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  • Impetuous65
    MVP
    • Feb 2015
    • 1451

    #166
    Re: NBA 2K18 Offensive Tendencies, AI Execution & Motion Blog From Da_Czar

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    • Da_Czar
      NBA 2K Gameplay Producer, Offensive AI System - SIM NATION
      • Jul 2002
      • 5408

      #167
      NBA 2K18 Offensive Tendencies, AI Execution & Motion Blog From Da_Czar

      Originally posted by LionsFanNJ
      Awesome stuff Czar, the fastbreak logic and the Reddick breakdown was on point!





      I know you said classic teams won't have flow tech, however, if i pick the 02 Nets and use with them a current team playbook in MyLeague or something, will the Flow Tech then be applied to them?


      Yes since I had to rebuild everthing for the new motion system it was too large of a task to put flow tech everywhere.

      The priority was offscreen plays and flowed down from there. But yes to answer your question current plays have flow tech enabled.

      Also the new classic teams don't have thier own playbooks. They use another teams playbook for this year. Just was not enough time.

      You may notice the play count is down as well. another by product of the sheer amont of time it takes to implement this on a new engine.




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      • Da_Czar
        NBA 2K Gameplay Producer, Offensive AI System - SIM NATION
        • Jul 2002
        • 5408

        #168
        Re: NBA 2K18 Offensive Tendencies, AI Execution & Motion Blog From Da_Czar

        Originally posted by jlaz
        is there also a transition midrange pullup tendency, or do we only have 3pt tendency right now?



        great write up, so many new and exciting things.


        No, If he doesn't pullup at the 3 and he drives he is in our drive behavior, Once in drive behavior we would check the mid-range pullup tendency once he is in that range and that is how we would cover if a player should pull up in mid-range.

        So the midrange pullup tendency is not specific to the transition because once he drives past the 3 he will still check the drive mid range pullup tendency.




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        • Da_Czar
          NBA 2K Gameplay Producer, Offensive AI System - SIM NATION
          • Jul 2002
          • 5408

          #169
          Re: NBA 2K18 Offensive Tendencies, AI Execution & Motion Blog From Da_Czar

          Originally posted by cmebfresh
          Party popper alert!!!



          Patches still worry's me czar


          Can't blame you fam.


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          • bigmike0077
            Rookie
            • Dec 2013
            • 401

            #170
            Re: NBA 2K18 Offensive Tendencies, AI Execution & Motion Blog From Da_Czar

            Originally posted by Da_Czar
            Yes since I had to rebuild everthing for the new motion system it was too large of a task t put flow tech everywhere.

            The priority was offscreen plays and flowed down from there. But yes to answer your question current plays have flow tech enabled.

            Also the new classic teams don't have thier own playbooks. They use another teams playbook for this year. Just was not enough time.

            You may notice the play count is down as well. another by product of the sheer amont of time it takes to implement this on a new engine.




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            so in modes like MYGM or my League , how does this work over the years as teams change players and coaches

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            • Da_Czar
              NBA 2K Gameplay Producer, Offensive AI System - SIM NATION
              • Jul 2002
              • 5408

              #171
              Re: NBA 2K18 Offensive Tendencies, AI Execution & Motion Blog From Da_Czar

              Originally posted by RyanFitzmagic
              The positive by far outweighs the negative in this blog, but one thing that worried me is in the final bonus clip. When Harden kicks out to the open corner three, neither Kings defender makes an effort to close out. This does happen in real life sometimes where a player can get a literally 100% uncontested shot, but it's rare, and in 2K17, it was very common.

              Maybe a dev can shed some light?


              Check the demo Fitz stuff like that is best experienced to know if it is still an issue for you.


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              • Johnnythelegend
                Pro
                • Mar 2010
                • 812

                #172
                Re: NBA 2K18 Offensive Tendencies, AI Execution & Motion Blog From Da_Czar

                Originally posted by Da_Czar
                I saw your initial post but to me it seemed like you were trying to make a statement more than ask a question. LOL.

                And I am not in here to guarantee everyone that all their issues are resolved. That is a bad practice. There are some things in a yearly released video-game some people are not going to like.

                When people really have something up their craw I don't like telling them x has been improved because undoubtedly it is not fixed like they wanted and i think we know how that ends...

                With stuff like that I say get the demo and see if it is where you think it needs to be.

                I work on the AI the foul system is a separate system on which I have no direct influence.


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                Just a question regarding the demo/prelude. You said it's not the final build right? The most complete up to date game we will get to play will be the day one patch on 19th, i think someone said it, could be you. Will all these changes, upgrades from your and OG's blog be included in the demo or we can expect full effect after the day one patch? Thanks in advance

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                • Toaster
                  Rookie
                  • Sep 2002
                  • 382

                  #173
                  Re: NBA 2K18 Offensive Tendencies, AI Execution & Motion Blog From Da_Czar

                  Hi Czar,
                  Quite the write up (Expected no less from you)!
                  Even more appreciated os the amount of information and candidness (is that even a word? LOL) of your answers here.

                  I wanted to ask if there is an individual "walk the ball" tendency beyond team pace. I would ideally expect, for example, williams to bring the ball up slower than rose (not the best example but got a brain freeze) . also if it is tied to fatigue or to the score (e.g. protecting a lead vs. Trying to catch up).
                  Thanks

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                  • 49UNCFan
                    MVP
                    • Aug 2010
                    • 2460

                    #174
                    Re: NBA 2K18 Offensive Tendencies, AI Execution & Motion Blog From Da_Czar

                    All of this is great stuff Czar.
                    One thing I'm really wanting to know on the offensive side is Layups with contact.

                    2k has been notorious for letting a player like 5'7 Isiah T effect a player like LeBron 's shot and body him.

                    Will height and weight finally play a factor this year?

                    This will create another chest match with the awesome system you all created, Having to switch say IT on the pick n roll from Curry to Durant would force the D to change their gameplan.
                    Last edited by 49UNCFan; 08-31-2017, 09:20 AM.
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                    • DBMcGee3
                      MVP
                      • Oct 2011
                      • 1166

                      #175
                      Wow, the info and analytic precision here is staggering, amazing work Czar.  I have one question....are the 1v1 interactions improved to the point where the isolation drive tendencies can be utilized realistically?  It's really been my biggest gripe with the game the past few years, just not feeling like I could really go at mismatched (or just inferior) defenders because they were able to bump me back so easily just by making a little contact.  The same for defending, I've just never found the elite rim drivers in the game to feel as threatening as they should when I'm playing on-ball defense.  Sounds from everything I've heard and read like the "mouse in the house" is a very real thing this year, but I'm hoping that the bigs can be equally punished by trying to guard smaller players on the perimeter.

                      Thanks again, you guys have all but talked me into a purchase the past 2 days.  Spectacular presentation.

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                      • Cowboy008
                        MVP
                        • Mar 2012
                        • 4574

                        #176
                        Re: NBA 2K18 Offensive Tendencies, AI Execution & Motion Blog From Da_Czar

                        Great blog. Can't wait to try the demo next week.

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                        • talucchesi
                          Pro
                          • Nov 2012
                          • 509

                          #177
                          Coming from Fifa and Pes blogs to reading one of these blogs is truly eye-opening. You guys don't realize how lucky and spoiled you all are. 2k is literally LIGHT YEARS ahead of every sports game except maybe The Show
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                          • goma76
                            Rookie
                            • Apr 2017
                            • 311

                            #178
                            Re: NBA 2K18 Offensive Tendencies, AI Execution & Motion Blog From Da_Czar

                            Originally posted by talucchesi
                            Coming from Fifa and Pes blogs to reading one of these blogs is truly eye-opening. You guys don't realize how lucky and spoiled you all are. 2k is literally LIGHT YEARS ahead of every sports game except maybe The Show
                            This is (ONE OF) the reason why NBA2K breaks all records in copies sold throw the entirely sport game panorama.
                            Developers continuously listen the feedback to the community and they give us answer.

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                            • ProfessaPackMan
                              Bamma
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 63852

                              #179
                              Re: NBA 2K18 Offensive Tendencies, AI Execution & Motion Blog From Da_Czar

                              I'm still drooling over Transition and Isolation parts of the Blog.

                              And Flow Tech, in the words of Kevin Hart, "Look look look at this! Look at this! Somebody look at this!"
                              #RespectTheCulture

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                              • TreJayMMA
                                Pro
                                • Jul 2016
                                • 711

                                #180
                                Re: NBA 2K18 Offensive Tendencies, AI Execution & Motion Blog From Da_Czar

                                Originally posted by filipiraten
                                Damn, sad to see Kawhi without his beard. He looked better at the Gamescom Expo..
                                1000% sure this is an earlier build.
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