Badging Thread

[anditbeg1ns]

Badging Thread

Hahahahaha oh my god. That's so messed up, because of the bumping in this game it can be so hard to get around bigger players when they do that. That's ridiculous lol

What is sad is Kareem have no business guarding quick guards in real life, but 2K somehow decided to put out an OP beast like that. Almost felt bad for using him that way.

[Nickstank]

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What is sad is Kareem have no business guarding quick guards in real life, but 2K somehow decided to put out an OP beast like that. Almost felt bad for using him that way.

This is something harryl and I have talked about before. It's insane how many bigs have elite lateral quickness. I'm pretty sure it started with Diamond Big Ben and Team USA David Robinson, and from there they had to give almost all of the top bigs the lateral quickness of an elite perimeter defender. So now Kareem, Hakeem, KG, AD, and even Marc Gasol can lock down opposing PGs. It's ridiculous.

[harryl]

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I used to do this a lot with Wallace, when I had problems with guys like Harden.

One thing to remember is that it still takes some pretty good defensive stick skill to track with a player like AI, if controlled craftily. Lateral movement is much, much slower than straight movement, so I don't think it's an easy thing to contain a fast guard with a highly mobile center in the backcourt. But, yeah...if/when you can, it's quite something.

I tried, vs. CPU a couple times, running Kareem at SG to try to guard the CPU Jordan. He felt good. Not ideal, but good. And I was surprised at how readily I was able to track Jordan around off-ball screens with Kareem.

[Bi00]

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Everything is out of control right now, Kareem might be the only answer to 98 Magic.

Short players are getting the worst of it.

[harryl]

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Everything is out of control right now, Kareem might be the only answer to 98 Magic.

Short players are getting the worst of it.

For those without Magic, or without Oscar, try shuffling things. Put a 3 or 4 on Magic and adjust other assignments accordingly.

I think Rodman could do well against a Magic. Gives up 2 inches, but is same weight, is stronger, obviously has near-max Def ratings. With a cheap shoe, will basically match Magic in Speed/Accel. And has HoF Rim Protector and Def Stopper.

99 Low Post Def IQ.

Unseld is on the slow side, but possibly can hang with Magic. If you have the new Russell, he's probably ideal, with a speed/accel shoe, to stick on Magic. Wallace, of course, is a good candidate.

But I think, for maximum relevant defense, the athleticism necessary to keep up, and not being a spacing liability, Rodman might be the reasonable ideal.

[pfmicks]

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I decided to put a cheap silver LQ and Acc shoe on him to make his perimeter defense ridiculously absurd. 99 LQ for a 7'2 center is too OP. He could literally shut down anyone on the perimeter.

Here's a clip of him shutting down AI in the backcourt last night.

via Imgflip GIF Maker

I forced a couple more of those turnovers in the first half and forced a rage quit. If I'm a cheesy dude, I could just put Kareem at point and let him clamp down on other PG with that frame and defensive stats. It would be fun to frustrate the opponent and at the same time drain their energy with HOF bruiser.

Wow that is awesome haha ... makes me wanna buy Kareem now.

[harryl]

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It's (tragi-)comical to think about how much value so many premium cards have lost, with how long the Duo and Playoffs packs have been around. I've gotten so many cheap deals, and also watched a lot of value has evaporated in my collection.

I just picked up DI Campus Legends Carmelo Anthony for 170K. At the peak of his value, he probably was worth over 2M, and even after a crash or two, was 1.5M. At least over 1M until the slow crash of the last month or so.

Not my style of player, because of the bad D. And I have all kinds of nice options for two-way wings. But I have had a lot of fun with his Sapphire and Ruby and really wanted this DI, ever since it came out.

Comes With:

• Catch & Shoot
• Corner Specialist
• Deep Range Deadeye
• Difficult Shots (HoF)
• Limitless Range
• Mid-Range Deadeye (HoF)
• Pick & Popper
• Tireless Scorer
• Acrobat
• Dream-Like Up&Under
• Drop-Stepper
• Pick & Roller
• Post Spin Tech
• Relentless Finisher
• Tear Dropper
• Ankle Breaker
• Lob City Finisher
• One Man Fast Break
• Posterizer

Candidates for Badges to Add:

1. Defensive Stopper
2. Rim Protector
3. Dimer
4. P&R Maestro
5. Hustle Rebounder
6. Brick Wall
7. Bruiser
8. Pick Dodger

Probably Will Add:

1. Defensive Stopper: Mandatory, especially given how bad his defense is.
2. Rim Protector: Mandatory, for same reason, especially for running as a Stretch 4, but also to deal with post-up wings/guards.
3. Dimer: Generally mandatory, especially if he is hot enough to draw double-teams.
4. P&R Maestro: I think his handles and speed can probably make him a good secondary P&R ballhandler, and with his super-quick release, he might be really deadly shooting off screens. Especially since he's such a big threat to drive and yam it down.
5. Brick Wall: To complement him being a Pick & Pop/Roll man, both badges he comes with. And just general screen-setting for off-ball actions. He's 6'8" and 240lbs, so should be a good screen setter in general.
6. Hustle Rebounder: To help him if playing as a Stretch 4.

I would maybe give him Pick Dodger instead of Hustle Rebounder. Have a feeling that I won't run him much at 4, given all the Twin Towers we all see. So, as a 3, or even as a big 2, he could use help not getting snagged on off-ball screens. He probably has a tendency to, due to unremarkable DIQ.

Bruiser is fairly easy to give up. I don't believe that it's super-useful since everyone has such deep teams. And there is little secondary utility for Carmelo in making it easier to pick pockets since his Steal is so bad.

[jschmib]

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It's (tragi-)comical to think about how much value so many premium cards have lost, with how long the Duo and Playoffs packs have been around. I've gotten so many cheap deals, and also watched a lot of value has evaporated in my collection.

I just picked up DI Campus Legends Carmelo Anthony for 170K. At the peak of his value, he probably was worth over 2M, and even after a crash or two, was 1.5M. At least over 1M until the slow crash of the last month or so.

Not my style of player, because of the bad D. And I have all kinds of nice options for two-way wings. But I have had a lot of fun with his Sapphire and Ruby and really wanted this DI, ever since it came out.

Comes With:

• Catch & Shoot
• Corner Specialist
• Deep Range Deadeye
• Difficult Shots (HoF)
• Limitless Range
• Mid-Range Deadeye (HoF)
• Pick & Popper
• Tireless Scorer
• Acrobat
• Dream-Like Up&Under
• Drop-Stepper
• Pick & Roller
• Post Spin Tech
• Relentless Finisher
• Tear Dropper
• Ankle Breaker
• Lob City Finisher
• One Man Fast Break
• Posterizer

Candidates for Badges to Add:

1. Defensive Stopper
2. Rim Protector
3. Dimer
4. P&R Maestro
5. Hustle Rebounder
6. Brick Wall
7. Bruiser
8. Pick Dodger

Probably Will Add:

1. Defensive Stopper: Mandatory, especially given how bad his defense is.
2. Rim Protector: Mandatory, for same reason, especially for running as a Stretch 4, but also to deal with post-up wings/guards.
3. Dimer: Generally mandatory, especially if he is hot enough to draw double-teams.
4. P&R Maestro: I think his handles and speed can probably make him a good secondary P&R ballhandler, and with his super-quick release, he might be really deadly shooting off screens. Especially since he's such a big threat to drive and yam it down.
5. Brick Wall: To complement him being a Pick & Pop/Roll man, both badges he comes with. And just general screen-setting for off-ball actions. He's 6'8" and 240lbs, so should be a good screen setter in general.
6. Hustle Rebounder: To help him if playing as a Stretch 4.

I would maybe give him Pick Dodger instead of Hustle Rebounder. Have a feeling that I won't run him much at 4, given all the Twin Towers we all see. So, as a 3, or even as a big 2, he could use help not getting snagged on off-ball screens. He probably has a tendency to, due to unremarkable DIQ.

Bruiser is fairly easy to give up. I don't believe that it's super-useful since everyone has such deep teams. And there is little secondary utility for Carmelo in making it easier to pick pockets since his Steal is so bad.

I might go with Bruiser over brick wall. It seems to help me a lot on guys who post up a lot, draining their little turbo bar until it flashes, which makes it a lot easier to score. My housemates runs DI Melo with bruiser and scores with him in the post near every time.

It'll also help his defense.

[harryl]

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I might go with Bruiser over brick wall. It seems to help me a lot on guys who post up a lot, draining their little turbo bar until it flashes, which makes it a lot easier to score. My housemates runs DI Melo with bruiser and scores with him in the post near every time.

It'll also help his defense.

I meant to reply to this earlier...that this makes a lot of sense to me and I always forget about how posting up (and defending post-ups) causes collisions that drain short-term energy. I still have a couple slots open but already added Bruiser.

Thanks!

[harryl]

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PD Russell Westbrook

There's only 4 or 5 badges in the game he can't have, I believe.

What I'd recommend as considerations are:

1. Rim Protector
2. Bruiser
3. Brick Wall
4. Dream-Like Up & Under
5. Post Spin Tech
6. Putback King
7. Break Starter
8. Drop Stepper

Obviously, that's 2 over the amount that can be added to him, so pick and choose between the final few. But I think #'s 1-4 are no-brainers for him.
1-3 are self-explanatory, and Dream-Like is an easy add, I think, because he has a post fade.

Beyond these 8, the only remaining are Pick & Roller, Pick & Popper, I believe, and they'd be lower down priority list, below all the above, to me.

[Nickstank]

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I'm very close to PD Duncan, and I don't want to screw up how I badge him because I've grinded for so long to get him. Here's what I think are mandatory...

Dimer (goes on everyone)
Midrange Deadeye (99 midrange stats with Kawhi DD)
Relentless Finisher (contact finishes in the post)
Posterizer (high dunk ratings)

He's not particularly well-badged compared with many of the late-cycle cards, so there are a lot of options for those last two slots. Keep in mind his open 3 goes to a 90 with the Kawhi DD. I've already ruled out Deep Range Deadeye because his contested 3 rating is terrible and I've ruled out Lob City Finisher because I rarely throw lobs. Help a brother decide between the following...

Limitless Range
Corner Specialist
Acrobat
Pick Pocket
Tear Dropper
Tireless Scorer

[harryl]

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I'm very close to PD Duncan, and I don't want to screw up how I badge him because I've grinded for so long to get him. Here's what I think are mandatory...

Dimer (goes on everyone)
Midrange Deadeye (99 midrange stats with Kawhi DD)
Relentless Finisher (contact finishes in the post)
Posterizer (high dunk ratings)

...

Help a brother decide between the following...

Limitless Range
Corner Specialist
Acrobat
Pick Pocket
Tear Dropper
Tireless Scorer

I think the three most important in that second list are Corner Specialist, Acrobat, and Tireless Scorer. I'd probably go with the latter two. Would maybe sacrifice Midrange Deadeye for Corner Specialist, depending on your offensive style. And, with Tireless Scorer, if you're not going to post up with him, that's something to potentially take off...but I don't know why one would not post up heavily with Duncan.

With Duncan, I'd emphasize inside before outside.

If you run him at Center, then you could strongly consider Pick Pocket, too, for defending someone like Shaq. He has high 84 Steal that can be boosted to 93.

[harryl]

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Finally was able to get a Diamond Klay Thompson.

We all waited for him for a long time and I had to wait a while till I could win an auction for him (285K on PC). Other than him, I'm light on Diamond SG's, and wanted him specifically as basically the prototypical 3&D shooting guard. Ray Allen and Pete Maravich are guns, but not elite on D. PD Wade is an excellent perimeter defender but not a go-to outside shooter. All three are "short" when so many people are running SF's at SG.

Klay's badging is pretty perfect, in terms of what he comes with:

• Catch & Shoot
• Corner Specialist
• Deep Range Deadeye
• Difficult Shots
• Limitless Range
• Mid-Range Deadeye
• Tireless Scorer
• Acrobat
• Tear Dropper
• Break Starter
• Lob City Passer
• Pick & Roll Maestro
• One Man Fast Break
• Charge Card
• Chase Down Artist
• Defensive Stopper
• Pick Dodger
• Pick Pocket

I think there are three additions that seem no-brainer:

1. Dimer
2. Relentless Finisher
3. Posterizer
   
   And then I think there are four additions that stand out from the rest that are possible:
   
   
4. Dreamlike Up & Under: 93 Post Fade, and I post up a lot with my guards, whenever they're facing a bad post defender.
5. Post Spin Tech: 82 Post Control, just basic part of post arsenal.
6. Rim Protector: To counter other guards posting up on him. Especially since he has the height to also play at 3, where one might see more posting up from big wings.
7. Brick Wall: For the off-ball screening game.
   

I would actually potentially keep all of the latter 4 and take out Posterizer...

[Nickstank]

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I think the three most important in that second list are Corner Specialist, Acrobat, and Tireless Scorer. I'd probably go with the latter two. Would maybe sacrifice Midrange Deadeye for Corner Specialist, depending on your offensive style. And, with Tireless Scorer, if you're not going to post up with him, that's something to potentially take off...but I don't know why one would not post up heavily with Duncan.

With Duncan, I'd emphasize inside before outside.

If you run him at Center, then you could strongly consider Pick Pocket, too, for defending someone like Shaq. He has high 84 Steal that can be boosted to 93.

I'm going to run Timmy at PF, and I generally run Pace Motion Cuts with a solid dose of called plays and post ups. That offense usually has the PF stationed at the break of the 3 point line instead of the corner, which is the only reason I'm considering leaving off corner specialist.

Acrobat seems to go hand in hand with Relentless Finisher, as they both light up on contact layups all the time. And I'll definitely be utilizing him in the post, so I'm with you on the usefulness of Tireless Scorer as well. I've come to appreciate Limitless Range more and more because it really helps even if your player is a half step behind the 3 point line, and I shoot a good amount of 3s. I think I'll go with Tireless Scorer for sure. I've just got to choose between Acrobat and Limitless for that last spot.

[Nickstank]

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Finally was able to get a Diamond Klay Thompson.

We all waited for him for a long time and I had to wait a while till I could win an auction for him (285K on PC). Other than him, I'm light on Diamond SG's, and wanted him specifically as basically the prototypical 3&D shooting guard. Ray Allen and Pete Maravich are guns, but not elite on D. PD Wade is an excellent perimeter defender but not a go-to outside shooter. All three are "short" when so many people are running SF's at SG.

Klay's badging is pretty perfect, in terms of what he comes with:

• Catch & Shoot
• Corner Specialist
• Deep Range Deadeye
• Difficult Shots
• Limitless Range
• Mid-Range Deadeye
• Tireless Scorer
• Acrobat
• Tear Dropper
• Break Starter
• Lob City Passer
• Pick & Roll Maestro
• One Man Fast Break
• Charge Card
• Chase Down Artist
• Defensive Stopper
• Pick Dodger
• Pick Pocket

I think there are three additions that seem no-brainer:

1. Dimer
2. Relentless Finisher
3. Posterizer
   
   And then I think there are four additions that stand out from the rest that are possible:
   
   
4. Dreamlike Up & Under: 93 Post Fade, and I post up a lot with my guards, whenever they're facing a bad post defender.
5. Post Spin Tech: 82 Post Control, just basic part of post arsenal.
6. Rim Protector: To counter other guards posting up on him. Especially since he has the height to also play at 3, where one might see more posting up from big wings.
7. Brick Wall: For the off-ball screening game.
   

I would actually potentially keep all of the latter 4 and take out Posterizer...

I think mine came with Bruiser, but I agree that Relentless Finisher, Dimer and Posterizer are musts. I also added Rim Protector and Brick Wall. If mine didn't have Bruiser, I would've gone with Post Spin for sure.