So, 2k doesn't believe in 'shot clock cheese'...your thoughts?

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  • slimm44
    MVP
    • Sep 2005
    • 3253

    #91
    Re: So, 2k doesn't believe in 'shot clock cheese'...your thoughts?

    Originally posted by Boilerbuzz
    You mean in traffic, not transition, correct? That rating is there and works as you described. It's just one and I think that's enough.

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    Yup, meant in Traffic. I think it would aid realism to have it split up between the 4 shooting areas, but we can agree to disagree. It's all good.
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    • demfl
      Pro
      • Jun 2009
      • 585

      #92
      Re: So, 2k doesn't believe in 'shot clock cheese'...your thoughts?

      A Way to Cheese back against the shot clock cheese!

      When 5 sec is left on the shot clock pull up the double team icon to see which off ball player is closer to the shooter, once 2 sec hit call the double team and the AI will be stuck in the animation and get a shot clock violation.

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      • kabluey
        Rookie
        • Aug 2012
        • 14

        #93
        Re: So, 2k doesn't believe in 'shot clock cheese'...your thoughts?

        yes i believe its real. its the fact that the cpu scrubs can shoot a clutch 3 in yo face when you got your hands up. this happened to me in the 4 quarter with like 10 seconds remaining. wtf, i could've lost the game cause of a no name scrub. everyone shouldn't play be able to play like melo.

        Say the cpu misses a 3 point shot, they get the rebound then they quickly pass to an open shooter in the 3 point line, they make the shot 70% of the time after that. has this happen to anyone else? i try to do the same thing but I end up missing 2 in a row even though they were open, its not fair.

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        • thilanwij
          Rookie
          • Mar 2012
          • 226

          #94
          Re: So, 2k doesn't believe in 'shot clock cheese'...your thoughts?

          Originally posted by demfl
          A Way to Cheese back against the shot clock cheese!

          When 5 sec is left on the shot clock pull up the double team icon to see which off ball player is closer to the shooter, once 2 sec hit call the double team and the AI will be stuck in the animation and get a shot clock violation.
          Imma give that a try, thanks!

          Double teams are sometimes ******** though, cuz the the double teaming teammate doesn't fully trap the offensive player, haha.

          And what if he's on Iso? Nobody close enough to catch him on a double, so I'll just put my hands up or just time the block right (risky tho).
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          • JerzeyReign
            MVP
            • Jul 2009
            • 4847

            #95
            Re: So, 2k doesn't believe in 'shot clock cheese'...your thoughts?

            Dig this -- somebody give me their sliders and I'll record a video to spot this mysteriously cheese you guys see.
            #WashedGamer

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            • I Djm
              MVP
              • Feb 2011
              • 1297

              #96
              Re: So, 2k doesn't believe in 'shot clock cheese'...your thoughts?

              Originally posted by JerzeyReign
              Dig this -- somebody give me their sliders and I'll record a video to spot this mysteriously cheese you guys see.

              just play my player hof sim and you will see it
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              • Boilerbuzz
                D* B**rs!
                • Jul 2002
                • 5154

                #97
                Re: So, 2k doesn't believe in 'shot clock cheese'...your thoughts?

                Originally posted by I Djm
                just play my player hof sim and you will see it
                HOF by ITSELF is cheese! That - I'm sure - the devs will agree with because I think that's the intent of that level. It's supposed to be like "INSANE" difficulty in Doom. Or is that "NIGHTMARE"?

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                • JasonMartin
                  Pro
                  • May 2012
                  • 977

                  #98
                  Re: So, 2k doesn't believe in 'shot clock cheese'...your thoughts?

                  I was playing against the CPU today, Miami (cpu) vs Spurs.

                  5 seconds left in the 2nd quarter, Norris Cole brings the ball up. I got Jackson in his face, glued to him. 1 sec left, he jumps, I go up and I got my hands IN HIS FACE AND ON THE BALL and it just goes over me and straight through the net. Unbelievable, difficulty was superstar or all star (the one before HOF).

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                  • magicman32
                    Pro
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 803

                    #99
                    Re: So, 2k doesn't believe in 'shot clock cheese'...your thoughts?

                    Shot clock cheese definitely exists. lol The 2k crew are funny.

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                    • LD2k
                      2K Sports Community Manager
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 1261

                      #100
                      Re: So, 2k doesn't believe in 'shot clock cheese'...your thoughts?

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                      • sword1986
                        Banned
                        • Nov 2011
                        • 1041

                        #101
                        Re: So, 2k doesn't believe in 'shot clock cheese'...your thoughts?

                        I am going to test out these two things:

                        Test 1:
                        As soon as the shot clock is running out and I am defending the shooter - pause the game, go to Choose Side and have the CPU defend the CPU and see if the CPU can stop the CPU from shotclock cheesing.

                        Test 2:
                        Same instance with the shot clock... I am going to switch sides to the other team and try to make the shot myself.

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                        • demfl
                          Pro
                          • Jun 2009
                          • 585

                          #102
                          Re: So, 2k doesn't believe in 'shot clock cheese'...your thoughts?

                          Well technically the shot clock cheese might not exist. I played 2k12 long enough to realize many times shot quality means nothing for the CPU. The CPU is programmed to shoot at a higher % compared to the User anyway. That's why you can max out the 3pt shot, consistency, perfect release and still miss 5 straight compared to the computer being 90% when shooting a open midrange jumper and probably 80% good when shooting a open 3.

                          I believe the CPU shooting in general is cheese . It's just so happens the CPU takes last second shots because us users can play great D for 20 sec.

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                          • thilanwij
                            Rookie
                            • Mar 2012
                            • 226

                            #103
                            Re: So, 2k doesn't believe in 'shot clock cheese'...your thoughts?

                            Originally posted by sword1986
                            I am going to test out these two things:

                            Test 1:
                            As soon as the shot clock is running out and I am defending the shooter - pause the game, go to Choose Side and have the CPU defend the CPU and see if the CPU can stop the CPU from shotclock cheesing.

                            Test 2:
                            Same instance with the shot clock... I am going to switch sides to the other team and try to make the shot myself.
                            You'll definitely have to do that multiple times each because every shot has different factors about it. Interested to see the results for this! I really hate that shot clock cheese crap lol
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                            • JerzeyReign
                              MVP
                              • Jul 2009
                              • 4847

                              #104
                              Re: So, 2k doesn't believe in 'shot clock cheese'...your thoughts?

                              I'm a shot clock cheese non believer -- I have my video showing myself playing on HOF sim with no shot clock cheese present. Which believer is going to show me consistent shot clock cheese?

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                              #WashedGamer

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                              • demfl
                                Pro
                                • Jun 2009
                                • 585

                                #105
                                Re: So, 2k doesn't believe in 'shot clock cheese'...your thoughts?

                                Originally posted by JerzeyReign
                                I'm a shot clock cheese non believer -- I have my video showing myself playing on HOF sim with no shot clock cheese present. Which believer is going to show me consistent shot clock cheese?


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                                I will repeat my observation of what I said earlier about the shot clock cheese. The CPU shot quality shooting is where the cheese comes into play. It became know as the shot clock cheese because the CPU tends to hold onto the ball until the very end. If you have shot quality on for all shots you will notice the CPU making a ridiculous amount of d and F quality contested jumpers.



                                So next time you make a video turn on shot quality and you will see the Cheese with the CPU shooting.
                                Last edited by demfl; 09-03-2012, 06:19 PM.

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