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  • Caelumfang
    MVP
    • Oct 2012
    • 1218

    #391
    Re: Matchmaking in Rec is awful.

    Originally posted by Kleinevos
    Nothing is going to stop you from doing that when there is a seperate matchmaking for squads of 4 or 5 now is there?

    You can still do your unorthodox ****.
    Just wont be doing it against poor saps who are a ragtag of randoms.


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    Wrong. If you're going into an area where you KNOW there are going to be GUARANTEED SQUADS (sweats and all), there is no room to play unorthodox or run BS lineups, or even relax. At all.

    Sometimes you just want to relax with your boys and play, it's as simple as that. What do I look like going into a try-hard mode if I'm drunk out of my mind? Or BSing around not paying much attention while talking sports or other topics? Come on, think. Not everybody goes into Rec thinking 'easy money.'
    Last edited by Caelumfang; 05-10-2020, 08:51 AM.

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    • Kleinevos
      Pro
      • Nov 2017
      • 599

      #392
      Re: Matchmaking in Rec is awful.

      Originally posted by Caelumfang
      Wrong. If you're going into an area where you KNOW there are going to be GUARANTEED SQUADS (sweats and all), there is no room to play unorthodox or run BS lineups, or even relax. At all.

      Sometimes you just want to relax with your boys and play, it's as simple as that. What do I look like going into a try-hard mode if I'm drunk out of my mind? Or BSing around not paying much attention while talking sports or other topics? Come on, think. Not everybody goes into Rec thinking 'easy money.'

      So WE (as in the people who solo queue) have to put up with people who squad up and beat up a bunch of randoms, and we need to suck it up because “we’re ****”

      But YOU don’t have to put up with squads because you wanna “chill out or try stuff”....

      What a load of selfish entitled bull****.


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      • howardphillips214
        MVP
        • Jan 2018
        • 1928

        #393
        Re: Matchmaking in Rec is awful.

        The simple solution is if you're tired of playing against squads when solo, then make some friends and get a squad of your own.

        But as far as teams playing 5 out and zone, they should have never taken away the teammate grade detractors like "hold ball too long" and "leave assignment".

        If these guys dribbling out the shot clock without passing actually took a hit to their teammate grade, and especially if they made it more harsh, it would help eliminate a bunch of that stuff.

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        • Caelumfang
          MVP
          • Oct 2012
          • 1218

          #394
          Re: Matchmaking in Rec is awful.

          Originally posted by Kleinevos
          So WE (as in the people who solo queue) have to put up with people who squad up and beat up a bunch of randoms, and we need to suck it up because “we’re ****”

          But YOU don’t have to put up with squads because you wanna “chill out or try stuff”....

          What a load of selfish entitled bull****.


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          No, self entitled bull**** is people like you who think a game built on TEAM PLAY should force people to split up and go solo and deal with a bunch of morons because you're tired of getting your **** pushed in. Get out of here with that nonsense.

          If you don't like it, go get a damn squad or stay in Park.

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          • Caelumfang
            MVP
            • Oct 2012
            • 1218

            #395
            Re: Matchmaking in Rec is awful.

            Originally posted by howardphillips214
            The simple solution is if you're tired of playing against squads when solo, then make some friends and get a squad of your own.

            But as far as teams playing 5 out and zone, they should have never taken away the teammate grade detractors like "hold ball too long" and "leave assignment".

            If these guys dribbling out the shot clock without passing actually took a hit to their teammate grade, and especially if they made it more harsh, it would help eliminate a bunch of that stuff.
            THANK YOU! I don't get why it's such a hard concept. If you're tired of dealing with squads or, in my case, dealing with four idiot teammates 90% of the time, GO FIND FRIENDS TO TEAM UP WITH.

            I get the 'hold ball too long' part, trust me. But the 'leave assignment' was taken out because you would IMMEDIATELY take a hit every time you so much as took three steps away from your matchup for some oddball reason and absolutely destroy your grade. Lol, we'd make a joke out of it and just chant 'leave assignment, leave assignment, leave assignment' whenever we had to pick up or switch.

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            • Kleinevos
              Pro
              • Nov 2017
              • 599

              #396
              Re: Matchmaking in Rec is awful.

              Originally posted by Caelumfang
              THANK YOU! I don't get why it's such a hard concept. If you're tired of dealing with squads or, in my case, dealing with four idiot teammates 90% of the time, GO FIND FRIENDS TO TEAM UP WITH.

              I get the 'hold ball too long' part, trust me. But the 'leave assignment' was taken out because you would IMMEDIATELY take a hit every time you so much as took three steps away from your matchup for some oddball reason and absolutely destroy your grade. Lol, we'd make a joke out of it and just chant 'leave assignment, leave assignment, leave assignment' whenever we had to pick up or switch.

              I have made friends to squad up.
              But:
              1) in europe the playerbase is lower
              2) unlike the USA, people here speak a ****load of different languages. I know a few good Portugese players, but communication was impossible because their English was non existent.
              3) language aside, some countries hate eachother so much they wont even play together in a video game.

              So yeah I found people to play with. But not consistently.

              And I don’t mind teaming up with randoms.
              I have a positive win ratio in both park and rec. Even as a solo player.
              I take a look at people’s stats before staying the lobby.
              I can safely say that out of 10 games I play as a random, with randoms, Atleast 7 are enjoyable... IF the other team is just as random.


              Once you end up against a squad though, the enjoyment ends.


              All that being said:
              Why do you adamantly insist on being able to play vs randoms with your squad?
              If you can’t see the hypocrisy in telling me to squad up if I don’t want to play against squads, while you are adamantly against playing against squads with a squad of your own, I feel sad about your lack of logic and reason and I wish you luck with making hamburgers for the rest of your life


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              • kdurantmvp
                Pro
                • Mar 2012
                • 527

                #397
                Re: Matchmaking in Rec is awful.

                Rec is my main game mode. Got about 900 games played in the rec. Got about 250 losses. Now I bet you guys are like damn you faced squads 250 times and lost huh. No. Out of those 250 Ls, only about 100 was of these zone playing squads and out of those 100, 90 of them games came when I didn't have a full squad and the random start selling once they seen the zone.

                I don't blame every loss I took on a squad because truth be told unless they all have their clan name in the psn name or they start the game off in zone, I don't know for sure if they a squad or not. I don't care if they a squad or not. We all play this game for a different reason and if they in the rec, they could be beat. Simple as that. But you guys talk like squads are this unbeatable boss on superman 64.


                Alot of yall just suck at this game. It's as simple as that. This a team based sport. I know alot of you guys don't watch basketball or can't because you live overseas and games come on at 2 am. But basketball is a TEAM sport. You cannot win playing solo. You need to work together as a team and gel together as a team if you want to see success. Some of yall have this attitude that you don't want to make new friends, have no social skills, or just want to get on for one game and play without having to work with a team. Well sorry to say but maybe this game isn't for you. Go play Nascar or golf or something.


                Honestly, I want 2k to softly ban squads fora weekend and I bet the people who was crying about squads will still lose most of the games played in the rec and they'll find something else to cry about.


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                • Caelumfang
                  MVP
                  • Oct 2012
                  • 1218

                  #398
                  Re: Matchmaking in Rec is awful.

                  Originally posted by Kleinevos
                  I have made friends to squad up.
                  But:
                  1) in europe the playerbase is lower
                  2) unlike the USA, people here speak a ****load of different languages. I know a few good Portugese players, but communication was impossible because their English was non existent.
                  3) language aside, some countries hate eachother so much they wont even play together in a video game.

                  So yeah I found people to play with. But not consistently.

                  And I don’t mind teaming up with randoms.
                  I have a positive win ratio in both park and rec. Even as a solo player.
                  I take a look at people’s stats before staying the lobby.
                  I can safely say that out of 10 games I play as a random, with randoms, Atleast 7 are enjoyable... IF the other team is just as random.


                  Once you end up against a squad though, the enjoyment ends.


                  All that being said:
                  Why do you adamantly insist on being able to play vs randoms with your squad?
                  If you can’t see the hypocrisy in telling me to squad up if I don’t want to play against squads, while you are adamantly against playing against squads with a squad of your own, I feel sad about your lack of logic and reason and I wish you luck with making hamburgers for the rest of your life


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                  See, fix that statement: Once you end up against a squad, YOUR enjoyment ends.


                  I'm adamantly insistent on there being multiple modes: One where you can get your doomsquad together and go full-on tryhard mode (Pro-Am), and one where you can team up with a few buddies and ease up for a while and play much more relaxed and unorthodox (Rec). If we run into a doomsquad in Rec every now and again, so be it. Win some, lose some, move on. You either adjust, or catch an L. We're not out here whining and crying about it like you and a few others.


                  The concept that seems so damn difficult for you to understand is NOT EVERY SQUAD THAT GOES INTO REC IS BUILT FOR PRO-AM. Example: I could get on and a few IRL buddies decide they want to play. I know they're not very good, but hey, **** it. So we squad up and jump into Rec for a few games just to BS around. Win a couple, lose one or two. No harm no foul. But you don't seem to understand that, because you seem to think we should be forced to go up against doomsquad after doomsquad. And that goofy idea that you keep presenting wouldn't work because you're still going to run into faaaaar more tryhards in a 4-5 man matchmaking because THAT'S HOW THE 2K COMMUNITY WORKS.
                  Last edited by Caelumfang; 05-10-2020, 10:35 AM.

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                  • Caelumfang
                    MVP
                    • Oct 2012
                    • 1218

                    #399
                    Re: Matchmaking in Rec is awful.

                    Originally posted by kdurantmvp
                    Rec is my main game mode. Got about 900 games played in the rec. Got about 250 losses. Now I bet you guys are like damn you faced squads 250 times and lost huh. No. Out of those 250 Ls, only about 100 was of these zone playing squads and out of those 100, 90 of them games came when I didn't have a full squad and the random start selling once they seen the zone.

                    I don't blame every loss I took on a squad because truth be told unless they all have their clan name in the psn name or they start the game off in zone, I don't know for sure if they a squad or not. I don't care if they a squad or not. We all play this game for a different reason and if they in the rec, they could be beat. Simple as that. But you guys talk like squads are this unbeatable boss on superman 64.


                    Alot of yall just suck at this game. It's as simple as that. This a team based sport. I know alot of you guys don't watch basketball or can't because you live overseas and games come on at 2 am. But basketball is a TEAM sport. You cannot win playing solo. You need to work together as a team and gel together as a team if you want to see success. Some of yall have this attitude that you don't want to make new friends, have no social skills, or just want to get on for one game and play without having to work with a team. Well sorry to say but maybe this game isn't for you. Go play Nascar or golf or something.


                    Honestly, I want 2k to softly ban squads fora weekend and I bet the people who was crying about squads will still lose most of the games played in the rec and they'll find something else to cry about.


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                    I couldn't have said it any better myself.

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                    • tru11
                      MVP
                      • Aug 2010
                      • 1816

                      #400
                      Re: Matchmaking in Rec is awful.

                      Originally posted by Caelumfang
                      Just stop, homie. You literally have no clue what you’re talking about. We don’t take Rec seriously, we go out there to BS around without having to be on edge every single game against the same two sweaty strategies (5-out or 3 out with the PG dancing back and forth behind screens) in Pro-Am.

                      And FYI, literally the only time we run a zone is when we come up against a squad that begins running it first, just to irritate them.


                      You can do that against other full squads.

                      So splitting full squads from solo would not affect you whatsoever.

                      So why are you really against this?

                      Btw i said full squads.
                      That means squads of 5 players.
                      Not 2 not 3 not 4 but 5.
                      5 players in a squad and not 1 less.






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                      • Caelumfang
                        MVP
                        • Oct 2012
                        • 1218

                        #401
                        Re: Matchmaking in Rec is awful.

                        Originally posted by tru11
                        You can do that against other full squads.

                        So splitting full squads from solo would not affect you whatsoever.

                        So why are you really against this?

                        Btw i said full squads.
                        That means squads of 5 players.
                        Not 2 not 3 not 4 but 5.
                        5 players in a squad and not 1 less.






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                        I'll tell you just like I told the other guy: Not every squad is built for Pro-Am. Example: I could get on and a few IRL buddies decide they want to play. I know they're not very good, but hey, **** it. So we squad up and jump into Rec for a few games just to BS around. Win a couple, lose one or two. No harm no foul.


                        These are dudes that I would never take anywhere NEAR tryhard squads. Like kdurantmvp said: We all play this game for a different reason and if they in the rec, they could be beat. Simple as that. But you guys talk like squads are this unbeatable boss on superman 64.

                        You don't know if so-and-so squaded up with some IRL buddies who aren't good at all and just wants to run a couple quick games. But you want to force them to get thrown into the fire immediately, in order to make yourself feel better. Hell, it's funny, some of the teams YOU beat up on ARE squads, they just look like randoms because aren't very good. They can catch some wins here or there, but they're out there for the fun of it. If you force some far more casual players into modes where it's doomsquad after doomsquad after tryhard team, a lot of them are going to lose interest in the game. But if they run into a tryhard team every once in a while, they'll be more prone to say 'Ah well, next.'

                        You keep thinking I'm referring to my own interests, when I'm advocating for letting lesser squads and those who want to just relax and take it easy play the Rec teamed up with their buddies. Not be forced into nearly breaking their controller after almost every single game.

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                        • Kleinevos
                          Pro
                          • Nov 2017
                          • 599

                          #402
                          Re: Matchmaking in Rec is awful.

                          Originally posted by Caelumfang
                          I.

                          . Hell, it's funny, some of the teams YOU beat up on ARE squads, they just look like randoms because aren't very good.
                          Well then what we propose ain’t so bad then?

                          Us solo players can random up and play vs randoms.
                          And you and your squad buddies who are not good enough for proam, can play vs these squads that don’t look like squads because they’re trash.

                          I don’t see why you’re making a problem.

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                          • howardphillips214
                            MVP
                            • Jan 2018
                            • 1928

                            #403
                            Re: Matchmaking in Rec is awful.

                            Originally posted by Kleinevos
                            I have made friends to squad up.
                            But:
                            1) in europe the playerbase is lower
                            2) unlike the USA, people here speak a ****load of different languages. I know a few good Portugese players, but communication was impossible because their English was non existent.
                            3) language aside, some countries hate eachother so much they wont even play together in a video game.

                            So yeah I found people to play with. But not consistently.

                            And I don’t mind teaming up with randoms.
                            I have a positive win ratio in both park and rec. Even as a solo player.
                            I take a look at people’s stats before staying the lobby.
                            I can safely say that out of 10 games I play as a random, with randoms, Atleast 7 are enjoyable... IF the other team is just as random.


                            Once you end up against a squad though, the enjoyment ends.


                            All that being said:
                            Why do you adamantly insist on being able to play vs randoms with your squad?
                            If you can’t see the hypocrisy in telling me to squad up if I don’t want to play against squads, while you are adamantly against playing against squads with a squad of your own, I feel sad about your lack of logic and reason and I wish you luck with making hamburgers for the rest of your life


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                            Not sure if it still works. But there are ways to get yourself to load in an American neighborhood. We used to set our Country settings in your account to China and Mexico. We did it just to goof around. But you could use an American proxy, all different types of things.

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                            • Caelumfang
                              MVP
                              • Oct 2012
                              • 1218

                              #404
                              Re: Matchmaking in Rec is awful.

                              Originally posted by Kleinevos
                              Well then what we propose ain’t so bad then?

                              Us solo players can random up and play vs randoms.
                              And you and your squad buddies who are not good enough for proam, can play vs these squads that don’t look like squads because they’re trash.

                              I don’t see why you’re making a problem.
                              Okay, let me ask you something then: If you put in a mode that only allows squads, what do you think it’ll attract more of? Casual squads, or hardcore squads? Hm?

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                              • Kleinevos
                                Pro
                                • Nov 2017
                                • 599

                                #405
                                Re: Matchmaking in Rec is awful.

                                Originally posted by Caelumfang
                                Okay, let me ask you something then: If you put in a mode that only allows squads, what do you think it’ll attract more of? Casual squads, or hardcore squads? Hm?

                                Well the hardcore ones should go to proam wouldn’t you agree?


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