Matchmaking in Rec is awful.

[Caelumfang]

Re: Matchmaking in Rec is awful.

I'm sorry, but that's the price you pay running with randoms in ANY multiplayer game. Some people are good. Some people suck. However, most players should be in the middle. That's how online multiplayer games work. Then who are you to "correct" someone online? I wish someone would try to "correct" me online. You have to play with the cards you're dealt. If you don't like that, then clans and squads are for you. However, you shouldn't be allowed to "beat-up" on randoms like it's some type of Revenge Tour.

The only "teammates" that bother me are the ones who intentionally try to grieve the game.

See, you come off as one of those stubborn players. It ain’t about me trying to insult you, it’s like ‘Bro, you took 3 contested shots with wide open teammates around you. What are you doing? Let’s try to win here’ type of stuff. Not ‘You trash! What the ****!’ Believe it or not, some will say ‘Yo my bad’ and fix what they’re doing.

You gotta be willing to sometimes take criticism. Hell, there may be a time or two where I may not realize what I’m doing, and I’ll try to correct it if somebody points it out. Now if you’re a jackass about it, I’ll throw this **** from half court.

[ksuttonjr76]

Re: Matchmaking in Rec is awful.

Wait...so squads that aren't good enough should have to face comp squads just because you don't want to even face the squads that aren't good. So other people should suffer and not have fun because you decide you don't want to play as the game intended and as a team.


And that's where the problem lays. One side is going to have to suffer. Either squads that belong in the rec cause they not good enough to play pro am or maybe don't want to play comp or randoms like yourself that think they should be able to play a team based mode solo and expect good results from doing so.


Which is why I say give players a reason to play pro am instead of rec instead of forcing them into the pro am. There is no reason to play pro am over the rec because it's just not worth it. Make it so pro am games get more rep even when you lose and a bunch of those squads are leaving rec that instant.


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I never said face other "comp" squads. I said face OTHER squads. Whether or not you all win is totally dependent on YOUR squad. What part of that are you NOT UNDERSTANDING??? I'm NOT saying squads have to play other Pro-Am or highly ranked squads. I'm SAYING that they SHOULDN'T have the benefit of beating up random teams to stroke their egos. That's like me getting me get all my badges as a "solo" player, but not increasing my overall just so I can have a matchup advantage 99% of the time.

Also, I'm not getting your whole stupid "not play as a team" argument. It's basketball! Even as a random/solo, I still have to figure out how to build chemistry with my teammates. Unless the other team REALLY sucks, there's no freaking way that I'm going to carry a team by myself to a win.

[ksuttonjr76]

Re: Matchmaking in Rec is awful.

See, you come off as one of those stubborn players. It ain’t about me trying to insult you, it’s like ‘Bro, you took 3 contested shots with wide open teammates around you. What are you doing? Let’s try to win here’ type of stuff. Not ‘You trash! What the ****!’ Believe it or not, some will say ‘Yo my bad’ and fix what they’re doing.

You gotta be willing to sometimes take criticism. Hell, there may be a time or two where I may not realize what I’m doing, and I’ll try to correct it if somebody points it out. Now if you’re a jackass about it, I’ll throw this **** from half court.

Yeah...I'm not in the business of babysitting my teammates. If they have the IQ, they'll figure it out. If not, then I'll freeze them out for 1-3 possessions and/or force my will on the game somehow.

[kdurantmvp]

Re: Matchmaking in Rec is awful.

And let's say if 2k do make the change to 5 stacks vs 5 stacks only.


All that's going to be different is most of you guys turning your attention to the "4 man squads" then 2k will change it again and then folks will complain about "3 man squads" and then finally people will complain about 2 man squads(actually had someone on reddit complain that that's an unfair advantage as well and we should have to get 3 people from the park and play pro am to leave rec strictly for randoms)


I for one wish 2k would release the numbers on how many 5 man squads it really be in the rec and the chances of facing them because like I said... I play rec just as much as anybody and rarely come across these elusive squads you guys speak of.


But I got a question. What's the difference between the squads who come to the rec because they don't want to face comp and you guys complaining that you have to face these squads which is comp in comparison?. Both sides want to avoid comp but yet the squads should be the one to have to adjust their game in a team based game and not the solo folks who don't want to find people to play with


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[YungGun]

Re: Matchmaking in Rec is awful.

Just played a played a fun game of rec with randoms against 2 squads. 1 squad was SS2+ and the other were some scrubs. It's a fun challenge as a PG trying to slice up their defenses with passes, but it is tedious as hell. The passing lane animations bail out spammers entirely too much. Still had fun and didn't take any losses tho.

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[ImInThis]

Re: Matchmaking in Rec is awful.

Basketball actually does require communication like a game like rainbow 6.

This game isn't like other games. This is a team based sport where teams are playing a team based mode (squads coming into the rec). They are not exploiting the game to get their squad in the game, they aren't glitching. They're just playing the game how it's intended to be played. You cannot get upset that you are stubborn and don't want to actually meet people to succeed in a team based sport. You guys get on here and reddit all day crying about squads when you could be using that same energy to find people you can play with.


The rec has been allowing 5 stacks to come in the mode since 2k17. The 2k team(Ld2k for sure) themselves go into the rec with 5 people. It's not changing. Deal with it. Instead of crying on the internet, how about make post looking for people to roll with? Send request out to those who do be in the rec with a semblance of IQ.? Stop crying.

And once again, the truth is 5 man squads are not that often in the rec. So all this crying you guys doing and it's not even 5 stacks whooping yall.


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Your post is very flawed.

1)Some of these Pro Am teams are elite teams. Sure you can find guys to play with, but they're better be good, which brings me to point #2

2)Not everybody can be on at the same time and play All day everyday.

3)Not everyone wants to play against sweaty tryhards. Not everyone wants to play the 5 Out and Zone meta. Some people just want a fun game with a little competition.

Sure we can find people to play with, I get a lot of invites of people wanting me to join. But I just want to sit and play. I can't imagine playing Pro Am teams all day everyday, even if I had my own team. Are you crazy??

[kdurantmvp]

Re: Matchmaking in Rec is awful.

Your post is very flawed.

1)Some of these Pro Am teams are elite teams. Sure you can find guys to play with, but they're better be good, which brings me to point #2

2)Not everybody can be on at the same time and play All day everyday.

3)Not everyone wants to sweaty tryhards. Not everyone wants to play the 5 Out and Zone meta. Some people just want a fun game with a little competition.

I can't imagine playing Pro Am teams all day everyday, even if I had my own team. Are you crazy??

Ummmmm Idk if you replying to the right persk. But I said the same thing in earlier post. Not everyone wants to play comp and that's why they in the rec


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[ImInThis]

Re: Matchmaking in Rec is awful.

I think the best thing to do would be a Solo Only Rec and Team Rec

Team Rec should be random. Some squads you face could be bad, some squads you face can be good. There should be a Win Counter. The more wins in a row you rack up the harder teams you face until you lose and your win counter is reset. This way you aren't playing sweaty teams all the time.

[ksuttonjr76]

Re: Matchmaking in Rec is awful.

And let's say if 2k do make the change to 5 stacks vs 5 stacks only.


All that's going to be different is most of you guys turning your attention to the "4 man squads" then 2k will change it again and then folks will complain about "3 man squads" and then finally people will complain about 2 man squads(actually had someone on reddit complain that that's an unfair advantage as well and we should have to get 3 people from the park and play pro am to leave rec strictly for randoms)


I for one wish 2k would release the numbers on how many 5 man squads it really be in the rec and the chances of facing them because like I said... I play rec just as much as anybody and rarely come across these elusive squads you guys speak of.


But I got a question. What's the difference between the squads who come to the rec because they don't want to face comp and you guys complaining that you have to face these squads which is comp in comparison?. Both sides want to avoid comp but yet the squads should be the one to have to adjust their game in a team based game and not the solo folks who don't want to find people to play with


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Smh...not one person has complained about 2-3 men squads. For those advocating moving squads, the point of discussion has been the cut-off whether it should be at 4 or 5.

However, I really would wish you stop the weak argument of trying to say that squads are on equal talent and chemistry as a team of complete randoms.

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[loso_34]

Re: Matchmaking in Rec is awful.

i think they’ll address it next year because its getting out of hand lol.

go check a twitch stream right now i guarantee you’ll find some elite with a squad in rec up 50. im in a discord chat where some elites will only run with 92 and under teammates to beat “bums” as they say.

no heart and they’ll never improve if they dont face better players.

[kdurantmvp]

Re: Matchmaking in Rec is awful.

Smh...not one person has complained about 2-3 men squads. For those advocating moving squads, the point of discussion has been the cut-off whether it should be at 4 or 5.

However, I really would wish you stop the weak argument of trying to say that squads are on equal talent and chemistry as a team of complete randoms.

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I never tried to make that argument of equal talent, I have said more times than not that most solo players are trash. And it's okay to have a team with a big advantage over another since it's basketball and that's the whole point of the sport. To gain an advantage over the other team to win.

And maybe not on here but on reddit, there were definitely people complaining about squads of 2-3. But my point of bringing that up is once you ban 5mans, people are going to complain about 4 man squads, then 3 man squads, and then 2 man squads.

The best option to deal with squads in the rec is like I said before. Increase the rep awarded in pro am to the point where even if you lose, you gain more rep than if you trash randoms in the rec in a W. Give better rewards in pro am. Sponsorships, play books, more customization for the uniforms. More vc. More badge points. Give players a reason to play pro am and not just force them into it with no reward. Make the courts bigger so zone defense isnt so OP, punish those who spam square and have them foul whoever close to tthem.


All of that does two things, get 90% of the 5 man squads out the rec (because let's be honest, you will still have those in the rec trying to cheese against bums) and making the courts bigger just benefits everyone and punishing square spammers would stop all that reaching from the ones that's still going to be in the rec spamming square and playing zone.

Now for the regular 5 man squads(the ones who don't zone up and spam, just 5 friends who chilling) who feel like they aren't good enough to face comp. They could either go in pro am and actually benefit for doing so win or lose or they could stay in the rec but for the most part, they are very beatable and I don't see why folks would hate them for playing rec.

Removing 90% of the squads benefit players like yourself who play solo because with so many squads gone, you randoms would mostly get games featuring more randoms and not against 5 man squads.


See how everybody benefits by not forcing anybody to do what they don't want to with these ideas? See how players who play basketball as its intended and that's as a team get incentivized? See how solo players get benefited. Players who aren't good but in a squad benefits. The only people it doesn't benefit is pro am teams who keep their players at 92 just to face bums and then go in the rec and play zone and spam but who cares about them to be honest.


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[tru11]

Re: Matchmaking in Rec is awful.

Double xp in rec.

Played 10 games.

7 against stacks lol

If funny cause if you get a game against randoms and win you are pretty much guaranteed to meet a stack.

Kudos to most randoms though for rarely quitting.




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[ksuttonjr76]

Re: Matchmaking in Rec is awful.

Double xp in rec.

Played 10 games.

7 against stacks lol

If funny cause if you get a game against randoms and win you are pretty much guaranteed to meet a stack.

Kudos to most randoms though for rarely quitting.




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Man, I never quit. I don't care if I'm the last person standing and getting crushed by 40 points. I'll never give anyone free wins.

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[tru11]

Re: Matchmaking in Rec is awful.

Man, I never quit. I don't care if I'm the last person standing and getting crushed by 40 points. I'll never give anyone free wins.

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Same here.

I usually end up alone by half time.

Guess the xp gave people reason to stick around lol


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[kdurantmvp]

Re: Matchmaking in Rec is awful.

Played 8 games today in the rec..

None against 5 stacks.

Got sold by randoms in all games but the other teams were trash thankfully.

7-1.

Can't wait till the guys get on so I don't have to deal with randoms


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