2K20 MyLeague Community Slider Set (User v User and User v CPU)

[duce]

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Gonna try a game with your updates hopefully today. Settling on a set is killing me this year even more than normal, so I know it can't be all that fun for you guys trying to fix 2Ks BS.

It seems several slider makers are really focused on getting the game speed and movement sliders to function well together. With yours are you trying to do it more by increasing player speed instead of drastically raising game speed? One of my biggest issues this year as I've mentioned previously is how game speed affects animations.

I try to stay with game speed at 50 for a few reasons but the main one is that (I believe) it's the most stable value throughout patches.

I like to make loading the sliders as much of a plug and play situation as possible. Alot of what we see as slider users/testers/makers is placebo/perception imo. I haven't seen anything definitively showing that changing game speed is necessary, in my experience, so I've kept it at default while trying to resolve repeatable issues described by others.

[rlb1976]

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I try to stay with game speed at 50 for a few reasons but the main one is that (I believe) it's the most stable value throughout patches.

I like to make loading the sliders as much of a plug and play situation as possible. Alot of what we see as slider users/testers/makers is placebo/perception imo. I haven't seen anything definitively showing that changing game speed is necessary, in my experience, so I've kept it at default while trying to resolve repeatable issues described by others.

The game speed thing this year has felt very real to me, but I get what you're saying. I think it's really weird that certain animations wouldn't play out on 2Ks default speed. That shouldn't even be a thing!

Firing up your latest set now. I'll let you know how it goes.

[rlb1976]

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So yeah I had to turn it off about 2 minutes into the 3rd quarter. Losing 75-30 as the magic vs the Nuggets. Shooting 26%. Tons of missed close shots and layups (an issue I've had with your sets throughout). An insane amount of steals. I literally can't pass the ball and I'm not making bad passes. 8 free throw attempts total between the two teams. Jokic going off the dribble from the free throw line like he's Giannis multiple times (he's a great player but slow and doesn't do that IRL). Don't take offense, but it was bad. Nothing would go in and the steals where maddening. Players basically morphing in front of mine to steak the ball. You play on 2K Cam and I really think that could be part of the issue. Think I've mentioned that before. The game is WAY easier on 2K cam. I could be wrong, but I don't think sliders played and tested primarily on 2K cam can translate well to broadcast. Personally I can't stand 2K Cam. Makes the game feel like Madden with a basketball.

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So yeah I had to turn it off about 2 minutes into the 3rd quarter. Losing 75-30 as the magic vs the Nuggets. Shooting 26%. Tons of missed close shots and layups (an issue I've had with your sets throughout). An insane amount of steals. I literally can't pass the ball and I'm not making bad passes. 8 free throw attempts total between the two teams. Jokic going off the dribble from the free throw line like he's Giannis multiple times (he's a great player but slow and doesn't do that IRL). Don't take offense, but it was bad. Nothing would go in and the steals where maddening. Players basically morphing in front of mine to steak the ball. You play on 2K Cam and I really think that could be part of the issue. Think I've mentioned that before. The game is WAY easier on 2K cam. I could be wrong, but I don't think sliders played and tested primarily on 2K cam can translate well to broadcast. Personally I can't stand 2K Cam. Makes the game feel like Madden with a basketball.

Oh wow I haven't had anything close to that. I'm gonna play with broadcast view for a few games. I'm surprised it's THAT much of a difference, especially with real fg%

[rlb1976]

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Oh wow I haven't had anything close to that. I'm gonna play with broadcast view for a few games. I'm surprised it's THAT much of a difference, especially with real fg%

Yeah man it was crazy. Felt like there was a lid on the rim. Felt like I was trash at the game (I assure you I'm not). What passing settings do you use under controller settings? I'm wondering if that could be part of the crazy steals I was seeing? My are set to I think what 2K the Popboy uses. I haven't changed them in weeks. One thing I haven't felt with your set is the game is too fast. Jokic was moving like Giannis. I have the game on pause and I'm watching the clips it shows on that screen. I literally through the ball into the post to Vuc who was in front of Jokic and Jokic went through his body for a steal.

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Yeah man it was crazy. Felt like there was a lid on the rim. Felt like I was trash at the game (I assure you I'm not). What passing settings do you use under controller settings? I'm wondering if that could be part of the crazy steals I was seeing? My are set to I think what 2K the Popboy uses. I haven't changed them in weeks. One thing I haven't felt with your set is the game is too fast. Jokic was moving like Giannis. I have the game on pause and I'm watching the clips it shows on that screen. I literally through the ball into the post to Vuc who was in front of Jokic and Jokic went through his body for a steal.

Streaming now on Broadcast. Pass Target Profile is Default. Defensive Assist at 50.

[rlb1976]

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Streaming now on Broadcast. Pass Target Profile is Default. Defensive Assist at 50.

I'll change it to default.

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Took a L vs Pacers 98-88. 4th Quarter they got hot and we got cold. Great reminder to setup defense for closing games. I thought the CPU played well, good sets on Offense, better defense at the end. Gotta get used to Broadcast camera, but I thought it was a good challenge.



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[rlb1976]

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Took a L vs Pacers 98-88. 4th Quarter they got hot and we got cold. Great reminder to setup defense for closing games. I thought the CPU played well, good sets on Offense, better defense at the end. Gotta get used to Broadcast camera, but I thought it was a good challenge.



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I watched a good portion of your stream. You don't play much different than I do really. You were definitely making shots that just wouldn't drop for me. For whatever reason close shots and layups are a problem for me with your sets. No idea why. I'll try again tomorrow to see if maybe my passing settings are causing an issue.

[rlb1976]

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Took a L vs Pacers 98-88. 4th Quarter they got hot and we got cold. Great reminder to setup defense for closing games. I thought the CPU played well, good sets on Offense, better defense at the end. Gotta get used to Broadcast camera, but I thought it was a good challenge.



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Looking at your final stats free throws are definitely too low.

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Looking at your final stats free throws are definitely too low.

I agree with you. In your opinion, who's set has the most accurate Fouls?

I'm trying having user contest shot @ 100 vs the rockets. If that ends in low ftas I'll have to look at what other sets are doing

[rlb1976]

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I agree with you. In your opinion, who's set has the most accurate Fouls?

I'm trying having user contest shot @ 100 vs the rockets. If that ends in low ftas I'll have to look at what other sets are doing

I was getting an excellent amount of fouls with Shady's. Same goes for using Eccentric's settings. I've read others saying fouls are another thing affected by game speed and movement as well. I can't recall a year of 2k recently where the foul sliders didn't need to be pretty much maxed out. Have you considered the Eccentric method of raising game speed then compensating the raise in the movement sliders?

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I was getting an excellent amount of fouls with Shady's. Same goes for using Eccentric's settings. I've read others saying fouls are another thing affected by game speed and movement as well. I can't recall a year of 2k recently where the foul sliders didn't need to be pretty much maxed out. Have you considered the Eccentric method of raising game speed then compensating the raise in the movement sliders?

I've tried it in testing, just did not get a significant difference outside of the speed of the game. I see eccentric is using 48-50 game speed. If he's getting good FTAs then id guess to look at different settings.

Shady I'm assuming is redoing his speed after it was thrown out of order by patches?

[itrey25]

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Duce its not your fault man, that patch just ruined everyone’s sliders

[rlb1976]

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I've tried it in testing, just did not get a significant difference outside of the speed of the game. I see eccentric is using 48-50 game speed. If he's getting good FTAs then id guess to look at different settings.

Shady I'm assuming is redoing his speed after it was thrown out of order by patches?

In Eccentric's thread he and others mention 2K updates screwing up the speed. He's had it as high 58-60 I believe. He states that if you wanna play on higher speeds for the improved animations you need to make the recommended adjustments with the movement sliders to compensate. I'm eager to try his full set because I believe he's on to something with the movement. He just hasn't completed them yet. Have you considered testing with your set but maybe plugging in his movement and foul settings? Couldn't hurt.

Shady may be done I dunno. He posted his set as final on 11/28 and I've seen no updates on NLCS or Twitter. I even asked him on Twitter and he hasn't responded. His set is the only one I actually had fun with for any length of time, but the updates jacked them up. For whatever reason I have basically a legacy issue with yours where I can't make layups and close shots realistically lol. It's been a frustrating hunt for sliders this year me to say the least. Definitely appreciate your hard work though.