Will You Use Real Player % Or Shot Stick Timing?

[Jukeman]

Re: Will You Use Real Player % Or Shot Stick Timing?

Its not set based on cpu..

Its determind 100% on ratings....

[Rawdeal28]

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So just to confirm

SHOT STICK RELEASE, chances of shot going in is determined by BOTH timing AND the actual NBA players shot rating?

PLAYER % Only based on NBA players shot rating

Just wanted to confirm that SHOT STICK RELEASE explanation above is correct and not what I originally thought it was, which was - Chances of shot going in is simply based on shot release and NBA player ratings don't come into it at all.

If the above is true, then I will use SHOT STICK RELEASE

yes, ur first explanation is correct.

If thats true then it looks like SHOT STICK RELEASE option does not factor in player shot ratings. If you were able to make 80% of Fts with SHAQ, looks like player shot rating doesn't come into it at all, even though it was mentioned above that it does.

So which is it? The explanation in couple posts above by JSapida says it does, but going from NBAlum's experience with it, it looks like it actually doesn't.

Unless player shot ratings doesn't play a part with FT's, but only jump shots (when using SHOT STICK RELEASE option)? THat would explain SHAQ's 80%+ FT success.

Wish we could get a 100% confirmation with this. I guess the only way is to get the game and start shooting 3's with SHAQ and see what happens

i can confirm NDALUM's success with Shaq at the line. i too was shooting around %80 with him at the FT line in 2k10. once i learned his delayed release i was Steve Nashing it at the line lol.

timing plays apart in both options! got that?? its just that its more of a factor if u choose SHOT STICK RELEASE. even if u choose REAL FG% it still plays a tiny part in the outcome but just not as much as SHOT STICK RELEASE.

so if your shooting a 3 with RAY ALLEN with a perfect release, you will make more 3's overall using SHOT STICK RELEASE because its based on your timing (which was perfect) and plus u get a bonus for it.

[threes_co]

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yes, ur first explanation is correct.


i can confirm NDALUM's success with Shaq at the line. i too was shooting around %80 with him at the FT line in 2k10. once i learned his delayed release i was Steve Nashing it at the line lol.

timing plays apart in both options! got that?? its just that its more of a factor if u choose SHOT STICK RELEASE. even if u choose REAL FG% it still plays a tiny part in the outcome but just not as much as SHOT STICK RELEASE.

so if your shooting a 3 with RAY ALLEN with a perfect release, you will make more 3's overall using SHOT STICK RELEASE because its based on your timing (which was perfect) and plus u get a bonus for it.

Timing plays a part in real FG%? How do you know?

[Jukeman]

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Timing plays a part in real FG%? How do you know?

I assume you just cant "tap" the button/stick for a jump shot and it goes in even if your using Dirk...

On Real%

Thats just awkward...

[threes_co]

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I assume you just cant "tap" the button/stick for a jump shot and it goes in even if your using Dirk...

On Real%

Thats just awkward...

That's how it worked for FT's in 2K10.

[Jukeman]

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That's how it worked for FT's in 2K10.

Nah, you needed some kind of release (Im not saying you're bound to miss every time with a quick flick like what will happen when playing with real% off)

[Phreezy P]

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Real player jumpshots take away control from me. I just can't use that. Only FT% sometimes.

[threes_co]

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Nah, you needed some kind of release (Im not saying you're bound to miss every time with a quick flick like what will happen when playing with real% off)

Sorry but that's completely false.

[Jukeman]

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I know he says here that timing will be ignored with Real Player % turned on. However, he also says that it works exactly like free-throws. In 2k10 if you have the Real Player % option turned on, your timing still has a slight effect on the outcome of the shot.

For example, if you just flick the stick with no timing at all, you will shoot slightly less than the player’s actual rating. Conversely, if you time it perfectly, you will shoot slightly better than the player’s actual rating. The difference is that the variance is very small (maybe 1 or 2 percentage points each way). Another interesting point, the free-throw difficulty slider still had an effect on free-throws even if you turn on the Real Player % option.

I tested this intensively after I noticed all of my players were shooting less than their rating in association mode. I determined this was because I was simply flicking the stick to start the shooting motion. Once I started hitting their “sweet” spot on the release, all percentages went slightly above their ratings. Finally, I bumped free-throw difficulty up to 99 and it evened out everyone’s percentages to right around their ratings. (This was tested over hundreds of games, and many seasons, so the sample size is more than sufficient to make some conclusive deductions.)

I hope that the shot mechanics are implemented exactly the same, with timing still having a small effect on outcome, but not nearly as much as straight shot stick timing.

Ace, I myself did this same test for CH2k8

[NDAlum]

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I think you guys see a placebo effect man.

I would just flip the stick and shoot what I expected my guys to be around...

[threes_co]

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Ace, I myself did this same test for CH2k8

OK. Wow, I had no idea.

[econoodle]

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Also want to add things like players biorhythms (aka cell phone)

biorhythms...thats some old school Bases Loaded stuff right there

lol

[Gosens6]

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Can anyone else with the game try this out and confirm what was said a few pages back about this being broken? I'm actually surprised no one else is talking about that.

[DaWu]

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I played another couple of games today. I am pretty sure that nearly no one will use real player FG% after trying out for themselves.
It just doenst feel right. It feels all fake.

I played the Lakers on sim/pro with midrange and three point sliders to 50.

Kobe 0/4 open threes. Fisher 1/6 open threes. You expect Odom to hit some open mid range jumpers? No way.
First you hit a shot that is nearly impossible and in the next minutes you keep shootin bricks.

For me its back to user controlled timing.

[champsbasketball]

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Hopefully this clears everything up:

Shot Stick Timing
With this option turned ON, as the name implies, your timing release will be factored in to your shot %. It's layered on top of the player's Shot Rating, type of shot taken (jumper, drifter, leaner, etc), defense impact, etc. Being really late or really early on your release will have negative impact, and being perfect on your release will give you an added boost in making the shot.

Real Player %
When you turn this ON, it's basically ignoring your release on the Shotstick completely. You won't get penalized for early or late releases. The same factors come into play as mentioned above, sans the stick release bonus/penalty. Pretty much how Real FT % works. We simply migrated the feature over to all the shots as well.

the only thing left is to see if this new feature works. but if not shot timing is great. lol