2K20 Trade Thread

[Bgrd1080]

Re: 2K20 Trade Thread

Again, it depends on where you are and how realistic you're looking to keep it. The Timberwolves have just traded for Russell and they wouldn't trade KAT. Same with the Rockets having just traded for Russell.

The most realistic way that you'd get a player like that on an expansion team is to draft them. Shouldn't be too hard to tank the first season and get a top 5 pick.

If you don't want to do that and want to trade for a proven guy to kick-start your success, Bradley Beal is the most likely star/superstar to get traded. If the Wizards do trade him then they'll enter a full rebuild so would be very interested in your early lottery picks. You'd probably need to give three of them up to get him.

If not Beal, there are some other guys who could fit the bill, such as:

- Ben Simmons/Joel Embiid: I could see Philly bailing on one or the other for a good deal. They're not working out together.

- Damontas Sabonis: Pacers would probably trade Turner before Sabonis and might even keep them together. He's an offensive centre that can run an offense himself.

- Victor Oladipo: Has been bad since returning from injury and is approaching a contract year. Pacers might flip him but would probably want at least a competent player back.

Chris Paul/John Wall: As an expansion team, you're probably one of the few organisations that could afford to take on one of those contracts, and you probably wouldn't have to give up much to get one.

- Aaron Gordon: Could become something more on a team built around him on which he's the first option. Kind of a reclamation project.

Darius Garland: Disappointed in his rookie season and has been overshadowed by Colin Sexton. Still very young with good upside.

Dennis Smith Jr.: Looked like an exciting prospect on the Mavs. Like Gordon, could turn into something if someone believed in him enough to build a team around him.

I like the Wall or Beal idea. Makes the most sense. Now to decide where I want my expansion team to come from. Starting from the end of the 2020 season. Moving New Orleans to Seattle and building a franchise for the East

[Skuxx24]

Re: 2K20 Trade Thread

Decided to stick at it with the Sixers (I know lol) trying to move that ridiculous contract of Tobias Harris came up with this as a guideline any advise would be appreciated.

76ers get:
Otto Porter
24 2nd Round Pick

Bulls get:
Harris
20 1st round pick

Harris becomes the 2nd/3rd option behind Lavine and get a First round pick back to add another asset while the Sixers get off Harris and get a injured oft 40% career shooter that can spot up and flexibility after year 2.

[Mackrel829]

Re: 2K20 Trade Thread

Decided to stick at it with the Sixers (I know lol) trying to move that ridiculous contract of Tobias Harris came up with this as a guideline any advise would be appreciated.

76ers get:
Otto Porter
24 2nd Round Pick

Bulls get:
Harris
20 1st round pick

Harris becomes the 2nd/3rd option behind Lavine and get a First round pick back to add another asset while the Sixers get off Harris and get a injured oft 40% career shooter that can spot up and flexibility after year 2.

This is an intriguing idea!

Although Porters contract gives them much more flexibility, I think giving up a first for a lesser player is a bit much.

Porter is a better defender than Harris, but Harris is much more versatile and dynamic offensively, and Philly aren't exactly hurting for good defenders.

I think the Bulls would be more than happy to do Porter for Harris straight up, so you could just do that if you wanted. If you want to throw a 2nd or two in with Harris that's probably fine too but a first is way too much.

Harris isn't a max player so his contract is definitely a negative asset, but not to the extent that it would take a first rounder to get off it. Plus he's still in his prime so there's a reasonable chance that he could play like a max player (or at least close to it) over the next few seasons.

[Skuxx24]

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This is an intriguing idea!

Although Porters contract gives them much more flexibility, I think giving up a first for a lesser player is a bit much.

Porter is a better defender than Harris, but Harris is much more versatile and dynamic offensively, and Philly aren't exactly hurting for good defenders.

I think the Bulls would be more than happy to do Porter for Harris straight up, so you could just do that if you wanted. If you want to throw a 2nd or two in with Harris that's probably fine too but a first is way too much.

Harris isn't a max player so his contract is definitely a negative asset, but not to the extent that it would take a first rounder to get off it. Plus he's still in his prime so there's a reasonable chance that he could play like a max player (or at least close to it) over the next few seasons.

Thanks that was kinda of the line of thinking I was going for with Porter can spot up in the corner doesn’t really need the ball to operate and is a better defender.

Plus in a year if it doesn’t work out he become a really good expiring I’ll just add a 2nd so the bulls get something for taking that contract on.

[marshdaddy]

Re: 2K20 Trade Thread

This is an intriguing idea!



Although Porters contract gives them much more flexibility, I think giving up a first for a lesser player is a bit much.



Porter is a better defender than Harris, but Harris is much more versatile and dynamic offensively, and Philly aren't exactly hurting for good defenders.



I think the Bulls would be more than happy to do Porter for Harris straight up, so you could just do that if you wanted. If you want to throw a 2nd or two in with Harris that's probably fine too but a first is way too much.



Harris isn't a max player so his contract is definitely a negative asset, but not to the extent that it would take a first rounder to get off it. Plus he's still in his prime so there's a reasonable chance that he could play like a max player (or at least close to it) over the next few seasons.

I agree this is an intriguing deal. I disagree that a first from Philly isn’t needed. Harris is owed an average of $36m over the next four years and the final year is worth $39m. To take on that much money the Bulls should want a pick back, especially since Porter only has a player option on his deal next season.


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[Skuxx24]

Re: 2K20 Trade Thread

I agree this is an intriguing deal. I disagree that a first from Philly isn’t needed. Harris is owed an average of $36m over the next four years and the final year is worth $39m. To take on that much money the Bulls should want a pick back, especially since Porter only has a player option on his deal next season.


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That’s why I initially added the first that’s a whole lot of money to be owed for a long stretch would a future first be enough top 3 protected? Or what the 20 1st round they have be enough?

[Mackrel829]

Re: 2K20 Trade Thread

I agree this is an intriguing deal. I disagree that a first from Philly isn’t needed. Harris is owed an average of $36m over the next four years and the final year is worth $39m. To take on that much money the Bulls should want a pick back, especially since Porter only has a player option on his deal next season.


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But that would likely mean that no team in the league is willing to take on Harris's contract for a 2nd. I think there are a number of teams that would, so unless Philly valued Porter so highly that they chose to give up a 1st instead (which they probably shouldn't), the Bulls would have to accept a 2nd too.

In fact, if Harris were hitting free agency this year, I think there are a number of teams who would give him the exact contract that he got from Philly, and I think the Bulls are probably one of them.

As I said, Harris isn't a max player, but he's 28 years old and averaged almost 20, 7, and 3 this year. He's a valuable player, even if he doesn't live up to the full value of his contract. By the end of the deal, you'll almost certainly have to give up a first to get off it because his money will have increased while his play will likely decline. Not now though.

[marshdaddy]

Re: 2K20 Trade Thread

But that would likely mean that no team in the league is willing to take on Harris's contract for a 2nd. I think there are a number of teams that would, so unless Philly valued Porter so highly that they chose to give up a 1st instead (which they probably shouldn't), the Bulls would have to accept a 2nd too.



In fact, if Harris were hitting free agency this year, I think there are a number of teams who would give him the exact contract that he got from Philly, and I think the Bulls are probably one of them.



As I said, Harris isn't a max player, but he's 28 years old and averaged almost 20, 7, and 3 this year. He's a valuable player, even if he doesn't live up to the full value of his contract. By the end of the deal, you'll almost certainly have to give up a first to get off it because his money will have increased while his play will likely decline. Not now though.

It’s a fair point. From what I’ve heard on podcasts, most notably Dunc’d On and Hollinger and Duncan, they’ve said teams would be asking for a first if they take on that much money, not only because it’s a lot but because you’re losing almost all of your cap flexibility for a guy who best fits as the fourth/fifth best player on a title team. This is also ignoring the fact that Philly doesn’t really have a ton of picks to give up considering they gave up two firsts just to get him. I don’t see him being traded this offseason, but by the time he is being shopped, which feels inevitable, they’ll need to attach a first.

Another thing to consider is who is more desperate in a deal involving Harris, which impacts what’s included in the deal. I’d say Philly will always be more desperate to trade him away than any team is to trade for him, considering they have so many big contracts over the next 3/4 years. In that case, the other team has leverage to say, you want off that deal, give me a first. Look at the PG trade. Is he worth Shai and all those picks? Absolutely not. But the Clippers were desperate to get him, so OKC really had a blank check on what they asked for in return.


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[knightfall88]

Re: 2K20 Trade Thread

What do you guys think of 76ers trading Joel Embiid to Warriors for #1 pick and Andrew Wiggins?

[georgiafan]

Re: 2K20 Trade Thread

What do you guys think of 76ers trading Joel Embiid to Warriors for #1 pick and Andrew Wiggins?

76ers would need more

[Mackrel829]

Re: 2K20 Trade Thread

76ers would need more

I think I'd agree. It's such an unusual scenario that it's tough to say, but I can't imagine they'd trade Embiid for that. The first overall pick is almost never traded so it's tough to find comparative value examples.

Wiggins has an awful contract, and the 76ers are already a very expensive team. This draft is also generally thought to be one of the weakest in recent years, so the first overall pick has less value than it ordinarily would.

I could see Philly trading either Embiid or Simmons but they could get an absolute haul for one of them from someone if they're willing to trade either. The first overall pick is obviously enticing, but Wiggins doesn't move the needle at all. If anything, he moves it in the wrong direction.

We obviously now have the actual draft order and GSW are picking second but I don't think this really changes the conversation in any way.

[georgiafan]

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I think I'd agree. It's such an unusual scenario that it's tough to say, but I can't imagine they'd trade Embiid for that. The first overall pick is almost never traded so it's tough to find comparative value examples.

Wiggins has an awful contract, and the 76ers are already a very expensive team. This draft is also generally thought to be one of the weakest in recent years, so the first overall pick has less value than it ordinarily would.

I could see Philly trading either Embiid or Simmons but they could get an absolute haul for one of them from someone if they're willing to trade either. The first overall pick is obviously enticing, but Wiggins doesn't move the needle at all. If anything, he moves it in the wrong direction.

We obviously now have the actual draft order and GSW are picking second but I don't think this really changes the conversation in any way.

I could see a horford for Wiggins trade. 76ers get a younger player with upside that isn’t a big man. The warriors get a starting C with a smaller contract years wise to help them win now.

[Mackrel829]

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I could see a horford for Wiggins trade. 76ers get a younger player with upside that isn’t a big man. The warriors get a starting C with a smaller contract years wise to help them win now.

I like that as an idea. Horford woud be great on the Warriors if he played like he did with the Celtics, and a Richardson-Wiggins pairing on the wing could be nice for the 76ers.

There must be something more exciting the Warriors can do with the second pick + Wiggins or the trade exception though lol. This makes sense but is a bit boring.

[marshdaddy]

Re: 2K20 Trade Thread

I like that as an idea. Horford woud be great on the Warriors if he played like he did with the Celtics, and a Richardson-Wiggins pairing on the wing could be nice for the 76ers.

There must be something more exciting the Warriors can do with the second pick + Wiggins or the trade exception though lol. This makes sense but is a bit boring.

I’m not sure it makes a ton of sense. Wiggins contract is bad, but he’s not as old as Horford and should still contribute. His contract and age is also necessary if you’re going star hunting. Horford isn’t.


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[knightfall88]

Re: 2K20 Trade Thread

interesting view on Wiggins. Understand the stats in 2k are not great for Wiggins either.

In reality, I think more highly of Wiggins as an Asset then most. He's 25 with all the untapped potential of a generational #1 pick. He's struggles I believe are all coaching, culture and motivation related.

Anyways on the discussion. The only superstars that you could get for Embiid are ones demanding to leave, don't expect any teams to want to give up their superstars for embiid otherwise.

I'm thinking:
Giannis
Beal

Superstars that I can imagine to be on the block would be Westbrook or Paul George but niether would be enough for embiid straight up I think (because I think they are just outside of what a superstar is)