How to rebuild Celtics?

[EccentricMeat]

Re: How to rebuild Celtics?

How about a guy like Tyrus Thomas? He could be a good addition to the Celtics.

That's true, but Charlotte doesn't want to add any age to their roster (Allen or KG), and they have no need for Rondo as they have DJ and Kemba.

[Slyone14]

Re: How to rebuild Celtics?

This is a really good idea, one i might try myself. I would highly suggest keeping rondo, he can make people good. He is also in the prime of his career and would honestly help attract talent. (if we are being realistic). YOu can also make him your captain, show him some love he deserves.

First thing i would do if i were to do this is trade pierce ONLY during first season, lets keep this real and celtics really WOULD NOT make more than one blockbuster trade, especially more than one big 3. Second, i would trade him for draft picks/and a young upcoming allstar first/second year guy.

Second, i would simulate the entire first season because i would be too excited to not start rebuilding. NOw during offseason you lose garnett, good, dump his old butt, along with allen, do NOT trade them, that is HUGE capspace, 21 million for garnett. Let JaJuan start PF, and draft to top prospects. Then grab a NICe name during offseason.

Thats me, that way you are in rebuilding mode.

[sactown_13]

Re: How to rebuild Celtics?

I would keep Garnett as he will be a solid defensive piece until he retires. As for the rest, i would keep Pierce as i cant see him ever being traded. probably retire a celtic. Rondo might be your best chance at getting multiple building pieces back. (draft pick plus maybe a....marcus thorton?) Ray should be able to net you a few draft picks. Also, are you planning on a complete rebuild or a few band-aids so you can at least compete in the current season? I saw you were concerned about the draft classes being too good. I know of a few solid draft classes that would help with this problem. what system do you play on?

[EccentricMeat]

Re: How to rebuild Celtics?

I would keep Garnett as he will be a solid defensive piece until he retires. As for the rest, i would keep Pierce as i cant see him ever being traded. probably retire a celtic. Rondo might be your best chance at getting multiple building pieces back. (draft pick plus maybe a....marcus thorton?) Ray should be able to net you a few draft picks. Also, are you planning on a complete rebuild or a few band-aids so you can at least compete in the current season? I saw you were concerned about the draft classes being too good. I know of a few solid draft classes that would help with this problem. what system do you play on?

Wow, I really like that idea (Rondo for M. Thornton and a 1st rounder). But would Sacramento make that trade? Didn't they just draft Fredette?

[willIam9387]

Re: How to rebuild Celtics?

Wow, I really like that idea (Rondo for M. Thornton and a 1st rounder). But would Sacramento make that trade? Didn't they just draft Fredette?

That actually is a really good deal for the kings. Fredette isn't a pure point guard, while rondo is, and with thornton being traded away and Rondo coming in, that would force Evans to move to the 2. Fredette then could be the backup point, two-guard/six man/instant offense off the bench. Or you could play all three as Tyreke has the body and skills to play the 3. Rondo instead of Thornton would give them a lot more versatility and that team is in definite need of a pure passing point guard.

As far as the Celts and Thornton go, it's a good trade as they get a legit scorer they can play right away next to Pierce. That would force Allen to the bench or another team, you'd probably be able to get a pick not a lottery pick but maybe a late first rounder and a serviceable veteran for the current year. Trading Garnett is optional to me as you might have trouble finding someone to pick up his contract, they'll will definitely be teams who you could make it work with, but the question is whether or not they have players or picks that you would want. Either way, if you keep Garnett, then I would trade Green. If you trade Green, I'd keep Garnett, especially if you still want to contend in the present.

But I'd say if you are going to trade Rondo, the Kings are your first target.

[MURDR63]

Re: How to rebuild Celtics?

Wow, I really like that idea (Rondo for M. Thornton and a 1st rounder). But would Sacramento make that trade? Didn't they just draft Fredette?

Yeah, they DID jsut get Fredette, but he's just a 3-point shooter, nothing more. he can't pass, can't defend, can only score.

Do you think it'd be fair to get two 1sts? I mean, Rondo is a top 3-5 PG, depending on who you ask.

Or, do you think I could get Rondo for EVANS and a 1st?

Want to make it realistic.

Probably gonna trade with the Kings for one of these 2, and at the end of the season, let KG and Ray go, make one decently big signing in FA, and hope for a high pick in the draft. Sound like a good plan for the C's?

Or what if I traded KG for Marshon Brooks and the Nets' 1st? The Nets DESPERATELY need a PF, and KG would give them a Big 3 like everybody craves. Also, it might help convince Williams to stay.

For me, it will give me a young scoring SG and a most likely lottery pick to help build my future.

Which trade of the three should I do? Or do you have alternatives?

[mz1290]

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This is funny because I just decided to start my first Association with the Celts. The man draw for them, in my opinion, is the fact that you should want to make a run for a championship this season... not rebuild.

I decided to trade Jeff Green because I didn't think I could win it all with him as my back up to Pierce. (Also, because he really is out for the season)

The Jazz offered me Kirelenko (a vet who wants a ring) and Burks (a young sg and future prospect).

YOu should try to get the big 3 another ring and make a trade outside of them... unless your season is going in the gutter... then make the trade.

[Bugmenot]

Re: How to rebuild Celtics?

I would use lairy berd to try n rebuld da celtiks

[jeremym480]

Re: How to rebuild Celtics?

I try to start my Association as close to real life as possible. So that means Jeff Green will be out for the year. However, on the plus side I try to make the 2012 and 2013 draft as close to real life as possible.

Which means, Bostons owns the Clippers 1st round draft picks in 2012, New Orleans owns Minnesota's, the Lakers owns the Mavs, etc.

I haven't actually started my association yet, but having two 1st round picks (albeit they will probably late in the first round) will be huge. At least with those I have a few options. Plus, I'll have Green coming back in 2012 so I don't expect to have to completely blow up the team in the first year or two. Of course, all of my future plans could do a 180 once I actually start, but that's part of the beauty of 2k.

Good luck with whatever you decide.

[sactown_13]

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Yeah, they DID jsut get Fredette, but he's just a 3-point shooter, nothing more. he can't pass, can't defend, can only score.

Do you think it'd be fair to get two 1sts? I mean, Rondo is a top 3-5 PG, depending on who you ask.

Or, do you think I could get Rondo for EVANS and a 1st?

Want to make it realistic.

Probably gonna trade with the Kings for one of these 2, and at the end of the season, let KG and Ray go, make one decently big signing in FA, and hope for a high pick in the draft. Sound like a good plan for the C's?

Or what if I traded KG for Marshon Brooks and the Nets' 1st? The Nets DESPERATELY need a PF, and KG would give them a Big 3 like everybody craves. Also, it might help convince Williams to stay.

For me, it will give me a young scoring SG and a most likely lottery pick to help build my future.

Which trade of the three should I do? Or do you have alternatives?

Two firsts for rondo is a long shot as he, like jimmer, is one dimensional. There is no way in hell you could grab rondo for evans straight up let alone add a 1st round pick

[sactown_13]

Re: How to rebuild Celtics?

Im not sure Garnett or Allen warrant a first round pick from anyone. in real life, teams most likely arent going to sacrifice their future for a aging veteran unless they are on the cusp of winning it all. (miami, dallas, chicago, etc.) So the nets are unlikely to give up their promising young SG and a first round pick for KG

[MURDR63]

Re: How to rebuild Celtics?

How are these trades?

Rondo

for

Thorton
'12 1st

Green

for

Thaddeus Young
Nikola Vučević

Those fair?

[Slyone14]

Re: How to rebuild Celtics?

but to be honest, the OP wanted to REBUILD the celtics, not continue winning. Correct me if i am wrong here, but isnt keeping KG, Pierce, allen all go against rebuilding?

I mean if you trade pierce, he may want to retire a celtic, but remember how many teams traded someone near retirement? While not get something for him? You will not find to many PGS who can make things happen like Rondo. I am just a rondo fan

Anyways, he seems to want to rebuild, i just think if you keep all your allstars, you are NOT rebuilding but continuing the Celtic tradition.

[Slyone14]

Re: How to rebuild Celtics?

Why Rondo so bad?? He is soo important to the celtics man. Come on, help me out here Celtics fans? How pissed would boston be.

Trade Pierce/KG/or allen/green

Get Patrick Patterson/Ed Davis/Favors
you will have to add an BIG fat expiring contract, someone who is over in a year or two. So you can gain talent.

--you can also trade them to Grizzles, on the game they LOVE to get rid of GAY and/or OJ mayo. Imagine Rondo with Gay? Pick up a center in offseason with all that cash!!

[MURDR63]

Re: How to rebuild Celtics?

Why Rondo so bad?? He is soo important to the celtics man. Come on, help me out here Celtics fans? How pissed would boston be.

Trade Pierce/KG/or allen/green

Get Patrick Patterson/Ed Davis/Favors
you will have to add an BIG fat expiring contract, someone who is over in a year or two. So you can gain talent.

--you can also trade them to Grizzles, on the game they LOVE to get rid of GAY and/or OJ mayo. Imagine Rondo with Gay? Pick up a center in offseason with all that cash!!

Because without the Big 3, I don't trust Rondo.