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  • SwaggerCoach
    MVP
    • Oct 2011
    • 1342

    #751
    Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

    In other news, I am currently starting year 3 of my association and have been having an absolute blast with this roster and draft classes.

    Easily my funnest association experience of all time.

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    • Slyone14
      MVP
      • Dec 2011
      • 1035

      #752
      Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

      Originally posted by SwaggerCoach
      In other news, I am currently starting year 3 of my association and have been having an absolute blast with this roster and draft classes.

      Easily my funnest association experience of all time.
      hahah, good stuff! i am in year 2, lol is this fair?


      I am playing as the raptors, i am trying to think of a good trade for favors, i want him to be the main pf.

      Thinking something like

      Raptors trade

      Bayless
      ed davis/or barganini
      a draft pick

      for favors
      and plan on taking a bad contract off there books somewhere.

      Let me know, if this is fair, and how i can adjust it please, thank you

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      • bedwardsroy19
        NBA 2K Production Assistant
        • Jul 2010
        • 4459

        #753
        Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

        Originally posted by BasedTaylor
        WHAT?!?!? Go reread my post at the top of the page!! I said I know it's tough deciding who will stay or go (as in no one is right or wrong when talking bout it) and then I gave reasoning beside the guy's names as to why I think he will go/stay.

        To this being in the wrong thread.... k I guess, I mean draft classes are a BIG part of the association and I have seen plenty of talk bout it in here. I don't see how my post we're talking bout was so bad... that it calls for a blatant condescending tone.

        Whatever good luck with the rosters, sorry for trying to have some input... forgot everyone else's opinion is nonsense on this.


        Edit: Also wanted to add in you said "they" take that tone with you. It was only B Edwards who replied. Just saying because I've talked to Chiliad before and he's been nothing but nice.
        Im not sure if I completely missed something...

        I just told you this obviously wasn't the place for your post, and my alleged "condescending" tone probably was there because you know where stuff should be posted.

        I read every post on nearly every forum that has to do with 2K. If you were worried about you post not being seen then PM me but don't post it in the wrong thread. A lot of the people in here aren't even using that class.

        The entire point of my post is if you have an issue with a particular draft class, in what possible way could you have thought it was relevant in this thread.

        You have had a ton of posts before and see the kind of questions that I answer on a daily basis. To be upset with a halfway condescending tone is ridiculous to me. I promise I could have responded much worse. I deal with so many questions and have been as friendly as I know how. If your feelings were hurt, I'm sorry about that it wasn't my intention.

        Maybe just post feedback in the proper place or even in a PM if you are confused where that discussion should take place.

        That was just my perspective, and I am sorry if my response was not friendly enough
        Last edited by bedwardsroy19; 02-08-2012, 07:20 PM.
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        • qpc123
          MVP
          • Jul 2003
          • 3773

          #754
          Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

          Ok guys I need some help coming up with trade ideas for my association.

          I'm a little over half way through my 1st season, 30 team control but I only play the Thunder games.

          I'm coming up to the time when teams should start making some moves, but I'm having a hard determining what teams are buyers vs. sellers etc.

          I'll give a little background info on what is going on in my NBA universe, but if you want a little more here is the link to my dyansty thread: http://www.operationsports.com/forum...post2043345439

          In the West all the teams that would not make the playoffs if they started today are within 2 games of the 8 seed, except the Clippers who are basically out of it(can't figure out why this team is struggling so much but it is what it is).

          In the East it's a better/more realistic spread as the Cavs, Pistons, Wizards and Bobcats are out of it, so they are definetly in the sellers catagory.

          I plan on waiting until after the all-star to move Dwight Howard, and he's been pretty well covered in the thread already. Lakers are out of the running for as A) they are leaading their division and second in the west and B) Andrew Bynum just went down for the season with a torn MCL.

          I spent a good hour + trying to find moves that would realistic if my NBA univerese were real(if that makes any sense). For example Boston has the best record in the league in my association so they won't be looking to move any of the Big 3 or Rondo as they are set up for one last title run. I'll have to deal with them in the offseason.

          I looked into to geting Utah another PF since Paul Millsap is out for 6-8 weeks a broken arm, but the teams would be willing to deal seem to be riddled with bad contracts. I'm sure they'd like to get rid of them but I don't want to burden Utah with a bad contract for a fill-in player since Millsap will return eventually.

          Same goes for the Knicks as Baron Davis is out with a broken back. I moved Lin to the starting PG slot but the Knicks could stand to a decent back-up that is a pure point(i.e. not Shumpert, he's good don't get me wrong, but not a long term solution for the PG problem). The problem I ran into with them is outside of Melo, Amare, and Chandler the rest of team is weak and the 'sellers' in my universe are already strong at postions that the Knicks have moveable players at. For example, I looked into trading D.J. Augustine from the Bobcats to the Knicks. But who would Charlotte take back? Renaldo Balkman seems like a likely trade candidate but what good is he for Charlotte really?

          Anyway, I didn't intend for this to be such a long post, sorry.

          I'm open to any suggetions and appreciate anyone who is willing to give me a hand. Keep in mind this is an 'alternate reality' not the real NBA, so some players that are tradeable in real life aren't in my association and vice versa. I may need to wait a little longer and hope the gap between playoff contenders/non-contenders widens a bit, but I don't want to be pulling off a ton moves right at the deadline either.
          "You come at the King, you best not miss..."

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          • Dpauley23
            Rookie
            • Jan 2011
            • 303

            #755
            Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

            Originally posted by qpc123
            Ok guys I need some help coming up with trade ideas for my association.

            I'm a little over half way through my 1st season, 30 team control but I only play the Thunder games.

            I'm coming up to the time when teams should start making some moves, but I'm having a hard determining what teams are buyers vs. sellers etc.

            I'll give a little background info on what is going on in my NBA universe, but if you want a little more here is the link to my dyansty thread: http://www.operationsports.com/forum...post2043345439

            In the West all the teams that would not make the playoffs if they started today are within 2 games of the 8 seed, except the Clippers who are basically out of it(can't figure out why this team is struggling so much but it is what it is).

            In the East it's a better/more realistic spread as the Cavs, Pistons, Wizards and Bobcats are out of it, so they are definetly in the sellers catagory.

            I plan on waiting until after the all-star to move Dwight Howard, and he's been pretty well covered in the thread already. Lakers are out of the running for as A) they are leaading their division and second in the west and B) Andrew Bynum just went down for the season with a torn MCL.

            I spent a good hour + trying to find moves that would realistic if my NBA univerese were real(if that makes any sense). For example Boston has the best record in the league in my association so they won't be looking to move any of the Big 3 or Rondo as they are set up for one last title run. I'll have to deal with them in the offseason.

            I looked into to geting Utah another PF since Paul Millsap is out for 6-8 weeks a broken arm, but the teams would be willing to deal seem to be riddled with bad contracts. I'm sure they'd like to get rid of them but I don't want to burden Utah with a bad contract for a fill-in player since Millsap will return eventually.

            Same goes for the Knicks as Baron Davis is out with a broken back. I moved Lin to the starting PG slot but the Knicks could stand to a decent back-up that is a pure point(i.e. not Shumpert, he's good don't get me wrong, but not a long term solution for the PG problem). The problem I ran into with them is outside of Melo, Amare, and Chandler the rest of team is weak and the 'sellers' in my universe are already strong at postions that the Knicks have moveable players at. For example, I looked into trading D.J. Augustine from the Bobcats to the Knicks. But who would Charlotte take back? Renaldo Balkman seems like a likely trade candidate but what good is he for Charlotte really?

            Anyway, I didn't intend for this to be such a long post, sorry.

            I'm open to any suggetions and appreciate anyone who is willing to give me a hand. Keep in mind this is an 'alternate reality' not the real NBA, so some players that are tradeable in real life aren't in my association and vice versa. I may need to wait a little longer and hope the gap between playoff contenders/non-contenders widens a bit, but I don't want to be pulling off a ton moves right at the deadline either.
            My best advice for when you have teams close to get is only teams that have realistic shot at going far in the playoffs should really be acquiring players. As for teams already out of race, here are the players I would move: Ramon Sessions, Anderson Vareajo, Nick Young, Ronny Turiaf, and D.J. Augustin.

            One interesting deal would be Ramon Sessions and Renaldo Balkman to Lakers, Steve Blake to Knicks, and Matt Barnes, Toney Douglas, and Jerome Jordan to Cavs.

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            • qpc123
              MVP
              • Jul 2003
              • 3773

              #756
              Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

              Originally posted by Dpauley23
              My best advice for when you have teams close to get is only teams that have realistic shot at going far in the playoffs should really be acquiring players. As for teams already out of race, here are the players I would move: Ramon Sessions, Anderson Vareajo, Nick Young, Ronny Turiaf, and D.J. Augustin.

              One interesting deal would be Ramon Sessions and Renaldo Balkman to Lakers, Steve Blake to Knicks, and Matt Barnes, Toney Douglas, and Jerome Jordan to Cavs.
              Thanks man, I think I just needed one good idea to get the ball rolling, for whatever reason I couldn't think of any decent trades for the past couple days. I made the Sessions/Blake/Barnes trade. I have Sessions coming off the bench(for right now may change depending on the teams play after the move) for L.A. and moved Ebanks into the starting 5 in place of Barnes(could have been Metta but I think L.A. would opt for getting Ebanks a shot to start with), Blake is now the back-up for Lin(again subject to change), Douglas starts for the Cavs at SG and Barnes is more or less the 6th man.

              For the Jazz situation(Millsap inured) I just signed Josh Powell of the FA list since Favors will get the bulk of the minutes, no need for them to give away young talent for a short term back-up.
              Last edited by qpc123; 02-08-2012, 08:50 PM.
              "You come at the King, you best not miss..."

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              • Slyone14
                MVP
                • Dec 2011
                • 1035

                #757
                Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

                when someone gets a sec, would they mind taking a look at the favors trade for my raptors, and tell me if its fair, if not how would you adjust it. Thank you again, sorry for repetitions

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                • Slyone14
                  MVP
                  • Dec 2011
                  • 1035

                  #758
                  Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

                  Here is one from espn.com that i am going to put in my chise, and it is one i recommend you put in also.

                  "
                  Bonner, Anderson and a first-round pick to Memphis for O.J. Mayo



                  Mayo would solve the wing scoring issue for the Spurs, and when Ginobili returns, Mayo would add firepower off the bench. His addition might not help the defense but could turn San Antonio into the league's best offense.
                  Mayo also provides the variance that could help the Spurs score an upset in the playoffs. His career high in points, for example, is more than Bonner's and Anderson's combined; when he's hot, the guy goes off. He may keep the ball from Tony Parker and Ginobili more than desired, but that's the risk San Antonio may need to take to win it all." espn.com

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                  • qpc123
                    MVP
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 3773

                    #759
                    Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

                    Here's another trade I'm kicking around:

                    Cavs receive:
                    J. O'Neal
                    S. Pavlovic
                    2012 1st round pick

                    Celtics receive:
                    Varejao
                    Erden

                    Reasoning: Cavs get rid of Varejao contract, O'Neal has 1 year left so it free's up cap space for them. Celtics get a hustle/rebounding/defense center to fill the gap that was left when they traded Perkins. Pavilovic and Erden are throw ins to make the $ work. Cleveland also gets what will most likely be a late first round pick, but this is a deep draft class(I'm using chillad/beds 2012 class). I thought about making it the 2013 first from the Celtics, but I don't think that draft is that deep and Celtics may not fall off too far if they make a good run(this season) and keep either KG or Allen(most likely both will leave) or if they land a decent FA. Thoughts?
                    "You come at the King, you best not miss..."

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                    • qpc123
                      MVP
                      • Jul 2003
                      • 3773

                      #760
                      Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

                      Originally posted by Slyone14
                      when someone gets a sec, would they mind taking a look at the favors trade for my raptors, and tell me if its fair, if not how would you adjust it. Thank you again, sorry for repetitions
                      Seems fair to me, I would most likely make it Davis and not Bargnani, but it depends on how your association is going. In mine Bargnani is a top scorer in the league and could be a better long term answer than Davis(in 2k land at least).
                      "You come at the King, you best not miss..."

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                      • qpc123
                        MVP
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 3773

                        #761
                        Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

                        Originally posted by Slyone14
                        Here is one from espn.com that i am going to put in my chise, and it is one i recommend you put in also.

                        "
                        Bonner, Anderson and a first-round pick to Memphis for O.J. Mayo



                        Mayo would solve the wing scoring issue for the Spurs, and when Ginobili returns, Mayo would add firepower off the bench. His addition might not help the defense but could turn San Antonio into the league's best offense.
                        Mayo also provides the variance that could help the Spurs score an upset in the playoffs. His career high in points, for example, is more than Bonner's and Anderson's combined; when he's hot, the guy goes off. He may keep the ball from Tony Parker and Ginobili more than desired, but that's the risk San Antonio may need to take to win it all." espn.com
                        I like this in principle, however I don't see it going down in my 2k univerese, here's why. In my association the Grizzlies and Spurs are the 7th and 8th seeds respectively(if the playoffs started today) and separated by a half game. Manu is healthy and I don't see why (in my situation) the Grizz would want to trade a good player to a team that is fighting them for the last playoff spot. If the situation changes closer to the deadline I will revisit this idea.
                        Last edited by qpc123; 02-08-2012, 09:16 PM.
                        "You come at the King, you best not miss..."

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                        • Dpauley23
                          Rookie
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 303

                          #762
                          Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

                          Originally posted by qpc123
                          Here's another trade I'm kicking around:

                          Cavs receive:
                          J. O'Neal
                          S. Pavlovic
                          2012 1st round pick

                          Celtics receive:
                          Varejao
                          Erden

                          Reasoning: Cavs get rid of Varejao contract, O'Neal has 1 year left so it free's up cap space for them. Celtics get a hustle/rebounding/defense center to fill the gap that was left when they traded Perkins. Pavilovic and Erden are throw ins to make the $ work. Cleveland also gets what will most likely be a late first round pick, but this is a deep draft class(I'm using chillad/beds 2012 class). I thought about making it the 2013 first from the Celtics, but I don't think that draft is that deep and Celtics may not fall off too far if they make a good run(this season) and keep either KG or Allen(most likely both will leave) or if they land a decent FA. Thoughts?
                          I would probably add the Clipper's 2011 1st rounder too. Other than that, looks good

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                          • qpc123
                            MVP
                            • Jul 2003
                            • 3773

                            #763
                            Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

                            Originally posted by Dpauley23
                            I would probably add the Clipper's 2011 1st rounder too. Other than that, looks good
                            Right, I forgot to check the receive column in the draft pick section of the guide, I only checked to make sure that Boston had their pick. Should it just be the Clippers pick form Boston to Cleveland then? Lob City is the worst team in the West right now, Boston gets the pick if it's top 11 which is almost certain at this point. Two first round picks(even if one is a late one) seems like a lot for Varejao.

                            I will probably wait a few days in the schedule before I do it so it's not a rush on late January trades but it defiantly going down.

                            Lakers and Knicks both lost their 1st games after the trade. Sessions had 15 off the bench for the Lakers, he may be starting sooner rather than later.
                            Last edited by qpc123; 02-08-2012, 09:36 PM.
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                            • Dpauley23
                              Rookie
                              • Jan 2011
                              • 303

                              #764
                              Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

                              Originally posted by qpc123
                              Right, I forgot to check the receive column in the draft pick section of the guide, I only checked to make sure that Boston had their pick. Should it just be the Clippers pick form Boston to Cleveland then? Lob City is the worst team in the West right now, Boston gets the pick if it's top 11 which is almost certain at this point. Two first round picks(even if one is a late one) seems like a lot for Varejao.

                              I will probably wait a few days in the schedule before I do it so it's not a rush on late January trades but it defiantly going down.

                              Lakers and Knicks both lost their 1st games after the trade. Sessions had 15 off the bench for the Lakers, he may be starting sooner rather than later.
                              I agree two 1st rounders is a lot, but the Cav's are getting some pretty crappy players back. Plus the 1st rounder from Celtics wouldn't be that great of a pick

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                              • qpc123
                                MVP
                                • Jul 2003
                                • 3773

                                #765
                                Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

                                Originally posted by Dpauley23
                                I agree two 1st rounders is a lot, but the Cav's are getting some pretty crappy players back. Plus the 1st rounder from Celtics wouldn't be that great of a pick
                                I may make it the Celtics 2013 1st rounder, that way the Celtics still gets a 1st round pick this year to try and find a replacement for KG or Ray Allen. Cleveland still gets two first, the Clips 2012(via Boston) and Celtics 2013 which will most likely be a higher pick than their 2012 pick.
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