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  • daveberg
    MVP
    • Sep 2008
    • 2788

    #61
    Re: 2K please Show More Love To Classic Teams/Players in 2K23

    Originally posted by Real2KInsider
    You're vilifying men for controlling their image and deciding their own worth (something you can't comprehend, because you're a lesser man who will never have that type of control/opportunity).

    You sit here playing the victim acting like they're stealing from your food stores. Sorry, but there isn't an NBA player alive who owes you a damn thing.

    Let's also not pretend you wouldn't be a wide-eyed silent mouse if you ever met one of these "greedy" people.

    Round and round we go....hold on tight folks. This ride isn't stopping anytime soon, 2k Insider has just put more quarters in the slot.

    Vilifying people for greed? You're damn right. You should re-evaluate your life choices if you think what they're doing is acceptable.

    Your retorts are at this point, simply reaching, in order for you to continue to have your precious last word. No-one claimed anyone owes me anything.

    Oh and as for the wide eyed mouse thing? Tut tut - Did you use the word 'pretend'? I didn't think you dealt with hypotheticals? Something about 'Candy land' I believe, were your words.....whoopsie. I'd get a grip on your stance, if I were you.

    You talk of being a 'lesser man' yet here you are, illustrating to everyone that your apparent over inflated ego refuses to let go of a trivial disagreement & continue to throw barbs in my direction. Poor fella, being this bothered over someone else's views. Stress isn't good for the soul.

    I told you, I'll play passive aggressive virtual tennis with you all day, but difference being, I can acknowledge this is a complete waste of time, and pretty futile. It can end, but it takes you to be a better person to simply call it a day, instead of continuing to take petty shots over a difference of opinion. You instigated this mess, you can end it.

    But you won't. You're not up to it because it'll hurt your misplaced virtual pride. From most of your interactions on here, I don't think I've ever seen you step up to the plate and be the bigger man, and civilly end an impasse. You just keep throwing your dummy out the pram and stamping your feet, throwing more shade in the hopes the other person will concede and agree with you or give in. You folks are a dime a dozen on the grand ol' interwebs.

    Makes for good entertainment though, so at least that's one small constructive thing you've given us outside of a mostly pointless experience.

    Now.....again - shall we put this to bed and move on? It's not hard to do. Give it a whirl. You think one way, I think another- engage a little civility and everyone can get on with the thread in hand.

    Enjoy your Friday.
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    • VDusen04
      Hall Of Fame
      • Aug 2003
      • 13025

      #62
      Re: 2K please Show More Love To Classic Teams/Players in 2K23

      Thought I'd bop into the 2K Forum this morning and talk a little classic teams.

      But, alas, this thread is an unmitigated disaster.

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      • daveberg
        MVP
        • Sep 2008
        • 2788

        #63
        Re: 2K please Show More Love To Classic Teams/Players in 2K23

        Originally posted by VDusen04
        Thought I'd bop into the 2K Forum this morning and talk a little classic teams.

        But, alas, this thread is an unmitigated disaster.
        Isn't it just! As I said earlier, I sincerely apologize from my end for the derailment. It's not constructive in the least, but I have tried several times now to end the nonsense.

        Anyway - with that said, at least the rest of us can formulate civil discussion.

        what's your take on all the classics at this stage, V? I don't think I'm far off the mark in saying hopes for vast improvements or additions are on the cards anytime soon, not with the focus on online gaming and 2k clawing in cash for fantasy modes etc etc.

        I'm still having a blast with 2k20, and am managing to squeeze every last drop of classic team enjoyment out of that, but am leaning to making a step back to 2k14 on the PC again, just so I can immerse myself with the UBR roster and its plethora of retro seasons.
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        • dlxsf18
          Rookie
          • Jul 2013
          • 184

          #64
          Re: 2K please Show More Love To Classic Teams/Players in 2K23

          Simply put it would be a waste of resources to allocate additional effort into any more classic teams on account of the fact that you guys asking for that stuff will never be fully satisfied regardless . There is a very simple and common sense explanation as to why they can’t get ‘85 Michael to look the way the current players do , and the same goes for penny/shaq/bird/ etc.

          It would be much more useful for the time and money spent on trying to get a Charles Barkley into the game to be spent on licensing current teams and players into the game such as G league squads and the top sides around Europe . Not only would it contribute to the game in terms of making Franchise/MyTeam a more robust and accurate experience, there would be much more revenue generated from the addition of having these rosters/stadiums/scans in the game

          Imagine if you could sign free agents from Real Madrid or fenerbache to your Knicks save , or if you could alternate playing games between your NBA team and their G League affiliate . If it’s possible for you to do that in MLB the Show then you should absolutely be able to do it in 2K , but having those teams and players scanned with their corresponding stadiums would truly take this game to the next level . I would sacrifice every single classic team and player in the game if that would make what ive suggested a reality

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          • KobeDropped81
            Banned
            • Nov 2017
            • 753

            #65
            Re: 2K please Show More Love To Classic Teams/Players in 2K23

            Originally posted by dlxsf18
            Simply put it would be a waste of resources to allocate additional effort into any more classic teams on account of the fact that you guys asking for that stuff will never be fully satisfied regardless . There is a very simple and common sense explanation as to why they can’t get ‘85 Michael to look the way the current players do , and the same goes for penny/shaq/bird/ etc.

            It would be much more useful for the time and money spent on trying to get a Charles Barkley into the game to be spent on licensing current teams and players into the game such as G league squads and the top sides around Europe . Not only would it contribute to the game in terms of making Franchise/MyTeam a more robust and accurate experience, there would be much more revenue generated from the addition of having these rosters/stadiums/scans in the game

            Imagine if you could sign free agents from Real Madrid or fenerbache to your Knicks save , or if you could alternate playing games between your NBA team and their G League affiliate . If it’s possible for you to do that in MLB the Show then you should absolutely be able to do it in 2K , but having those teams and players scanned with their corresponding stadiums would truly take this game to the next level . I would sacrifice every single classic team and player in the game if that would make what ive suggested a reality
            You would sacrifice historic players for G-League players. LOL. That is an absolute ludicrous idea. I say this in the most respectful way possible.
            Last edited by KobeDropped81; 05-20-2022, 04:12 PM.

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            • daveberg
              MVP
              • Sep 2008
              • 2788

              #66
              Re: 2K please Show More Love To Classic Teams/Players in 2K23

              Originally posted by dlxsf18
              Simply put it would be a waste of resources to allocate additional effort into any more classic teams on account of the fact that you guys asking for that stuff will never be fully satisfied regardless . There is a very simple and common sense explanation as to why they can’t get ‘85 Michael to look the way the current players do , and the same goes for penny/shaq/bird/ etc.

              It would be much more useful for the time and money spent on trying to get a Charles Barkley into the game to be spent on licensing current teams and players into the game such as G league squads and the top sides around Europe . Not only would it contribute to the game in terms of making Franchise/MyTeam a more robust and accurate experience, there would be much more revenue generated from the addition of having these rosters/stadiums/scans in the game

              Imagine if you could sign free agents from Real Madrid or fenerbache to your Knicks save , or if you could alternate playing games between your NBA team and their G League affiliate . If it’s possible for you to do that in MLB the Show then you should absolutely be able to do it in 2K , but having those teams and players scanned with their corresponding stadiums would truly take this game to the next level . I would sacrifice every single classic team and player in the game if that would make what ive suggested a reality
              Not sure about you, but I'm an old head, and am completely opposite in terms of ideals for the game.

              I'd happily sacrifice every single current team and all online modes, just to be able to fund classic teams. Despite not being financially feasible, nor targeting the ideal demographic, it'd sure make me satisfied. One can only dream.

              Thing is, in spite of the pleading and fantasizing, classic teams are dead. 2K's money making machine understandably takes precedence over everything else, and that's where they channel their time and resources. It's just how it is now. Little Timmy giving them cash to buy his virtual clothes to use online is always gonna fill pockets.
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              • The 24th Letter
                ERA
                • Oct 2007
                • 39373

                #67
                2K please Show More Love To Classic Teams/Players in 2K23

                It may not be as often as wanted, but Classic teams still see new additions and likeness updates.

                Meanwhile PNO hasn’t seen an actual change in 5 years…That mode is DEAD.

                Y’all gotta use a different word, lol

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                • zello144
                  MVP
                  • Jul 2013
                  • 2183

                  #68
                  Re: 2K please Show More Love To Classic Teams/Players in 2K23

                  Originally posted by The 24th Letter
                  Y’all gotta use a different word, lol
                  Life support

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                  • AIRJ23
                    MVP
                    • Apr 2021
                    • 2789

                    #69
                    Re: 2K please Show More Love To Classic Teams/Players in 2K23

                    You have to tweak some of the players, edit some move sets maybe, edit some accessories, change shoes, adjust attributes and tendencies (mid range and 3 tendencies are way off for some players) and I find it’s more immersive when you put them on EXISTING team rosters and just use the classic jerseys. In that regard playing with classic players is super satisfying. I mix classic players with current players and it’s insanely fun and many classic players hold up immersively to current players. Game would be crazy boring to me to just use current rosters.

                    Disregarding classics for G league players? LMAO stop it. Classic NBA is still generating some of the most interest when it comes to NBA related productions and gear. Most 2K buyers are kids, yet judging by 2K’s marketing, classic players are a huge boom for them by how often they use them as advertisements and selling tools.

                    I personally don’t care much for the classic TEAMS as much as classic players. I can adjust the rosters/teams myself.

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                    • ksuttonjr76
                      All Star
                      • Nov 2004
                      • 8662

                      #70
                      Re: 2K please Show More Love To Classic Teams/Players in 2K23

                      Originally posted by dlxsf18
                      Simply put it would be a waste of resources to allocate additional effort into any more classic teams on account of the fact that you guys asking for that stuff will never be fully satisfied regardless . There is a very simple and common sense explanation as to why they can’t get ‘85 Michael to look the way the current players do , and the same goes for penny/shaq/bird/ etc.

                      It would be much more useful for the time and money spent on trying to get a Charles Barkley into the game to be spent on licensing current teams and players into the game such as G league squads and the top sides around Europe . Not only would it contribute to the game in terms of making Franchise/MyTeam a more robust and accurate experience, there would be much more revenue generated from the addition of having these rosters/stadiums/scans in the game

                      Imagine if you could sign free agents from Real Madrid or fenerbache to your Knicks save , or if you could alternate playing games between your NBA team and their G League affiliate . If it’s possible for you to do that in MLB the Show then you should absolutely be able to do it in 2K , but having those teams and players scanned with their corresponding stadiums would truly take this game to the next level . I would sacrifice every single classic team and player in the game if that would make what ive suggested a reality
                      Honestly (and speaking as a MyTeam player this year), it's comes down to 2K giving very little effort/interest to the traditional offline and PNO modes. The moneymaker is MyCareer and MyTeam. I can attest that there are a LOT of historic players in the MyTeam Mode that are NOT available in the offline mode.

                      https://2kdb.net/

                      The above link shows every available player/card in the MyTeam mode. Then there are cases where the player IS available in the offline mode, but they're not added to the respective all-time/classic teams for PNO. Being a Pacers fan, Lance Stephenson NOT being added to the Classic Pacers Team for PNO was basically the final nail in the coffin for me when it came to PNO. My brothers have heard this complaint before, but the Pacers were having a tank season this year, and the only real incentive for me to continue playing the mode is if they added Lance to Classic Pacers team. Never happened....

                      EDIT: Funny...I've been using them in MyTeam, but I just realized that Austin Croshere and Darren Collison are not available offline.
                      Last edited by ksuttonjr76; 05-22-2022, 03:04 AM.

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                      • daveberg
                        MVP
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 2788

                        #71
                        Re: 2K please Show More Love To Classic Teams/Players in 2K23

                        Originally posted by The 24th Letter
                        It may not be as often as wanted, but Classic teams still see new additions and likeness updates.

                        Meanwhile PNO hasn’t seen an actual change in 5 years…That mode is DEAD.

                        Y’all gotta use a different word, lol
                        Forgive the ignorance man - I honestly wouldn't know. That must be tough for you guys that dig the online play.
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                        • ksuttonjr76
                          All Star
                          • Nov 2004
                          • 8662

                          #72
                          Re: 2K please Show More Love To Classic Teams/Players in 2K23

                          Originally posted by daveberg
                          Forgive the ignorance man - I honestly wouldn't know. That must be tough for you guys that dig the online play.
                          It's basically a farming mode for VC at this point.

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                          • The 24th Letter
                            ERA
                            • Oct 2007
                            • 39373

                            #73
                            2K please Show More Love To Classic Teams/Players in 2K23

                            Originally posted by daveberg
                            Forgive the ignorance man - I honestly wouldn't know. That must be tough for you guys that dig the online play.

                            No problem man.

                            Just joking (but not joking) about the state of PNO.

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                            • KobeDropped81
                              Banned
                              • Nov 2017
                              • 753

                              #74
                              Re: 2K please Show More Love To Classic Teams/Players in 2K23

                              Originally posted by AIRJ23
                              You have to tweak some of the players, edit some move sets maybe, edit some accessories, change shoes, adjust attributes and tendencies (mid range and 3 tendencies are way off for some players) and I find it’s more immersive when you put them on EXISTING team rosters and just use the classic jerseys. In that regard playing with classic players is super satisfying. I mix classic players with current players and it’s insanely fun and many classic players hold up immersively to current players. Game would be crazy boring to me to just use current rosters.

                              Disregarding classics for G league players? LMAO stop it. Classic NBA is still generating some of the most interest when it comes to NBA related productions and gear. Most 2K buyers are kids, yet judging by 2K’s marketing, classic players are a huge boom for them by how often they use them as advertisements and selling tools.

                              I personally don’t care much for the classic TEAMS as much as classic players. I can adjust the rosters/teams myself.
                              They would literally have to get rid of MyTeam entirely if they let go of Historic players lol

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                              • AIRJ23
                                MVP
                                • Apr 2021
                                • 2789

                                #75
                                Re: 2K please Show More Love To Classic Teams/Players in 2K23

                                Originally posted by KobeDropped81
                                They would literally have to get rid of MyTeam entirely if they let go of Historic players lol
                                Truth lol. To see how vital historic players are to the game, look no further than how vital they are to MyTeam. But historic teams are definitely on the backburner.

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