2K please Show More Love To Classic Teams/Players in 2K23

[Real2KInsider]

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Money.

Essentially it comes down to elite sports personalities or formers players who are mostly millionaires anyway, or far wealthier than an average person, wanting MORE money for being in a video game.

Which they deserve.

There's entitlement in this post, but it isn't from the players.

[daveberg]

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Which they deserve.

There's entitlement in this post, but it isn't from the players.

Yep. I'm sure we can handle it though.

I can understand their demands if they were on the bread line, looking to make a living off it, but they're not. A lot of them no doubt have more money than most people could dream of, yet still fuss over monetary rights for their likeness in a video game.

I think most of us know they won't go broke over night if 2k offer them a minimum figure.

Greed isn't pretty.

If I were in their shoes, I'd do it for whatever they offered and leave it at that. I'd already have more money than I knew what to do with anyway, so it's of little consequence, financially.

[zello144]

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Yep. I'm sure we can handle it though.

I can understand their demands if they were on the bread line, looking to make a living off it, but they're not. A lot of them no doubt have more money than most people could dream of, yet still fuss over monetary rights for their likeness in a video game.

I think most of us know they won't go broke over night if 2k offer them a minimum figure.

Greed isn't pretty.

If I were in their shoes, I'd do it for whatever they offered and leave it at that. I'd already have more money than I knew what to do with anyway, so it's of little consequence, financially.

Depends on who it is. Former stars should be fine but bench players who made league minimum and guys who were bad with money of which there were a lot of in the 2000s need the money a bit more.

[Hey_Rebby]

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How much money does 2K pay retired players for their NIL rights to be on the game? It always boggles my mind why a player would chose to decline the offer. I would understand if there were 1-3 other NBA video games being made and they would go to the one with the highest offer. But there's not. Barkley, Reggie, Sheed, are big names. Maybe they feel entitled to more than the offer. But you have guys like Raja Bell and Tayshaun Prince who aren't in the game. I don't get it for the lesser known players. Your choices are take the offer and receive money for your NIL, receive $0.

Doesn't make sense.

[KobeDropped81]

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I understand guys needing money….But me personally? I’d be so incredibly honored just to be in a game to where I’d probably do it for free. Especially if I’m a Reggie Miller or Charles Barkley, who already makes a fortune post-playing career. Just to have my greatness exposed to a younger generation would be enough for me.

[zten11]

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I understand guys needing money….But me personally? I’d be so incredibly honored just to be in a game to where I’d probably do it for free. Especially if I’m a Reggie Miller or Charles Barkley, who already makes a fortune post-playing career. Just to have my greatness exposed to a younger generation would be enough for me.

Fact of the matter is it's probably not happening anytime soon. I wish 2K hired specialized roster makers so it didn't have to feel like such a haul for us, and I'm not even talking current roster.

[KobeDropped81]

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Fact of the matter is it's probably not happening anytime soon. I wish 2K hired specialized roster makers so it didn't have to feel like such a haul for us, and I'm not even talking current roster.

I agree, I hate having to go through the hassle of putting together rosters every year. But tbh, if they won’t put the effort into making rosters as accurate as possible or pay these legends to be in game. Then at the very least they need to give us better tools to do it ourselves, more efficiently and less time consuming. Better player creation customization. Better court and arena customization. Easier attribute and tendency editing. Etc etc …I wish they would give us like 10-15 slots to create our own teams to use in play now.

[zello144]

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I understand guys needing money….But me personally? I’d be so incredibly honored just to be in a game to where I’d probably do it for free. Especially if I’m a Reggie Miller or Charles Barkley, who already makes a fortune post-playing career. Just to have my greatness exposed to a younger generation would be enough for me.

A lot of those guys are old and probably don't play video games.

[Real2KInsider]

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Greed isn't pretty.

Wanting everything without giving anything is the definition of greed.

Big difference between "Greed" and "Compensation for services rendered".

If I were in their shoes

But you're not. You were never at the top 0.0001% of your craft or demanded by thousands, much less millions. Nobody wants to play Dave2K.

I'd do it for whatever they offered and leave it at that. I'd already have more money than I knew what to do with anyway, so it's of little consequence, financially.

Things sure are easy in made up fantasy land.

The NBA gets 1.1 Billion dollars for allowing 2K to make this game. But it's the players making money where you draw the line. Lol.

[Real2KInsider]

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I understand guys needing money….But me personally? I’d be so incredibly honored just to be in a game to where I’d probably do it for free.

Doctors should be "honored" to cure patients and make the world a better place. That isn't the world we live in.

Players have the same costs of living as everyone else.

[daveberg]

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Wanting everything without giving anything is the definition of greed.

Big difference between "Greed" and "Compensation for services rendered".



But you're not. You were never at the top 0.0001% of your craft or demanded by thousands, much less millions. Nobody wants to play Dave2K.



Things sure are easy in made up fantasy land.

The NBA gets 1.1 Billion dollars for allowing 2K to make this game. But it's the players making money where you draw the line. Lol.

'Services rendered' - You mean just having their likeness in a video game, demanding ridiculous amounts of money for doing absolutely nothing but allowing their cyberface & name to be included. Ok then......

We all know what the definition of greed is, no-one asked for the breakdown, but thanks.

So millionaires who essentially want for nothing, financially, want to dig their heels in and demand more massive payouts to add to their already ridiculous stockpile of cash. Sounds like greed to me.

'top 0.0001% of your craft' - It's a hypothetical scenario, bub. Step outside the box and put yourself in their shoes. I assume from your candour you'd simply ask for the big bucks as you feel far too important to be given the standard payout.

Massive generalisation that no-one would want to play Dave2k. How would you know? You might like it.

Who said that's where I draw the line? I'm simply focusing on the players, as per the topic of discussion here, but thanks for the assumption.

[Real2KInsider]

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'Services rendered' - You mean just having their likeness in a video game, demanding ridiculous amounts of money for doing absolutely nothing but allowing their cyberface & name to be included. Ok then......

Ah yes, on that note artists shouldn't be paid for having their songs used on the track. They already put in the work, they didn't have to show up anywhere. It's pure greed that they want money for it. They should just be happy to be used by a corporate entity that generates billions in profit.

This is what you're spewing.

We all know what the definition of greed is

You apparently don't, so let's head to Google.

intense and selfish desire for something, especially wealth, power, or food.

Your belief that players should bend to your whims is a selfish desire. That they're not people. That they exist PURELY for your entertainment.

Expecting a paycheck for one's body of work isn't greed.

So millionaires who essentially want for nothing, financially

Lol. How did they become millionaires? Next you're going to say they should be honored to bounce a ball for a living. One simply doesn't maintain being that by working the next 40 years pro-bono.

It's a hypothetical scenario, bub.

You should try dealing in actual, objective scenarios.

Massive generalisation that no-one would want to play Dave2k.

NBA 2K sold 8 million units this year.

Who said that's where I draw the line? I'm simply focusing on the players, as per the topic of discussion here, but thanks for the assumption.

TLDR: Every thing should be free.

[Champy123]

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I think besides the players that are not in the game, 2K should AT the VERY least update the offline rosters with the players and coaches they have rights to for in myTEAM.

I understand getting players’ rights, specifically old and retired players is getting difficult but come on 2K. Updating the offline rosters with the assets you guys have doesn’t take any money. With the new season starting tomorrow, I feel it’s about time to release those assets offline. Let’s get this done

[Real2KInsider]

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Updating the offline rosters with the assets you guys have doesn’t take any money.

It technically does. Updating the offline roster = labor hours. It would take a full day (or more) to update the roster in the manner folks are asking. This comes at the expense of the time they've budgeted out on other tasks. The primary goal from upper management is the release of next year's game and the completion of all assets related to that.

It should be noted that this year saw the least amount of work put into the in-game roster relative to the last decade. Badges weren't updated leaguewide for the first time in 5 years. That should be a much higher priority than the Classics. There is plenty of backlog to go around.

There's likely a lot going on behind the scenes that we don't know about. 2K is hardly the most transparent company.

[Champy123]

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It technically does. Updating the offline roster = labor hours. It would take a full day (or more) to update the roster in the manner folks are asking. This comes at the expense of the time they've budgeted out on other tasks. The primary goal from upper management is the release of next year's game and the completion of all assets related to that.

It should be noted that this year saw the least amount of work put into the in-game roster relative to the last decade. Badges weren't updated leaguewide for the first time in 5 years. That should be a much higher priority than the Classics. There is plenty of backlog to go around.

There's likely a lot going on behind the scenes that we don't know about. 2K is hardly the most transparent company.

My theory to why 2K hasn’t updated the offline rosters is more so where to put some of these players. Excluding a few who have year specific teams to be added to: Jeremy Lin, Tyson Chandler, Pau Gasol, etc.
I am guessing the remaining players and coaches literally have no team to be added to. It has been more than two years since 2K had touched anything historic related for their offline rosters. The All Time Teams and historic teams are identical to their 2K21 roster.

I guess at this point it’s either they dump the players into free agency or waiting for 2K23 to add more historic teams.

And on the point above about money, if there is someone working on updating the current rosters and players, I mean I don’t know how labor intensive the process is but dumping the players ya’ll got rights to can’t be THAT time consuming. For me it is just ridiculous I have to invest time into myTEAM to use some of the players they don’t have offline