You Know What Grinds My Gears: Excessive Baby Hooks

[Kaanyr Vhok]

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Key word to every Troller: CASUAL

Figure it out.

Its been said a bunch of times the game is not being played on casual.

[bearschicago]

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Its been said a bunch of times the game is not being played on casual.

Mike said all the demos at Gamescom are Default Pro. I just can't wait what Simulation looks like.

[Jesus]

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Its been said a bunch of times the game is not being played on casual.

by someone other than the lead designer I presume lol

[Kaanyr Vhok]

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by someone other than the lead designer I presume lol

Isn't Mike the lead gameplay designer? Regardless he would know and Ronnie said the same thing.

[Boilerbuzz]

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I was hoping, and still am, that 2k11 will stop having players put up hook shots in excess of 7 or 8 feet from the basket. But the most recent leaked video from gamecon is a little disappointing in that respect.

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(40 second mark)

Its unrealistic, an eyesore to look at, out of place and gives the illusion that scoring in the paint is simple. In all actuality that shot in particular from that distance, in traffic is rather tricky and in the 2k realm its considered a "bunny".

Give me some baby jumpers and some fade-aways. I know the game is on causal + pro, but im not sure gamestyles go as far as to change shooting animations. 2k animates far too beautifully to have such a minor thing disturb the perception.

You're going to complain about the USER triggering a shot that millions of people want to have in the game? Sure, complain about the success or if the AI triggers it (which I rarely see in 2k10). But the shot taken in the video was triggered by the user (intentionally or not) and I'm pretty sure that will stay in the game.

[Jesus]

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Isn't Mike the lead gameplay designer? Regardless he would know and Ronnie said the same thing.

But both have said its not on sim, so the option is. . . drum roll please... casual

[made in eu]

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But both have said its not on sim, so the option is. . . drum roll please... casual

Are you frogetting DEFAULT?

[Jesus]

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You're going to complain about the USER triggering a shot that millions of people want to have in the game? Sure, complain about the success or if the AI triggers it (which I rarely see in 2k10). But the shot taken in the video was triggered by the user (intentionally or not) and I'm pretty sure that will stay in the game.

Really? . . . Really?. . .Millions?

So by that logic if a user triggered a dunk from a standstill from that spot it should be cool too?

Hmm well show me these millions and you and I can hold a conversation. Until then, i'll take your millions as "you".

In the mean time I'll listen to Mike who said that the excessive baby hooks bothered him aswell in earlier versions.

[Jesus]

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Are you frogetting DEFAULT?

Just as how to spell 'forgotten' has slipped from your memory, Ive forgotten that default is different from casual. My mistake.

[made in eu]

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Just as how to spell 'forgotten' has slipped from your memory, Ive forgotten that default is different from casual. My mistake.

Sorry english isnt my first language.

[Da_Czar]

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Sorry english isnt my first language.

Don't worry its is my first and I misspell stuff all the time. I don't think were going to be tested on our english to see if were still allowed to post so I'm sure you will be fine....

[Boilerbuzz]

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Are you frogetting DEFAULT?

"default" means what it's preset to. Mike's already stated that by OS standards, default is about 70% casual.

[Boilerbuzz]

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Really? . . . Really?. . .Millions?

So by that logic if a user triggered a dunk from a standstill from that spot it should be cool too?

Hmm well show me these millions and you and I can hold a conversation. Until then, i'll take your millions as "you".

In the mean time I'll listen to Mike who said that the excessive baby hooks bothered him aswell in earlier versions.

Don't twist the logic. IF you want to use dunks, then my logic would say, "a million of people want to dunk the ball, so dunks should be in the game". Get it now. That shot is in the game and is going to stay in the game. if the user wants to trigger it, as long as the context is compatible, they will get that shot. End of story.

NBA 2K10 sold around 3 million. And I'm sure a good chuck of market wants to be able to shoot that shot in some situation.

And if you REALLY paid attention to my post, you would see that NOTHING I've said contradicts anything Wang has said. So making this my word against his word is pointless. I didn't say anything about the frequency of the shot. And I even agreed about the success. I just said, the video showed a *user* triggering the shot. That's it. And if the user decides he wants EVERY shot he takes to be that shot, to a certain extent, who can argue with that?

[Kaanyr Vhok]

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"default" means what it's preset to. Mike's already stated that by OS standards, default is about 70% casual.

default is default and casual is casual.

Default: Kind of a hyper-realism. Shooting %’s will be slightly higher than real life, there will be fewer fouls, slightly more dunks, more and 1’s, etc. “Let ‘em play hoops” so to speak.

Casual: This is the setting you want if you like up and down play with lots of dunks and highlight moments. There won’t be a whole lot of stoppages and you’ll see higher scoring across the board. Arcade-style play is probably the best way to describe it.

Simulation: Real life stats. This is my game style of choice. With 12-min. quarters, you will easily see NBA averages across your stat lines. Don’t expect anything easy in the paint, you’ll have to work a lot harder and execute good basketball strategy to be successful in Sim.

[wrestlinggod1]

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default is default and casual is casual.

Ok well he was just quoting what Beluba said. Basically, default is more casual than sim.