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  • Korrupted
    Pro
    • Nov 2015
    • 917

    #241
    Re: Official 2k Combine Thread.

    Originally posted by ph33
    I'd be curious to see how the guy averaging 30+ ppg actually played.

    Most likely they:

    1) Dashboarded a lot
    2) Played totally selfishly all the time
    3) 1+2

    I mean damn, 20 FGA per game? Do I have that right? I would be lucky if I got to shoot that much in THREE games with the people who were out there.
    I came across a few guys on that list in the combine and they were hogging. SF's were taking over at the PG position making the PG either quit or stop coming down the court on offense because he wasn't getting the ball. Some players were just cherry picking the entire time as well. The ones that didn't have a solid game either dashboarded or fouled out so the game didn't count. Not saying that everybody on the list did that but the ones I came across did.
    Last edited by Korrupted; 02-23-2018, 08:10 AM.

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    • Foldzy
      MVP
      • Oct 2014
      • 1627

      #242
      Re: Official 2k Combine Thread.

      I hope they just take top pro am players and you tubers... the combine was a joke

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      • ph33
        MVP
        • Oct 2014
        • 3261

        #243
        Re: Official 2k Combine Thread.

        Originally posted by Korrupted
        I came across a few guys on that list in the combine and they were hogging. SF's were taking over at the PG position making the PG either quit or stop coming down the court on offense because he wasn't getting the ball. Some players were just cherry picking the entire time as well. The ones that didn't have a solid game either dashboarded or fouled out so the game didn't count. Not saying that everybody on the list did that but the ones I came across did.

        That's pretty much what I figured.

        I'll stick with playing with my dudes who I enjoy playing with. Hopefully, they expand on the combine and make it a regular mode next year along with what exists now. If people want a godlike player to pay for or grind it, there will definitely be a place for that. But excluding this in the next title would be robbing their consumers (Which means they won't including it because that's their M.O.)

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        • splashmountain
          Pro
          • Aug 2016
          • 809

          #244
          Re: Official 2k Combine Thread.

          Originally posted by OrlandoTill
          I see it as this.

          Everyone was scared of Sharpshooting archetypes dominating the balanced build of the game. People were scared of Glorified 5-Out coming in to the combine

          Well they got their wish.
          you're right. but the problem is the usual problem with 2k hoops. Its one extreme to the next extreme. never a middle ground. I just dont get it. Are the devs or maybe it aint the devs, maybe we need to layoff the devs and talk about their bosses giving them suspect direction. suspect being not the direction that would put the game in a place where things would actually be balanced without being nerfed or way over powered.

          It went from the 5 out to the 5 in. lol.

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          • splashmountain
            Pro
            • Aug 2016
            • 809

            #245
            Re: Official 2k Combine Thread.

            Originally posted by Foldzy
            I hope they just take top pro am players and you tubers... the combine was a joke
            again, that wont fly either. the pro am players. all play the exact same way. 5 out. dribble dribble dribble, ankle breaker animation. go to the rack. hope a defender slides over, kick it out with that gold to hall of fame dimer badge. FOR THREEE.

            That's not exciting to watch a season full of games played like that. It's cute for a game or 3 but thats it. Eventually it gets old and stale.

            You need something for players to show actual basketball being played on this video game. How to merge the two where it would be entertaining to watch over an actual season.

            Right now. The team pro am is way to extreme on one side of it and the combine is way to extreme on the other. There needs to be a middle ground found.

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            • splashmountain
              Pro
              • Aug 2016
              • 809

              #246
              Re: Official 2k Combine Thread.

              Originally posted by Korrupted
              I came across a few guys on that list in the combine and they were hogging. SF's were taking over at the PG position making the PG either quit or stop coming down the court on offense because he wasn't getting the ball. Some players were just cherry picking the entire time as well. The ones that didn't have a solid game either dashboarded or fouled out so the game didn't count. Not saying that everybody on the list did that but the ones I came across did.
              as we knew they would. anyone who played 40+ combine games and saw those insane stats on forbes based on the 2klab stats that they turned in. we all pretty much knew it was abusing exploits or taking the game completely over while others watch them score.

              Look at it like this. How in the blue hell do you average 40 points per game when we all know the average ppg for the Combine was like 70 to 105 points. You telling me these dudes were basically scoring darn near half or more than half the points of their entire team. and we're supposed to believe they were good teammates or were not being force fed by a friend(hey, lets go in the combine at the same time to see if we matchup.)

              That means the assists would be boosted on that kind of play, and the points for the guy getting all the passes will be way over the top. Does that tell me these two players are really good? NO. it tells me they found some exploit to abuse while their teammates were at their mercy. Now will that work in a real team environment? will everyone on your team that was doing the same exploit abusing for points and assists want to play the back seat for you to do that again this time? NOPE. not most people. some will be fine with it. most others will not. Because now its a real life league where stats will be tracked. if I was dropping 40 in the combine. i dont want to be just a role player getting 12 a game because some other dude wants to drop the same 40 in the regular season. Nope, not happening.

              Then what happens if/when 2k changes the sliders? That could completely change how guys were getting their numbers and turn it into a different game where guys once again have to look for the next exploit to abuse. This is the one issue you will have with making a league based on a game with so many obvious flaws. people will hunt for the flaws. abuse the hell out of it and it will end up boring the viewers in the long run.

              But hopefully this is a learning experience for 2k to allow their devs to have more time and do a better job with the next installment.

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              • splashmountain
                Pro
                • Aug 2016
                • 809

                #247
                Re: Official 2k Combine Thread.

                Originally posted by loso_34
                that term low IQ gets thrown around way too often. used to first hear it when fans of the game would call players who played their entire life in multiple systems bad IQ players.

                and here i see anybody who doesnt help yall get the stats you want is a no IQ brainless player. Its a combine the bad apples will be phased out from here on out. yall worry too much about teammates.
                bad IQ isnt thrown around too much. However, it was thrown around by other bad iq guys/gals. lol. It was the pot calling the kettle black happening a lot in the combine.

                "Bro...You trash."

                as they force another contested shot or as they force feed the big with 3 guys on him looking for the easy assist when other guys were wide open or had a better angle to hit that same big. Nope. most of these guys forgot the game counts Pass to Assists.

                They were not having any parts of that.

                You had a few types of combine players:
                1. Bad IQ but good guys(didnt do it on purpose but didnt know much about basketball plays and spacing. they just watch it and play it on 2k and maybe play pickup in real life thats it. but this guy would listen to other teammates who were trying to help him out.

                2. Bad IQ and also bad guys at heart. meaning, these guys exhibited horrible spacing, horrible basketball knowledge and didnt want to change. refused to change. the #1 up top at least would listen and could be reigned in before the game was over.

                3.Decent Hoop IQ/ Super High IQ in Finding and abusing game exploits
                These will most likely be your draftees

                4. Super High Hoop IQ/Not really about that exploit abuse life.
                These will be the guys that 2k should hope get drafted more so than #3 because these type of guys can make their game look like the real nba.

                5. Guys that have hoop iq but lost it in the combine trying to over inflate their stats. PG's that wanted the ball in their hands the entire game so they could be the only person getting assists(this is how you see some guys averaging crazy assists per game.) this also means no one else can get an assist on your team, no one else can get a pass to assist. they are just out there spacing the floor. Bigs(especially Centers) camping in the paint on both ends refusing to come out for spacing purposes or to allow someone else to get some shine. NOPE> they aint leaving that paint...ever.


                The combined showed me a whole lot of #1's,#2's, #3's, and #5's. And #3's and #5's are actually the same people at times as well.

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                • splashmountain
                  Pro
                  • Aug 2016
                  • 809

                  #248
                  Re: Official 2k Combine Thread.

                  Originally posted by Korrupted
                  Overall Combine Record
                  30-11 (All games played at SG)

                  Stats
                  15.2 PPG
                  1.0 RBG
                  4.6 APG
                  67% FG%
                  57% 3P%
                  85% FT%

                  The Combine was definitely an experience. Stat wise I feel I could've done a lot better. I would say 6 out of the 11 losses that I had was either from buzzer beaters or games lost in OT. 2k definitely has to implement a new system next year though. Way too many bad players were in the combine and it was frustrating.
                  for you to have that kind of winning record and that nice of a 3p% i have to ask you a few questions.

                  #1. what build did you use most be specific to the archetype
                  #2 and did you get most of your points on the break? I'm asking because I'm looking at your fg% and your lack of rebounds. that smells like a leaker. which is fine as long as your teammates had those defensive boards on lock? which they did because you had a good winning percentage.

                  See i really know basketball. i can look at your stats and position and pretty much gauge how that game went.

                  In addition your teammates. even though you said you had a lot of bad teammates. if that is true how on earth did you end up with that kind of win lose record? I see you did your part putting the ball in the basket and made a few assists. But i dont see you sitting on 9+ assists per game with 25ppg or more with that same high fg and 3p%.

                  what I'm saying is, you could only affect your game by so much. so how is it that you only had a small part in the outcome of your games but you won so often if you had so many bad teammates As you stated yourself? Or was it that you played on very good teams and you SAW and played against Terrible players?

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                  • splashmountain
                    Pro
                    • Aug 2016
                    • 809

                    #249
                    Re: Official 2k Combine Thread.

                    Originally posted by Aaron_James
                    Well its over. If they ever do this again they need to make it more difficult to enter in the combine. Wayyy too many people had no business being a part of this process. The game mode is awesome. I love the balanced play. The users just made it frustrating. I couldn't even be on the mic anymore, i got tired of dealing with low iq ignorant people and the constant background noise.

                    I finished with averaging 12 pts 1.5 reb 12 assists 70 games in. (PG) I felt like I played pretty good but there are guys averaging 20 pts and 15 assists. I dont know how they get those numbers. It baffles me. I want to see their film. Comparing the stats on 2klabs it looks like my stat line is pretty average. Oh well back to play now online
                    The reason you didnt score more is because you chose to make the right play. which meant passing the ball to the sg or sf or pf because you knew they had a better angle to pass to someone else. you probably had a ton of "pass to assists". something that wont show up on the box score but did help your overall grade.

                    One game it was turnover city. I dont think i have ever in life had that many TO's. i had like 8. wasnt caused by the defense doubling me or running into me for the bump steals or me throwing horrible passes. The same passes i just threw 3 games in a row with 2 to's or less. all of a sudden 2k said Nope. you can't make that same pass anymore. no up the court passes, even if the guy wasnt passed half court, no more passes right next to you. yes thats right. i was standing next to my teammate. I passed him the ball with the icons on. the ball went past him and out of bounds. we were all dying laughing. it was one of those games. and it wasnt just me, my entire team was a turnover fest for no rhyme or reason. yet with all those to's. Why did i have an A grade? Because I have a basketball IQ. i make the right plays, I stand in the right spots, I move without the ball properly. i pickup other people's men to stop the fast break. shoot. I probably have more stop the fast break points than anyone in the combine. i noticed very few people would do that for me. they would let my man run out on me after i scored and wouldnt bump him. and then yell"bro, guard your man." I'm like dude. do you understand physics? if a PF just scored and his man takes off full speed. there is no way i'm catching him. thats why the perimeter players have to shift and always have 2 guys back to turn and run to stop any long bomb passes or quick fast plays.

                    i had teammates that graded out the game and i saw opponents grade out without having 8 TO's. how did that happen? because they had bad iq's. didnt know where to be on offense. always in the way. didnt know where to be on defense or just plain cherry picking playing no defense.

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                    • hanzsomehanz
                      MVP
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 3275

                      #250
                      Re: Official 2k Combine Thread.

                      One of the top prospects had a quadruple-double!


                      https://twitter.com/NickTheBullsFan/...08109979115520IMG_20180223_140538.jpg

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                      • Keith01
                        Banned
                        • Aug 2017
                        • 748

                        #251
                        Re: Official 2k Combine Thread.

                        Originally posted by ph33
                        I'd be curious to see how the guy averaging 30+ ppg actually played.

                        Most likely they:

                        1) Dashboarded a lot
                        2) Played totally selfishly all the time
                        3) 1+2

                        I mean damn, 20 FGA per game? Do I have that right? I would be lucky if I got to shoot that much in THREE games with the people who were out there.
                        Exactly. Like I've said all along, it's based on luck (of who your teammates are) not skill. Which is the opposite of how you wanna draft "pros" who'll be getting paid and representing 2K and the NBA.

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                        • Keith01
                          Banned
                          • Aug 2017
                          • 748

                          #252
                          Re: Official 2k Combine Thread.

                          Originally posted by splashmountain
                          wasnt caused by the defense doubling me or running into me for the bump steals or me throwing horrible passes. The same passes i just threw 3 games in a row with 2 to's or less. all of a sudden 2k said Nope. you can't make that same pass anymore.
                          That'd be the effect of the good 'ol "intentional foul glitch". (Don't say it too loud though around here though or they'll call you a conspiracy theorist and get your thread closed for no reason even they didn't even test it themselves). This glitch causes bad passes and sticky hands from defenders. Tested it 1000x

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                          • Keith01
                            Banned
                            • Aug 2017
                            • 748

                            #253
                            Re: Official 2k Combine Thread.

                            Originally posted by Foldzy
                            I hope they just take top pro am players and you tubers... the combine was a joke
                            Joke is the most accurate word to describe the combine. I couldn't believe so many low iq noobs thought they were among the best in the world lmao. Equivalent of a 600 lb 70 yr old trying out for the Warriors, sharing the court with top college prospects. But instead of the legitimate prospects being the majority, 8 out of 10 players were 600 lbs.

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                            • hanzsomehanz
                              MVP
                              • Oct 2009
                              • 3275

                              #254
                              Re: Official 2k Combine Thread.

                              Top C (@OneWildWalnut2k) on 2klab combine stats boasts a 91-9 record [emoji44][emoji44][emoji91][emoji91]

                              https://twitter.com/OneWildWalnut2K/...65436944751124IMG_20180223_203037.jpgIMG_20180223_203034.jpg

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                              • ph33
                                MVP
                                • Oct 2014
                                • 3261

                                #255
                                Re: Official 2k Combine Thread.

                                I really, really want to watch footage of how this guy pulled that off.

                                I will say this --- what he did is impressive. Even if you're a ball hog of the highest order and the most selfish player out there, no regular person could put up the numbers he did (57% from 3? wtf). I mean, I can do that in MyCareer against a bunch of crappy AI, but that's because I get the ball literally every possession and don't have to fight other humans for rebounds.

                                So...how did he do this with 4 randoms all the time?

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