Is it me or did the CPU get WAY better

[VDusen04]

Re: Is it me or did the CPU get WAY better

That’s funny cause I found the game was too easy for elite slashers to beat defenders out of the box. Believe it or not but I have body up sensitivity at 90, and CPU on ball defense/awareness/consistency/lateral quickness at 98 lol. Also I have help defense sliders at 78. I do get the stone wall effect but for slashers like Jordan I feel it’s necessary otherwise I can get to the basket without any problems every time.

Beating a defender with even Zach Lavine is hard now. But beating one with MJ, Kobe, AI etc. feels just right. Still can be easy but also can also give a challenge or be too hard to do, which is realistic. Elite slashers are so far and away boosted compared to regular slashers in this game that I find you have to pick your poison. Either make it way too hard for average players to give some challenge for elite slashers, or make it more realistic for average slashers which makes it a cakewalk for the elite ones.

Yeah, I'll have to experiment with Isiah more against non-powerhouse teams to see if there's a difference.

As a matter of personal preference, I enjoy the game most when I'm able to work those angles and get a slight edge on defenders when I'm using someone like prime Isiah Thomas. And if the game decides it wants to stonewall me 95 percent of the time off the dribble by default, I just ask that it includes sliders to yield the type of gameplay I like.

My issue with the stonewalling is that it's taken away a very critical offensive strategy (getting the edge on defenders off the dribble). It's nice I can get open by running players off screens, lead passing, or totally breaking a guy's ankles, but I just want to be able to get past defenders in a normal way sometimes, too. I'll just have to keep tinkering and report back. But I swear... after seeing Da Czar's opening videos about the smaller "stonewall" radius, I'll be bummed if they fanned it back out with no way of changing it.

[NYJin2011tm]

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I played a half as 83 Lakers vs 83 Jazz on default Superstar. Pre patch I would win this by 20+ easily. Post patch I'm up by nine at the half 55-46 but most of the half was back n forth. I struggled in the first quarter shooting because the D is def better and more physical. Second quarter I adjusted and shot better. On the plus side with the better more physical D I feel like I'm drawing more fouls. I'm liking the better challenge.

[AIRJ23]

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Yeah, I'll have to experiment with Isiah more against non-powerhouse teams to see if there's a difference.

As a matter of personal preference, I enjoy the game most when I'm able to work those angles and get a slight edge on defenders when I'm using someone like prime Isiah Thomas. And if the game decides it wants to stonewall me 95 percent of the time off the dribble by default, I just ask that it includes sliders to yield the type of gameplay I like.

My issue with the stonewalling is that it's taken away a very critical offensive strategy (getting the edge on defenders off the dribble). It's nice I can get open by running players off screens, lead passing, or totally breaking a guy's ankles, but I just want to be able to get past defenders in a normal way sometimes, too. I'll just have to keep tinkering and report back. But I swear... after seeing Da Czar's opening videos about the smaller "stonewall" radius, I'll be bummed if they fanned it back out with no way of changing it.

Can’t you lower body up sensitivity? That should do it.

[simbayless]

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I played a half as 83 Lakers vs 83 Jazz on default Superstar. Pre patch I would win this by 20+ easily. Post patch I'm up by nine at the half 55-46 but most of the half was back n forth. I struggled in the first quarter shooting because the D is def better and more physical. Second quarter I adjusted and shot better. On the plus side with the better more physical D I feel like I'm drawing more fouls. I'm liking the better challenge.

I'm happy for you been talking about killing the league with 83 Lakers since Launch lol

[The 24th Letter]

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Yeah it is. I have to lower cpu shooting sliders. They’re just too good now and it legit drove me nuts last night. It’s a great problem to have, not complaining, it’s what I’ve always asked for. But I don’t need every game to feel like game 7 of the finals before bed lol. Gonna have to reaclimate and get my skills up before raising them back to where they currently are.



That’s funny cause I found the game was too easy for elite slashers to beat defenders out of the box. Believe it or not but I have body up sensitivity at 90, and CPU on ball defense/awareness/consistency/lateral quickness at 98 lol. Also I have help defense sliders at 78. I do get the stone wall effect but for slashers like Jordan I feel it’s necessary otherwise I can get to the basket without any problems every time.

Beating a defender with even Zach Lavine is hard now. But beating one with MJ, Kobe, AI etc. feels just right. Still can be easy but also can also give a challenge or be too hard to do, which is realistic. Elite slashers are so far and away boosted compared to regular slashers in this game that I find you have to pick your poison. Either make it way too hard for average players to give some challenge for elite slashers, or make it more realistic for average slashers which makes it a cakewalk for the elite ones.

I think that describes the balance really well.

I was playing the All Time Clips vs. Magic and Kawhi gave me hell all game, (as he should) even with T-Mac….but that didn’t mean he was impenetrable and couldn’t be beat off of a simple quick move.

https://streamable.com/d696e5

I appreciate things like that.


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[VDusen04]

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Can’t you lower body up sensitivity? That should do it.

Yep. I'm back into the tinkering phase again after the patch dropped. Just bad timing as I was in the conference finals portion of my season, so it's a bit tougher to tell whether I've found the proper sweet spot for sliders or whether it's just superstars being superstars (Bird, Moses, Chuck, Magic, KAJ, etc).

My user controlled Larry Bird was unstoppable from mid-range last game and then in the game prior, I was successful enough with the Lakers to blow out the opposition, which eased my concerns a touch.

That said, even when I lower body-up sensitivity to zero, it still feels like the offense is losing the contact battle more often than before. Even if I've got a dude on my back hip, if there's contact, it seems like he's soon able to recover in front of me. This has been particularly annoying when trying to create some distance between me and the defense on fast breaks. If the defender is close to me, it seems they're often able to body me up (even if they're behind the offense) and eventually overtake them to limit open floor opportunities.

[AIRJ23]

Re: Is it me or did the CPU get WAY better

Yep. I'm back into the tinkering phase again after the patch dropped. Just bad timing as I was in the conference finals portion of my season, so it's a bit tougher to tell whether I've found the proper sweet spot for sliders or whether it's just superstars being superstars (Bird, Moses, Chuck, Magic, KAJ, etc).

My user controlled Larry Bird was unstoppable from mid-range last game and then in the game prior, I was successful enough with the Lakers to blow out the opposition, which eased my concerns a touch.

That said, even when I lower body-up sensitivity to zero, it still feels like the offense is losing the contact battle more often than before. Even if I've got a dude on my back hip, if there's contact, it seems like he's soon able to recover in front of me. This has been particularly annoying when trying to create some distance between me and the defense on fast breaks. If the defender is close to me, it seems they're often able to body me up (even if they're behind the offense) and eventually overtake them to limit open floor opportunities.

Yeah I’m back to tinkering and I hate tinkering (spent enough time on it). Honestly I felt the game was perfect before this patch. It’s still great but I feel they cheesed a few things needlessly. It was perfect to me before the patch. Still pretty perfect but I need to reacclimate.

All I’ve done so far is lower jumpshot defensive strength sliders to 10 (from 15) so I can ensure jumpshots still go in. My three point percentage has tanked but last game I played started to feel really good and natural again so I’m hoping that continues.

I just hope they don’t mess with gameplay anymore. It was great how it was. Now let us just adapt to the slight changes and leave it here please.

[NYJin2011tm]

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I'm happy for you been talking about killing the league with 83 Lakers since Launch lol

Yea, it looks like it was because Custom difficulty wasn’t working as intended. I kept changing sliders to help CPU and there wasn’t much difference. CPU would still shoot about 35%. So yea it’s good to see them shoot 41% on Superstar.

[GisherJohn24]

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I lower defensive consistency, steals and defensive awareness all in the mid 40s. This makes my franchise much more competitive and games seem more possible to win. Sliders always save me every year for a more enjoyable game. If there’s any particular part of the game that’s really bothering you just try to dig into those sliders. That doesn’t mean you’re a bad player it’s just every 2K Game always seems to play vastly different from one year to the next and we all have to adapt and in my eyes the only thing you can do is adjusted sliders because we all play differently


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[iLLWiLL]

Re: Is it me or did the CPU get WAY better

The latest November update definitely changed things --- definitely screwed up my custom sliders. How do you guys combat this? Do you just avoid automatic updates?


I had my shooting & CPU shooting honed in nicely before the updates. (I use meter-less, timed shooting.) After the update it was a frustrating struggle to hit 40% FG. Took me the last 3 days to get it where I wanted (between 43 - 48 shooting %) ... and that required lowering my 'shot coverage impact' from 50 down to 40 ...

[iLLWiLL]

Re: Is it me or did the CPU get WAY better

I literally turned the game off in a rage a couple of nights ago.

I'm normally really good threading the needle. Playing as Nash or Stockton, getting the ball to Amare or Malone for some awesome pick n roll action has always been a blast.

Last week or so, it's been sheer agony. Doesn't matter how open the space is for the pass, or what type of pass it is, the CPU just keeps magically picking it off, time and time and time again when it has no business doing so.

I even swallowed my pride and lowered the CPU 'hands' sliders but it made ZERO difference.

lol. I've had an issue with CPU steals in 2K for over 10 years now. That's why out of the box I lower CPU 'play passing lanes' to about 10. (And I lower CPU stealing ability to 40, and CPU hands to 25.)
(Of course, I tweak a ton of other sliders to balance things out.)

[ggsimmonds]

Re: Is it me or did the CPU get WAY better

Something changed. I just won game 4 against the Kobe-era LeBron led Cavs by a final score of 94-47.

The Cavs shot 20% from the field. LeBron was 4-18.

I played game 3 this morning and while they were horrible in that game, it was a reasonable bad where they shot in the mid 30s from the field.

Before those two games I was seeing fg% in the low 40s, a dominant defensive effort usually resulted in ~38%.

[prettyboydaee]

Re: Is it me or did the CPU get WAY better

Something changed. I just won game 4 against the Kobe-era LeBron led Cavs by a final score of 94-47.

The Cavs shot 20% from the field. LeBron was 4-18.

I played game 3 this morning and while they were horrible in that game, it was a reasonable bad where they shot in the mid 30s from the field.

Before those two games I was seeing fg% in the low 40s, a dominant defensive effort usually resulted in ~38%.

I’m seeing the same , I had my sliders in a good place pre patch . Post patch im seeing 3pt% of 15%-25% for the cpu . Even the overall % is down to around 35-40%. I will attempt to fix but it’s frustrating bc it is indeed time consuming to do so.


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[ggsimmonds]

Re: Is it me or did the CPU get WAY better

I’m seeing the same , I had my sliders in a good place pre patch . Post patch im seeing 3pt% of 15%-25% for the cpu . Even the overall % is down to around 35-40%. I will attempt to fix but it’s frustrating bc it is indeed time consuming to do so.


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Doubly frustrating because I'm deep in a playoff run and now I have to rebuild sliders.

Its like if I win the finals my championship is going to have an asterisk lmao

[VDusen04]

Re: Is it me or did the CPU get WAY better

Doubly frustrating because I'm deep in a playoff run and now I have to rebuild sliders.

Its like if I win the finals my championship is going to have an asterisk lmao

Just happened to me. I ended up blowing out the the 1986 Lakers in the Finals with the 76ers because I overcorrected the sliders and couldn't dial them back effectively enough to get back to the perfect mix I had pre-patch.

That being said, I'm still not pumped by how easily the defense seems to be able to track down a dribbler in the open floor. "Back hip" defensive position seems to transition to "front hip close off" really easily now. I'd trade the CPU playing better offense again for being able to maintain that edge over defenders in transition more regularly again.