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  • awg811
    Pro
    • Jul 2009
    • 768

    #481
    Official 2k20 MyPlayer Build Thread.

    Originally posted by Korrupted
    No guarantee that 6'5 is the META for guards. Everybody was running around saying the 6'2 guard build from 2k16 was the best until 6'7 guards were discovered. I'd hold judgement until the actual game comes out. Ronnie said SF's were getting a buff so things can change once the game is released.


    As of right now, 6’5” guards are the absolute best in the game.
    SF’s are not the only ones that need buffs. PF’s and likely centers need a buff also.
    Slashers are the meta right now as well because they can’t be stopped at the rim regardless of defense, add to that the ease of getting to the rim. The developers knew this already that’s why they said they will need a nerf.
    It’s also funny that at 6’5” you have the best all of skills along with the highest number of badge points. Taller than 6’5” everything takes a hit. Shooting, dunking, layups, defense, ball handling, Playmaking, everything. This is not how it is in the NBA.
    As I’ve said multiple times the best players currently and throughout history have been 6’7” and above.
    Name me 5 players at 6’5” that are considered the best in the game.
    As it stands right now, everyone will be making a 6’5” guard.
    It seems that everyone that’s trying to make this a non-issue are doing so because they plan to make a 6’5” guard.

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    Last edited by awg811; 08-26-2019, 09:53 AM.

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    • Kleinevos
      Pro
      • Nov 2017
      • 599

      #482
      Re: Official 2k20 MyPlayer Build Thread.

      Originally posted by tru11
      man its just ******** to spread post play over 3 skills and then group defending with rebounding likes its the same skill.


      I managed to make a good 7’2 post player. Kept throwing those hooks over cauley Stein like i was kareem

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      • Korrupted
        Pro
        • Nov 2015
        • 917

        #483
        Re: Official 2k20 MyPlayer Build Thread.

        Originally posted by awg811
        As of right now, 6’5” guards are the absolute best in the game.
        SF’s are not the only ones that need buffs. PF’s and likely centers need a buff also.
        Slashers are the meta right now as well because they can’t be stopped at the rim regardless of defense, add to that the ease of getting to the rim. The developers knew this already that’s why they said they will need a nerf.
        It’s also funny that at 6’5” you have the best all of skills along with the highest number of badge points. Taller than 6’5” everything takes a hit. Shooting, dunking, layups, defense, ball handling, Playmaking, everything. This is not how it is in the NBA.
        As I’ve said multiple times the best players currently and throughout history have been 6’7” and above.
        Name me 5 players at 6’5” that are considered the best in the game.
        As it stands right now, everyone will be making a 6’5” guard.
        It seems that everyone that’s trying to make this a non-issue are doing so because they plan to make a 6’5” guard.

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        You're putting too much emphasis on ratings and skills bruh. In the past none of that stuff has mattered. 19 was a prime example of that. I won't get consumed in ratings and badges until we see how effective all of that stuff is.
        You guys constantly cried about SF's being too OP in previous 2k's now all of a sudden they need a buff? Make your mind up.

        2k has kinda forced people to make shorter players over the years. Most guards want to speedboost or be quick enough to beat their defender. Currently you can't do that with taller players. It's definitely something that 2k has to fix. I still won't jump to conclusion and say 6'5 is the way to go or Slashers are the meta due to blow by animations. All of that stuff can change when the game officially release.

        You don't have to be 6'7+ to be considered the best in the game. Allen Iverson is a PRIME example. You could argue Dwyane Wade was one of the best players in the game in 2006, Prime Derrick Rose won MVP standing at 6'3ish , Stephen Curry another 6'3 player won an unanimous MVP as well. Jordan is the GOAT and he's listed as 6'6. Not sure what you're getting at with this whole 6'7+ thing but there are plenty of players that have been great being a shorter height.
        Last edited by Korrupted; 08-26-2019, 12:08 PM.

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        • BQ32
          Pro
          • Jan 2011
          • 671

          #484
          Re: Official 2k20 MyPlayer Build Thread.

          Originally posted by awg811
          As of right now, 6’5” guards are the absolute best in the game.
          SF’s are not the only ones that need buffs. PF’s and likely centers need a buff also.
          Slashers are the meta right now as well because they can’t be stopped at the rim regardless of defense, add to that the ease of getting to the rim. The developers knew this already that’s why they said they will need a nerf.
          It’s also funny that at 6’5” you have the best all of skills along with the highest number of badge points. Taller than 6’5” everything takes a hit. Shooting, dunking, layups, defense, ball handling, Playmaking, everything. This is not how it is in the NBA.
          As I’ve said multiple times the best players currently and throughout history have been 6’7” and above.
          Name me 5 players at 6’5” that are considered the best in the game.
          As it stands right now, everyone will be making a 6’5” guard.
          It seems that everyone that’s trying to make this a non-issue are doing so because they plan to make a 6’5” guard.

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          What are you babbling about man, do you even watch basketball. Both Jordan and Kobe, Goats were both 6'6, Jerry west was 6'4 or less, All of the greatest point guards in history except Magic and maybe Penny were under 6'7. James Harden is 6'5, Steph Curry is 6'3, they are two of the top 5 players in the world right now not to mention other top 10 like Westbrook, D lillard exc. All of the Best players were Certainly not over 6'7. Actually if you take back down bigs out you are basically left with LeBron and Bird and maybe Dirk as all time greats over 6'7 that played on the perimeter. Even then they all played in the post frequently.

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          • Rain723
            Rookie
            • Sep 2015
            • 37

            #485
            Re: Official 2k20 MyPlayer Build Thread.

            Originally posted by awg811
            And SF’s are supposed to be the most well rounded players.
            Again, 6’5” guards are the best most OP builds in the game.
            I never once said anything about wanting the Playmaking of a guard and again currently and throughout history the best players in the game are mostly 6’7” and above. However, since were talking about the Playmaking of a guard, you might want to take a look around the league and through history to see all the guys that are 6’7” and taller that have as good if not better Playmaking as a guard.
            No, you don’t get more attribute points for a small forward through power forward regardless of what build you chooses. A 6’5” guard gets the most attributes and the most badges regardless of build.
            How many 6’5” guards can you think of that are the best players in the game? Look that up and get back to me.
            If you can make a 6’5” guard that’s better than any other height or position, why make any other height or position?


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            Your argument that the best players in history have been 6’7 and above is not only biased but simply not true lol. And of those players, how many of them were do it all players? Players were less skilled and less versatile back then. But if we look at the last decade or so, it’s been the PG position that’s been revolutionized. It’s been D. Rose, Westbrook, Curry, CP3, John Wall etc. changing the game. But I’m not here trying to argue that PGs should be rated higher. But for them to be rated higher in traditional areas of focus for a pg? I don’t see your issue. If you’re being technical and wanna look throughout history, sfs are traditionally jack of all trades master of none. They should be able to do everything well but be elite at nothing. Kind of the glue guy.

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            • Rain723
              Rookie
              • Sep 2015
              • 37

              #486
              Re: Official 2k20 MyPlayer Build Thread.

              Originally posted by franzis
              Fine but the solution isn't making everyone taller than 6'7 just a decent ball handler with decent speed w/ ball at best by default.
              The solution would be locking speedbosting and certain dribbling animations to players taller than 6'6/6'7, because those are the real game breaking mechanisms not the ratings per se.

              Same logic they already apply to dunk animations and was supposed to be applied to jumpshots before the "techinical reasons" mentioned by beluba.
              Yes it should be harder to make a taller player a better ball handler. Think about how rare it is to have a forward who can truly handle the ball. Point forwards aren’t the norm. So if you’re making a non traditional build, how do you expect it to play the same way it traditionally would as a pg? That’d be like me making a defensive pg and complaining that my rebounding and blocks can’t get as high as maybe a center with the same build.

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              • BQ32
                Pro
                • Jan 2011
                • 671

                #487
                Re: Official 2k20 MyPlayer Build Thread.

                For the people that really think slashers are the meta I dare you all to go ahead and make a bunch of them in a game of 2k where 3s rain like a hurricane. I will be laughing all the way to the scorebooks with a playmaking sharp. You do you realize you are playing against the CPU on Rookie right?

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                • awg811
                  Pro
                  • Jul 2009
                  • 768

                  #488
                  Official 2k20 MyPlayer Build Thread.

                  I most definitely do watch basketball and have probably been watching it since before most of you were born.
                  I did not say that there are not great players under 6’7” but the vast majority are over 6’7” currently and throughout history.
                  I never once said anything about SF’s being OP.
                  We’re not talking strictly about PG’s of course they will be under 6’7” the majority of the time.
                  For all of the Hardens, Curry’s, Lillards, you have Lebrons, Giannis, KDs, Kawhis, Klays, Dremonds, Embiids, ADs, Simons, and the list goes on and on. Scottie Pippen, Magic, Penny, the list of great players 6’7” and above far exceeds the list of great players under that height.
                  My point is balance, not to have OP builds above 6’7”. I’d prefer nerfing guys under 6’7” and leaving those above 6’7” as they are and nerfing slashing and the ease of getting to the rim.
                  I made two slashers and those were the only two times that I scored 50 or more points in the demo.
                  I made a 7’0” lockdown glass cleaner with HOF rim protector and HOF Intimidator and still got scored on nearly every time someone slashed to the bucket.
                  The difference between being 6’5” and 6’7” isn’t nearly as drastic as 2k is making it. Hell, the difference between 6’5” and 6’10” isn’t even as drastic as 2k is making 6’5” to 6’7”.
                  Balance is all I’m asking for.
                  Again, if you are arguing, you’re likely making a guard.


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                  Last edited by awg811; 08-26-2019, 12:01 PM.

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                  • Yeah...THAT Guy
                    Once in a Lifetime Memory
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 17294

                    #489
                    Re: Official 2k20 MyPlayer Build Thread.

                    I had intended to use the 3nD pie for my wing. I generally play as a role player with my Pro-Am squad and just focus on trying to be in the right place at the right time basically, but the Sharpshooting build is looking pretty good to me.



                    30 Shooting badges, 9 defense, 9 playmaking, and 1 slashing.

                    HOF:
                    Catch and Shoot
                    Flexible Release
                    Range Extender

                    Gold:
                    Corner Specialist
                    Difficult Shots
                    Steady Shooter
                    Slippery Off-Ball
                    Quick First Step
                    Space Creator
                    Stop & Go
                    Clamps
                    Intimidator

                    Silver:
                    Quick Draw
                    Deadeye
                    Deep Fades

                    Bronze:
                    Pick Dodger
                    Off-Ball Pest
                    Tireless Defender

                    Originally posted by BQ32
                    For the people that really think slashers are the meta I dare you all to go ahead and make a bunch of them in a game of 2k where 3s rain like a hurricane. I will be laughing all the way to the scorebooks with a playmaking sharp. You do you realize you are playing against the CPU on Rookie right?
                    It's not Rookie in the MyPlayer test games, but I do agree with the overall point that what works against the AI in this demo isn't necessarily what will work against other humans in the retail version of the game.
                    Last edited by Yeah...THAT Guy; 08-26-2019, 12:18 PM.
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                    • howardphillips214
                      MVP
                      • Jan 2018
                      • 1928

                      #490
                      Re: Official 2k20 MyPlayer Build Thread.

                      You guys forget that since forever, the taller you are the less ratings matter.

                      Everyone will be short at first, but everyone will be tall later on in the year.

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                      • El_Tercero
                        Pro
                        • Sep 2015
                        • 709

                        #491
                        Re: Official 2k20 MyPlayer Build Thread.

                        Originally posted by howardphillips214
                        You guys forget that since forever, the taller you are the less ratings matter.

                        Everyone will be short at first, but everyone will be tall later on in the year.

                        I feel you my man. 2K has always gave shorter players better attributes when creating MyPlayers. In my opinion, they do this for a reason, because they know that in the game of 2K how much of an advantage you have by having good size. I think I'm going to stick with maxing the height on my SF Defender. I know that I can have Contact Dunks if I'm 6'8 (if I remember correctly). But I'm going to sacrifice that and go with maxing my height at 6'9.

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                        • DakkoN
                          All Star
                          • Sep 2006
                          • 5611

                          #492
                          Re: Official 2k20 MyPlayer Build Thread.

                          Originally posted by howardphillips214
                          You guys forget that since forever, the taller you are the less ratings matter.

                          Everyone will be short at first, but everyone will be tall later on in the year.
                          Exactly.. 2K Labs has shown for multiple years that there are multiple advantages based on height and weight. Taller players get more rebounds just because they're taller, rebound rating be damned. Taller players cover more ground per step, speed ratings be damned. Strength governs MANY things including contact layup and dunk percentages.. Dudes in here acting like the only thing that matters is a numerical value when there are so many advantages to just being one inch taller.
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                          • illwill10
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 19808

                            #493
                            Re: Official 2k20 MyPlayer Build Thread.



                            2kLabs has created a My Player Builder on their website. So for those away from console, you can compare different builds. It doesn't account wingspan or weight, but looks legit

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                            • franzis
                              MVP
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 1451

                              #494
                              Re: Official 2k20 MyPlayer Build Thread.

                              Originally posted by Rain723
                              Yes it should be harder to make a taller player a better ball handler. Think about how rare it is to have a forward who can truly handle the ball. Point forwards aren’t the norm. So if you’re making a non traditional build, how do you expect it to play the same way it traditionally would as a pg? That’d be like me making a defensive pg and complaining that my rebounding and blocks can’t get as high as maybe a center with the same build.
                              I don't think that neither guards who are elite dribblers and can slash and splash 3s are the norm

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                              • franzis
                                MVP
                                • Mar 2008
                                • 1451

                                #495
                                Re: Official 2k20 MyPlayer Build Thread.

                                Originally posted by DakkoN
                                Exactly.. 2K Labs has shown for multiple years that there are multiple advantages based on height and weight. Taller players get more rebounds just because they're taller, rebound rating be damned. Taller players cover more ground per step, speed ratings be damned. Strength governs MANY things including contact layup and dunk percentages.. Dudes in here acting like the only thing that matters is a numerical value when there are so many advantages to just being one inch taller.
                                Probably you are right about rebounds but I never heard, here or from 2klab, that 2k engine takes into account height and lenght of steps in calculating speed

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