NBA 2K18 AI Improvements Blog From Scott O’Gallagher

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The only quibble I have is when he mentions not playing a player outside of their primary/secondary roles.

This is a small concern for me because of the move to 'positionless' basketball, and the fact that there are players who can routinely play and guard 3 or more positions, and play at those 3 or so positions.

Obviously I'm holding out to see how it truly affects things, but I do want to take full advantage of players who are able to play and defend multiple positions. I want it to be a factor in deciding to take one player over another.

He does acknowledge that there is a shift to positionless basketball, but then goes on to stick to the old primary/secondary position... there has be a feature to note and promote players who can guard 1-5.

Would be nice to list a player up to all 5 positions if he has the capability to do so. I wonder how complicated this would be to implement

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Every nba player has a primary and secondary position even on NBA.com

He's referring to the penalty hit you take for playing a player outside his primary and secondary positions. He doesn't want it to affect players who can play 3-4 different positions because of an arbitrary limitation in the game. I wish they would add a 3rd position option for the few guys who are that versatile. It would even help with auto rotations in the game.

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He's referring to the penalty hit you take for playing a player outside his primary and secondary positions. He doesn't want it to affect players who can play 3-4 different positions because of an arbitrary limitation in the game. I wish they would add a 3rd position option for the few guys who are that versatile. It would even help with auto rotations in the game.

There is a very, very small number of players in all of history that could effectively guard more than 2 positions. Yeah some players do it out of necessity but that doesn't mean they are good at it.

I'm fine with a badge that would allow for more but I think cracking down on 5-wing lineups in general way outweighs the negatives.

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This was everything I kind of griped about to my boys. Impressed. On to the next scoop...

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There is a very, very small number of players in all of history that could effectively guard more than 2 positions. Yeah some players do it out of necessity but that doesn't mean they are good at it.

I'm fine with a badge that would allow for more but I think cracking down on 5-wing lineups in general way outweighs the negatives.

Having it as an option doesn't hurt. How many players in the game have only 1 position label but still have access to add a 2nd position?

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There is a very, very small number of players in all of history that could effectively guard more than 2 positions. Yeah some players do it out of necessity but that doesn't mean they are good at it.

I'm fine with a badge that would allow for more but I think cracking down on 5-wing lineups in general way outweighs the negatives.

That's an exaggeration lol. Draymond Green and Kawhi Leonard come to mind immediately. Both can effectively guard at least 3 positions.

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That's an exaggeration lol. Draymond Green and Kawhi Leonard come to mind immediately. Both can effectively guard at least 3 positions.

Wow. You named two guys that account for the last 3 defensive player of the year awards.

That's like saying triple doubles aren't impressive, look at how many Magic and Westbrook have...

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Speaking of positions...in 2k17, I had a lineup with Kevin Durant coming off the bench in MyTeam. Durant would get auto-subbed in at power forward quite a bit, when I wanted him in at small forward. It seemed like that depended on who I had as my top power forward on the bench. If they were shorter that Durant (that seemed to be the determining factor), then Durant would come in as the power forward...and my power forward would get put in at small forward.

Is there a way to define which positions a player should only play?

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NBA 2K18 AI Improvements Blog From Scott O’Gallagher

Wow. You named two guys that account for the last 3 defensive player of the year awards.

That's like saying triple doubles aren't impressive, look at how many Magic and Westbrook have...

My point is that there are two examples of current players who can guard multiple positions. So can LeBron. Iguodala. Tony Allen. Klay Thompson and hell even Iman Shumpert can competently guard 1-3. Jae Crowder can guard 2-3 and stretch 4's. Positional fluidity is at an all time high, and a lot of guys can competently guard multiple positions. In the past, I'm quite sure they could as well. But positions were far more rigid, and defensive schemes didn't allow for a ton of switching. I disagree with your claim.

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My point is that there are two examples of current players who can guard multiple positions. So can LeBron. Iguodala. Tony Allen. Klay Thompson and hell even Iman Shumpert can competently guard 1-3. Jae Crowder can guard 2-3 and stretch 4's. Positional fluidity is at an all time high, and a lot of guys can competently guard multiple positions. In the past, I'm quite sure they could as well. But positions were far more rigid, and defensive schemes didn't allow for a ton of switching. I just think your claim is pretty baseless and frankly, silly lol.

Yeah... none of those guys are as effective defending outside their primary and secondary positions. Lebron doesn't even guard his own position anymore.

We're into laughable now territory where just because a guy is playing way outside his position, you assume he can do it well with no decline. It's a joke.

Frankly even Draymond green, with all of his versatility, would be abused defending taller bigs with actual post skills. He gets by today because even the 4/5s are face-up shooters where height is more negated.

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Yeah... none of those guys are as effective defending outside their primary and secondary positions. Lebron doesn't even guard his own position anymore.



We're into laughable now territory where just because a guy is playing way outside his position, you assume he can do it well. It's a joke.

Lol yeah sure.

Nah, what's laughable is you assuming guys can't guard someone because they're outside their position.

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Lol yeah sure.

Nah, what's laughable is you assuming guys can't guard someone because they're outside their position.

Because I have eyes. You should try using yours.

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Because I have eyes. You should try using yours.

Haha. The irony.

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I can't even tell you all how many times i've read this blog, and watched the videos now. I can't wait to see all of this in action.