket.

You realise that 99 defender in 2k17 were worst than real life harden on D ??


So yea what you are saying is true but only when they put real help defense logic behind it.

[isdatyt]

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Yea even 99 defenders in 2k17 were super stupid on defense so what it means now?

You realise that 99 defender in 2k17 were worst than real life harden on D ??


So yea what you are saying is true but only when they put real help defense logic behind it.

He specifically stated this is for lesser defenders.

"There is some “artificial stupidity” (unofficial term!) in which lesser defenders may not be as useful in help defense situations. Of course, better defenders will be better helpers."

[Mike Lowe]

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This has me a little excited. Hopefully we feel more in control when handling the ball this year.



Can you elaborate any more on this? It sounds interesting, but I may be misunderstanding what it actually is.

Like speed, agility, etc. At least I think. This was during a chat I was having do I didn't actually see the list myself.

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[Mike Lowe]

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Mixed feelings on that article

On one hand it sounds great that the reviewer liked the feel of the game, but at the same time just how subtle are the changes? Some stuff didn't need a subtle overhaul and could have used a lot of love. I am interested in getting my hands on the game myself to see the extent of the improvements made in the latest cycle.

Also no mention of the on the fly coaching stuff which is a huge sore spot for me and I hope they took another pass at it. I'm not surprised it didn't make the article, it's not exactly exciting to 99% of people playing the game.

One particularly interesting note is the branching animations, which afaik were in the game already.

2k hook me up with a demo man! I gotta play!

Branching continues to overtake being locked into animations.

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[Mike Lowe]

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Not sure how I feel about this. The word "subtle" worries me

I was hoping for some big changes

It also says to not read into that too much

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[Mike Lowe]

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I'll hold out judgement on the gameplay -- sounds good right now, but all it takes is one patch and that goes down the tube.

Crowd atmosphere improvement, however, is welcome.



How were crowd chants? Were they timed right (defense chants on defense, offense chants on offense, no weird random transitions from one or the other if there was a change of possession via turnover)?

Was the crowd still on full blast as you got closer to the end of the game or did they die out?

Chants were at appropriate times. Sounded terrific w headphones.

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[Impetuous65]

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Checking all the previews and no one has mentioned anything about the In-game menus. Are they the same, do they work, what about sub in and out. These menus are at the heart of gameplay and no one even has said a word. We all know the menus were broken and convoluted.

[feral777]

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Tbh I don't know what most of you were expecting. It is obvious that it will be rather 17.5 than real, new 18. Other way they would be already talking about those entirely new features and since there are no significant changes the game will look like a polished version of 2k17. I can already see all of the reviews saying that it is the best NBA 2k game ever, while the user score on metacritic will reach 6 at max. 2k will be back with all of the previous problems like ****ty servers, horrible online lag and stuff we all know. And things won't change in the future until there will be a real competition. But for now we all gonna buy 2k18 when it's out...


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[Mike Lowe]

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One sort of joking feature I told them they need to add is a 2K Share barber shop so people can create their own hair styles to upload

My Twitter questions would be cut in half!

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[Mike Lowe]

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this is somewhat concerning since teammates have been completely useless on defense the last couple years

Was told this has more to do w folks making assumptions. You need better defenders, better gamelan.

Reminds me of NHL 17 HUT where I can shut down the typical All Superstars teams by just having defensive specialists who frustrate everyone until I beat them 2-1.

Also, yes, defenses will rotate more intelligently now.


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[jr86]

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Shot meter above the players head...Hallelujah!!!! Finally i can play with shot timing...

[Mike Lowe]

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Last year...lots of hype. People say the game is BS!

This year, folks read subtle (interpret it incorrectly), less hype, and still say, this game is BS!

I'd looooove to review what you all do at work and Tweet about it

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[juicey79]

Doesn't the soundtrack play after the player of the game, like 2k11-2k13?

[scottyp180]

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Let's be honest: If you're playing 2k18 for the first time, the last thing you're going to be paying attention to is the crowd and atmosphere. You're going to be trying to figure out gameplay tweaks and the like. Plus, 2k might have said: "Don't talk about atmosphere. We're releasing a trailer and blog soon about it."

If you've ever played a video game in a crowded room, even with headphones on, the sound isn't that amazing. I doubt he was using $350 Bose noise canceling headphones in there.

Also: Last year was last year. Just because something was said about 2k17, or 2k16, or 2k15, doesn't mean that's the case with 2k18.

I'm sure 2k did this exact thing with certain features. The point of these events is to get respected people to play the game, get their input, and have them share their impressions. They aren't there to reveal major announcements. If you notice from the impressions so far no one really goes into in depth detail about the changes and improvements. Just a few tid bits and impressions here and there.

It's very possible atmosphere is unchanged or only slightly improved, which honestly wouldn't surprise me, but I'm not going to make assumptions this early. 2k will likely have a blog dedicated to presentation and that should give us an idea of what to expect in the atmosphere side of things.