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  • howardphillips214
    MVP
    • Jan 2018
    • 1928

    #1771
    Re: Pro Am Builds For 2k19

    I mean... If you are depending on your center to score there is something wrong. You can create mismatches 1_4 all day. You need at least one person to dedicate themselves to the gritty parts.

    When I'm the 5 and I have 15 reb and 10 assists i feel that's a heavy contribution. Also, holding my matchup to under 50 percent. I'm not going to sacrifice my ability to control the paint just to stand in the corner on offense.

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    • awg811
      Pro
      • Jul 2009
      • 768

      #1772
      Pro Am Builds For 2k19

      There’s a difference in camping the paint and being around the paint.
      In the NBA there’s always at least one big around the paint, but there’s rarely one that sits in the paint for 2.9 seconds, leaves the paint for .5 seconds and goes right back to sitting in the paint for 2.9 seconds.
      Camping in the paint greatly diminishes the effectiveness of the offense and other players. Regardless of how many rebounds and assists you get, if you’re clogging the paint you are hurting your team.
      If you run with a squad and they don’t have a problem with it or design their offense in that way, it’s a different story. But, if you’re running with a pick up squad, you’re likely making everyone mad and hurting your team.

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      Last edited by awg811; 05-10-2019, 02:52 PM.

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      • mightyrx
        Rookie
        • Aug 2008
        • 161

        #1773
        Re: Pro Am Builds For 2k19

        Originally posted by awg811
        There’s a difference in camping the paint and being around the paint.
        In the NBA there’s always at least one big around the paint, but there’s rarely one that sits in the paint for 2.9 seconds, leaves the paint for .5 seconds and goes right back to sitting in the paint for 2.9 seconds.
        Camping in the paint greatly diminishes the effectiveness of the offense and other players. Regardless of how many rebounds and assists you get, if you’re clogging the paint you are hurting your team.
        If you run with a squad and they don’t have a problem with it or design their offense in that way, it’s a different story. But, if you’re running with a pick up squad, you’re likely making everyone mad and hurting your team.

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        Sounds like that pick up squad needs to learn and understand spacing, off ball movement and ball movement...
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        • shawnydee
          Pro
          • Nov 2012
          • 839

          #1774
          Re: Pro Am Builds For 2k19

          Originally posted by Rockie_Fresh88
          On another note won a game with some decent randoms . They were all on mics and shared the ball. They even let me post up which is super rare.

          The next game we matched up with an elite squad . Had a record of 1200 wins and like 60 losses lol. That ended the session pretty quickly .
          that lost quote killed me lmao

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          • jyoung
            Hall Of Fame
            • Dec 2006
            • 11132

            #1775
            Re: Pro Am Builds For 2k19

            Pure post center works better as a park build than a pro am build due to its lack of outside shooting. If you can't at least hit a corner three at 50% in pro am then you are basically forcing your team to play 4v5 on every offensive possession since the defense will just be helping off you and you won't have any way to punish the help defender without a reliable jumpshot.

            Shot post power forward and pure post small forward are great pro am builds though since they can shoot reliably and score in the post.

            I've got a 7'0" shot post PF and he's a reliable three point threat with just a 62 rating and bronze shooting badges.

            My friend has a 6'10" pure post SF and he's even more reliable than me from three due to his higher three point rating and silver catch & shoot badge. Pure post SF also gets silver defensive stopper which is a huge advantage this year on defense.
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            • howardphillips214
              MVP
              • Jan 2018
              • 1928

              #1776
              Re: Pro Am Builds For 2k19

              Originally posted by awg811
              There’s a difference in camping the paint and being around the paint.
              In the NBA there’s always at least one big around the paint, but there’s rarely one that sits in the paint for 2.9 seconds, leaves the paint for .5 seconds and goes right back to sitting in the paint for 2.9 seconds.
              Camping in the paint greatly diminishes the effectiveness of the offense and other players. Regardless of how many rebounds and assists you get, if you’re clogging the paint you are hurting your team.
              If you run with a squad and they don’t have a problem with it or design their offense in that way, it’s a different story. But, if you’re running with a pick up squad, you’re likely making everyone mad and hurting your team.

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              Its like youve never heard of an off ball screens.screen. i learned to play big from my GC buddy. Off ball screens and ball screens with dives after contact. You don't always get the cut and a good look at the basket (we wont talk about bobble catches and body up animations as soon as you touch the ball tho) but it enables you to get offensive boards for knockouts (putbacks are essentially worthless). And sometimes ill pop out for the occasional 3 attempt(my rim has a 59 3 right now). But I'm not just going to sit in the corner all game either.

              I have a PG buddy that is a good point guard. But I literally have to space all game with him. I have a build for that, too. My sharp shooting shot creator is essentially relegated to a spot up shooter with him on the court.

              Ive got every build besides a pure sharp. I can play 1-5 but i prefer the wings this year.

              My 6'10 slashing shot creator is my favorite build. Can literally do everything. I matched a,GC PF reb for reb the other day.

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              • awg811
                Pro
                • Jul 2009
                • 768

                #1777
                Re: Pro Am Builds For 2k19

                It’s not like I’ve never heard of anything.
                All I said was that if a big is camping the paint, as described in my comment, he is hurting his team.


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                • Kleinevos
                  Pro
                  • Nov 2017
                  • 599

                  #1778
                  Re: Pro Am Builds For 2k19

                  Originally posted by howardphillips214
                  Forgot to mention he was a 93 OVR.



                  In almost 1000 games he was only a 33% winning player? Seems to me he didnt help many teams get Ws. They have tons of badges, but none of them accentuate their main abilities. Post fades, hooks, and floaters are all,pretty much bad shots. Hopstep jumpers are the best shot they have and they need tons of space to pull that move off. They don't rebound very well, they cant shoot very well.



                  I just dont see the point in post scoring this year. At all.


                  The archetype is solid. It’s just a difficult build to master, especially in the 5vs5.

                  I stuck with my 6’9SF slashing post to get his badges up, and now i wish i played him from the beginning of the year.

                  Very effective build in the rec.
                  I have gold diffshots and silver catxhnshoot. With a 70 open mid that’s deadly enough with the right jumper.
                  I’m solid from corners on a dimer with silver catchnShoot. I will only shoot those to earn respect from matchup.

                  An 88 postscoring Lets me do all the moves on gold badges.
                  And with gold posterizer/acrobat/teardrop and hof relentless i’m beastly at the rim. 2 more overalls and i have contact dunks aswel

                  And then i still have silver defensive stopper, bronze pickpocket so i’m solid on D



                  What i see from most post scorers both in park and rec is they simply dont understand the mechanics well enough.
                  Post scoring requires a lot of finesse

                  Hooks and fades dont use badges, but that can be a strength too: playing SF i face a lot of LDD and just a bit of sunshine is enough to pull off a fade. His defensive badges hurt my stats a bit, but there is no badge that bails him out of giving me space to fade

                  And then there’s the zones, where you initiate the fade from.
                  Both the fades and posthops atleast partially use the stats from the zone you initiate the shot from.

                  This is why i will almost only fade from the zone that counts as close shot with my slashing post, as that stat is in the 90ies.

                  As soon as i start doing midrange fades, it becomes trickier

                  Deep fades near the arch as anything but a shotpost/postshot is a bad look unless you really have the timing down to a point.

                  Yesterday i went into rec with a 5lineup of semi randoms. Like we were all in party but we dont play together regulary.
                  All amateur 3 in rec

                  We came out vs a premade of pro’s. They had 3 defenders, playing a 3-2 zone.

                  I constantly was on the lowblock, making trouble
                  Ended up losing by 2 points, i dropped a 30 bomb on that zone, 8 assists 6rebs

                  The badges on this build are so allround its insane
                  Stats look mediocre on paper but badges and the right animations >>>>> stats

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                  • Thrustie
                    Pro
                    • Sep 2016
                    • 764

                    #1779
                    Re: Pro Am Builds For 2k19

                    The question of spacing for an inside scoring Center is an interesting one. I play as a Rebounding AF so naturally, I can’t shoot. I don’t camp the paint but obviously I cut in when I logically think there’s an opportunity. It’s true I don’t help a ton with spacing but I still don’t think my build is a detriment. Pair me with enough shooters and I think it makes for a good mix.

                    It does get a bit dicey if I have teammates who can’t create offence off of screens, I admit. There’s been games where my matchup doesn’t even bother following me around as I set screens but my teammates are unable to shoot off them or pass to the players I free up with off ball screens in a timely fashion. Those games can be frustrating and those are the ones I regret not being able to shoot because my matchup is getting a free pass. In most cases though I feel like the extra possessions I’m able to secure from being around the paint and the generally efficient offence I can provide when the perimeter D is strong makes up for it.

                    I’ve played against a ton of Sharpshooting Rim Protectors/Rebounders. The former are usually weak on the glass and the latter are typically slow as sin so I can expose them in transition. I do understand that just their presence serves a purpose because it prevents me from protecting the rim but I don’t think that’s enough to make them the only viable Center builds.

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                    • howardphillips214
                      MVP
                      • Jan 2018
                      • 1928

                      #1780
                      Re: Pro Am Builds For 2k19

                      Athleticism is already undervalued. The day hustle and good defense is outweighed by a corner 3 im out.

                      Put a stretch 5 against my big in rec. Yeah, you might pull me away from the rim on defense, but imma have at least 6-7 offensive rebounds for kickouts. And that's without camping. That's just reading the offense and diving when the shot is up.

                      My reb rim is Drummond/Deandre Jordan and its fun. The only issue I have with him is finishing. Even with ooper gold he goes for soft layups. They just killed inside for hits. But that's cool cuz they don't finish over me even less

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                      • ph33
                        MVP
                        • Oct 2014
                        • 3261

                        #1781
                        Pro Am Builds For 2k19

                        I really hope they have some system in the future where you don't have to grind for badges twice and things are more universal between profiles/characters, whatever. It'd be nice to try other play styles out but pretty hard to do without badges and a boat load of VC. I certainly feel like I've put enough hours into this....


                        (me lamenting wanting to grind a new player out but not having the energy for it whatsoever)

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                        • Kleinevos
                          Pro
                          • Nov 2017
                          • 599

                          #1782
                          Re: Pro Am Builds For 2k19

                          Originally posted by ph33
                          I really hope they have some system in the future where you don't have to grind for badges twice and things are more universal between profiles/characters, whatever. It'd be nice to try other play styles out but pretty hard to do without badges and a boat load of VC. I certainly feel like I've put enough hours into this....


                          (me lamenting wanting to grind a new player out but not having the energy for it whatsoever)


                          Dont forget that badge progression has been nerfed into the ground


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                          • awg811
                            Pro
                            • Jul 2009
                            • 768

                            #1783
                            Re: Pro Am Builds For 2k19

                            Originally posted by ph33
                            I really hope they have some system in the future where you don't have to grind for badges twice and things are more universal between profiles/characters, whatever. It'd be nice to try other play styles out but pretty hard to do without badges and a boat load of VC. I certainly feel like I've put enough hours into this....


                            (me lamenting wanting to grind a new player out but not having the energy for it whatsoever)


                            I think almost everyone would like this, but I think almost everyone also knows that it will never happen.
                            2k wants ALL your money, not just a little.


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                            • Find_the_Door
                              Nogueira connoisseur
                              • Jan 2012
                              • 4051

                              #1784
                              Re: Pro Am Builds For 2k19

                              Been having a ton of success with my post scoring stretch four.

                              Awesome badges and really is a knock down shooter from 3 once you get to 90 OVR.
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                              • ph33
                                MVP
                                • Oct 2014
                                • 3261

                                #1785
                                Re: Pro Am Builds For 2k19

                                Originally posted by awg811
                                I think almost everyone would like this, but I think almost everyone also knows that it will never happen.
                                2k wants ALL your money, not just a little.


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                                I think it is possible that this idea could encourage more spending. I know 2k got their greed, but this might benefit both parties....

                                I've played the game enough where I should have HOF badges on everything. I usually spend enough at the very beginning to get my player maxed or close to it at launch, and then everything earned in the game after that is saved for future players.

                                I reached a point where I figured, alright I got enough players, I'm just going to spend my VC on boosts now. But imagine if I could pay for an 85 with maxed out badges, isn't that the ultimate shortcut? People would be dishing $$$ out left and right if they had the opportunity to make a player that came equipped with badges.

                                I'm thinking that you got one universal profile, and after that are say, 10 Save Slots like what they got now, and anytime you wanna make a new player you get the badges with it but have to spend VC on attributes. Sounds like a win win for everybody!

                                I'd honestly feel like a ******* fool if I spent money on a player at this stage, but the option has to be enticing right?

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