200,000 VC to upgrade player to 85

[AshamanCarnage]

Re: 200,000 VC to upgrade player to 85

I never said I want to come in as a superstar. Just not a 55 rated player where I'm forced to play something else for quite a long time that I don't want to, in order to level up. I would actually love to play with a team full of 70s to start with. People might play to their archetypes more and stop trying to do everything.

I can't think of any other games where there's some grind you have to do before you can play their most popular online mode and not be worthless.

And...maybe the mode isn't going away from that basic concept, but change doesn't happen if people are silent. I don't think anybody is asking for an overhaul, just a better middle ground. And as long as they keep hiking up prices, it's a legit question to ask why.

You aren't forced to, if you don't want to then buy the VC. Otherwise play the small amount of NBA games required to get up to a "respectable" level. Most people are being silent because they don't see a problem with an NBA player being required to play some NBA games to get better.

The answer is more money.

[ph33]

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You aren't forced to, if you don't want to then buy the VC. Otherwise play the small amount of NBA games required to get up to a "respectable" level. Most people are being silent because they don't see a problem with an NBA player being required to play some NBA games to get better.

The answer is more money.

If everybody is silent and just clapped their hands at everything, nobody would be held accountable.
"Some" NBA games...it's a lot more than some.

[GoDucks1224]

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If everybody is silent and just clapped their hands at everything, nobody would be held accountable.
"Some" NBA games...it's a lot more than some.

One game on 12 minute quarters in play now got like 1.5k VC last year. It's really not that hard lol. One game a day for a month is like 50k VC. But I'm 100% sure the people here play more than one game a day.

[HeatLifer]

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I never said I want to come in as a superstar. Just not a 55 rated player where I'm forced to play something else for quite a long time that I don't want to, in order to level up. I would actually love to play with a team full of 70s to start with. People might play to their archetypes more and stop trying to do everything.

I can't think of any other games where there's some grind you have to do before you can play their most popular online mode and not be worthless.

And...maybe the mode isn't going away from that basic concept, but change doesn't happen if people are silent. I don't think anybody is asking for an overhaul, just a better middle ground. And as long as they keep hiking up prices, it's a legit question to ask why.

What's stopping you from playing with 70s? I'm sure there will be plenty of 70s online.

"As long as they keep hiking up the prices, it's a legit question to ask why."

I give you the answer I see on Facebook all the time: " Dude's I'm a level 96 in my 2nd year of MyCareer, I've won MVP twice and won the championship both times on HOF with the 76ers, wtf is the point?"

There you go^^^ community had spoken, should 2k not listen and make it less difficult instead?

[DakkoN]

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I have no objection to grinding whatsoever. In Diamond Dynasty, MUT, FUT, HUT, MyTeam, that's a big part of the game.

But I do have a big objection to starting a player as low as they have you start at, in a mode that they're trying to tout as a competitive E-Sport.

You can't really be an E-Sport if a lot of it revolves around a heavy grind or paying for a shortcut.

That last line just made me think of a great idea. What if there was a "competitive" mode, where like Call of Duty's private matches, lets you have everything in the game unlocked from the get go and choose what you want. Everyone would be on equal ground with the same overalls and stats, all of the badges available to your archetype, etc. All of the archetype attributes would be capped at whatever they cap out at 99 overall. You would choose your archetype and your animations (like creating a class in Call of Duty), and then be matched up against other players that have done the same. The only thing that would matter would be player skills and decisions on what archetypes to use with your teammates. Would be a fun mode not only for people who don't want to suffer the grind of MyCareer, but also for competitive players who want the game to be based on skills instead of advantages that someone may have got just because they played the game a little more than someone else or paid more money.

[ph33]

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What's stopping you from playing with 70s? I'm sure there will be plenty of 70s online.

"As long as they keep hiking up the prices, it's a legit question to ask why."

I give you the answer I see on Facebook all the time: " Dude's I'm a level 96 in my 2nd year of MyCareer, I've won MVP twice and won the championship both times on HOF with the 76ers, wtf is the point?"

There you go^^^ community had spoken, should 2k not listen and make it less difficult instead?

Your Facebook reference talks about my career, not pro am. I have been talking about pro am

One game on 12 minute quarters in play now got like 1.5k VC last year. It's really not that hard lol. One game a day for a month is like 50k VC. But I'm 100% sure the people here play more than one game a day.

How many different ways can I say I don't want to do Play now, nor should I have to. My created player isn't getting leveled up in play now

[ph33]

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That last line just made me think of a great idea. What if there was a "competitive" mode, where like Call of Duty's private matches, lets you have everything in the game unlocked from the get go and choose what you want. Everyone would be on equal ground with the same overalls and stats, all of the badges available to your archetype, etc. All of the archetype attributes would be capped at whatever they cap out at 99 overall. You would choose your archetype and your animations (like creating a class in Call of Duty), and then be matched up against other players that have done the same. The only thing that would matter would be player skills and decisions on what archetypes to use with your teammates. Would be a fun mode not only for people who don't want to suffer the grind of MyCareer, but also for competitive players who want the game to be based on skills instead of advantages that someone may have got just because they played the game a little more than someone else or paid more money.

Yes!

What you just described has a MOBA like quality which falls in line with what an E-Sport really is.. MyCareer guys can keep their grind if they want to. I just want to play with teammates against another team and have it be good competition. Doesn't even have to be 99 OVR players, just something balanced.

It'd be cool if team up with regular teams had some kind of ranking and progression system, like if it was PNO Co-Op but with 5. But that mode is littered with quitters as they have no incentive to stay.

[GoDucks1224]

200,000 VC to upgrade player to 85

How many different ways can I say I don't want to do Play now, nor should I have to. My created player isn't getting leveled up in play now

Then buy VC. What's the issue? You're making the choice to ignore 80% of the game. So buy VC. Be a superstar. Live out your digital dreams. Show off that high overall to all those other digital guys at the virtual playground. Or earn it from the ample opportunities they provide you and don't complain? You guys act as if there is zero way to earn VC by playing the game. As if it MUST be purchased. I just don't get that mentality. As I've said before, I've never purchased VC. And I only casually play MyCareer. And I've still ended up with a mid 80's character every year.

[Mweemwee]

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I think 2k is trying to encourage the user to work towards leveling up your player vs buying a head start. Just my theory though...

Yeah, I mean, why on earth would 2K want more money from us? That must be it.

[Housh123]

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You can't call this greed when you're not forced to BUY VC with real money. Either grind it out yourself or don't.

Yes 2k knows ppl will buy VC but at the same time you can just play and level up without it too. It's optional.

Your crossing into sensitive lands here and what you say is true, but you are implying that 2k does this without money in mind and that thinking is just wouldn't be reality.

You aren't forced to buy VC but bro yes you are. The no VC grind probably requires 5 times the time commitment to get to a 99 over than if you start off at 85. Time is the most important thing a person has at the end of the day. Not money. We as an American culture value our time above all.

Also if this wasn't greed driven as you say 2k would show us. Maybe they'd only let you buy 10,000 VC a month. Or maybe players who haven't bought any VC get access to special badges in January or something. Aka if this wasn't about greed and 2k didn't want you to buy VC they'd add some incentive to not doing it.




To me it's pretty clear VC is a money grab and most of us seem to be ok with it for now


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[Junior Moe]

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When people say enough is enough they will stop buying, and 2K will stop. It's called the "market". Obviously people are paying for VC in droves, so it will continue.

I actually agree with you. I hope all of these constant complainers of VC do not buy the game. It will make the forums much cleaner with tips, strategies, and suggestions rather than the yearly VC complaint. If VC was required, I understand; But it's not and the argument is getting old. I'm glad NBA Live will give others a viable alternative.

Well said.

[Housh123]

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Then buy VC. What's the issue? You're making the choice to ignore 80% of the game. So buy VC. Be a superstar. Live out your digital dreams. Show off that high overall to all those other digital guys at the virtual playground. Or earn it from the ample opportunities they provide you and don't complain? You guys act as if there is zero way to earn VC by playing the game. As if it MUST be purchased. I just don't get that mentality. As I've said before, I've never purchased VC. And I only casually play MyCareer. And I've still ended up with a mid 80's character every year.

The fact that people are getting crap blown their way for being upset that it takes 10 times longer to get an 85 "naturally" than it does to just buy your head start really puzzles me. Like for you or anyone to not be able to understand the gripe is weird to me. In the 80s and 90s everyone in baseball used steroids. No you didn't HAVE to dope up but some ppl saw it as the only way to "even the playing field". Just because 2k doesn't put a gun to your head and make you do something doesn't mean they haven't made their game in a way that HEAVILY ENCOURAGES you to do something


The solution of "just play other modes" really don't do it for me. Maybe it was enough when I was a little kid and had 40 hours a week to put into the game. But most of us are grown adults who already work and have kids.

I for one can tolerate how it is now because I'm 100% sure that 2k did it this way for the demographic I just named. The busy people who if they played naturally would probably only get to about an 85 by the next 2k.





Only thing I'd do different is create incentive for not buying any VC. Special badges, ability to gain over a 99 rating etc.


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[NDAlum]

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At the end of the day 2K is a business. Their #1 priority is their bottom line. Will they alienate some of their core fan base? Sounds like they have inside this thread. What incentive does 2K have to stop their efforts on maximizing micro transactions? I don't see any. The guys complaining on this forum are likely still buying the game Day 1.

[nyk_fatboy]

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vc price still the same? $50 = 200 vc?

game = $60 + vc = $50 = $110 total.

most probably mess up their build, wont like their build or run into a OP build later on and will make a new player so. $110 + $50 more lol = $160 total on a video game right out the gate

i personally will start off playing mycareer and wont upgrade, the most ill do is work on badges and let the try hards upgrade their players while i sit back in the cut for a week or 2 on twitch getting an idea on whats a GO and whats a NO. then when i feel comfortable and know exactly what i want to do ill give 2k my money and work from there and never look back.

At the end of the day yeah the prelude will give you an idea on what to make and sets a small tone.. but its all about user interaction with other players that matter. playing cpu anyone can look good with any build.

[El_Poopador]

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Optional in the sense that you don't have to buy it. You earn it naturally playing every aspect of the game. But sure, I worded it wrong so instead of understanding what I meant, you can go ahead and focus on that. My mistake. But. How about we focus on what I quite clearly intended based on the very next sentence instead of making some smarta** comment?

And if you'd love that so much, feel free to buy VC. As for me, I'll be happily playing MyCareer and MyGM, upgrading when I have VC stockpiles rather than complaining about optional micro transactions online because I can't be a 99 overall superstar on day one and show off my epeen in the park.

And again, you're ignoring the point entirely. No one is saying they want to start off as an all star.

Personally, I don't even play online, so your epeen comment is just you being condescending for no reason. Some people don't have the time to grind every day just to make a respectable player.

Your comment about you being sure that everyone plays more than one game per day doesn't apply to me, who gets just a few hours a week for gaming. And that is for all games, not just 2k.

I don't understand why you're against having an NBA ready player from the start. Again, not saying we should be rated 99 from the start, but if I'm a guard or small forward, I should be able to run faster and shoot/pass better than a center. The fact that we start with such poor ratings is laughable.


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