This is why you are missing open jumpshots.

[JasonWilliams55]

Re: This is why you are missing open jumpshots.

By casual he means casual settings, flip through the slider settings and you can see the difference between them. Casual makes the game easier by boosting some sliders above 50. Sim lowers some sliders making the game "harder" and default makes everything 50 meaning it plays to exactly what the ratings are in the roster section.

If all of this is coming from MyTeam its because the game settings are too easy that is why Korver can make a sidehop 3 pointer with defense.

[DigiMich]

Re: This is why you are missing open jumpshots.

By casual he means casual settings, flip through the slider settings and you can see the difference between them. Casual makes the game easier by boosting some sliders above 50. Sim lowers some sliders making the game "harder" and default makes everything 50 meaning it plays to exactly what the ratings are in the roster section.

If all of this is coming from MyTeam its because the game settings are too easy that is why Korver can make a sidehop 3 pointer with defense.

Christ.....Jesus.

[Crapula]

Re: This is why you are missing open jumpshots.

Do the plays on each team try to get your players to take shots from the hot spots? I use the warriors and run plays a lot but still miss wide open shots.

It would make sense that the plays are just random nonsense and have nothing to do with the players actual tendencies and hot spots (you know, make sense in the 2k sort of way).

[DigiMich]

Re: This is why you are missing open jumpshots.

Do the plays on each team try to get your players to take shots from the hot spots? I use the warriors and run plays a lot but still miss wide open shots.

It would make sense that the plays are just random nonsense and have nothing to do with the players actual tendencies and hot spots (you know, make sense in the 2k sort of way).

Thats a good question.......I do wonder if the plays send players to their hot spots. *** **** thank you for saving my sanity.

One of the problems is that there is no visual indication while in the game. You would basically have to memorize the hot zones of each player.

[JasonWilliams55]

Re: This is why you are missing open jumpshots.

Thats a good question.......I do wonder if the plays send players to their hot spots. *** **** thank you for saving my sanity.

One of the problems is that there is no visual indication while in the game. You would basically have to memorize the hot zones of each player.

The controller rumbles in a hot zone, the bars go up in a hot zone so that is untrue that you have no indications.

[Optik]

Re: This is why you are missing open jumpshots.

Wat?

Science experiments 101. You have to test by taking out as many factors as you can...not by adding a bunch of arbitrary ones. The mode you are in is irrelevant, the defense is irreverent.

If it was a truly scientific experiment, you would have got a controller that can record your input (pressing the shoot button), and gotten it so it gives the exact same release every time. The way it is now, there is too much room for human error.

[tetoleetd]

Re: This is why you are missing open jumpshots.

It's wrong.

It's not overpowered like you make it sound. It just increases the chances a shot has to go in depending on ratings and defense. It's not like you make it sound as if a bad mid range shooter becomes a beast all of a sudden just because he's in a hot zone. No, he just gets a little boost.

zones make sense because they represent real life player's confort zones.

Besides wide open shot missed happen every games from every players, you shoudn't be surprised.

i think hot zones make already great shooters get a cheesy boost. their ratings are already high enough to dictate they'll make a good percentage.

also, hot zones are an issue in association mode. someone like john wall who has tons of potential is stuck with nearly every mid and 3 zone as a cold zone. what if he improves in a couple seasons and should be a decent jump shooter? his cold zones wouldnt allow it.

[Vni]

Re: This is why you are missing open jumpshots.

Christ.....Jesus.

Just answering some of YOUR own posts man.

You say you see a lot of Novak and Korver, I know it's off topic, but you're the one talking about it lol. I'd guess that's probably because they are cheaper and if I was a casual I would like theses guys on my team especialy in this mode wich emphasis offense and outside shooting and not defense.

I don't want Korver in my team as a starter that's all I know. He's a missmatch.

[Vni]

Re: This is why you are missing open jumpshots.

i think hot zones make already great shooters get a cheesy boost. their ratings are already high enough to dictate they'll make a good percentage.

also, hot zones are an issue in association mode. someone like john wall who has tons of potential is stuck with nearly every mid and 3 zone as a cold zone. what if he improves in a couple seasons and should be a decent jump shooter? his cold zones wouldnt allow it.

Wall has cold zone because he's been shooting a very low %age.

If he improves, he will not have thoses cold zones anymore.

e/ I see what you're saying now. You mean if you play many years of your association, right? Well then yes you're right, my bad.

[DigiMich]

Re: This is why you are missing open jumpshots.

The controller rumbles in a hot zone, the bars go up in a hot zone so that is untrue that you have no indications.

Uhhh....show me then. Even in that video in the OP I walk around the entire court and see very little visual change. It changes the far away you get from the rim but it doesnt change from side to side entering and exiting hot zones.

I have only ever felt a rumble one time...it also glowed...I happened to be Steve Novak at the time.

I think you guys have to do a little less of the just saying things and more of the...getting evidence to prove what you are saying. I have heard interpretations of what developers say, I have heard personal shot timing feedback stories, I have heard the definition of casual.....

Not so much of the showing of what you are talking about. I am all ready to be proven completely wrong....but a little more than just saying thing would help.

[tetoleetd]

Re: This is why you are missing open jumpshots.

Wall has cold zone because he's been shooting a very low %age.

If he improves, he will not have thoses cold zones anymore.

no, the zones dont change in association mode. the players have the same hot/cold/neutral zones throughout their career. ive boosted john wall's shooting ratings into the 80's before and his zones remained cold.

[Vni]

Re: This is why you are missing open jumpshots.

no, the zones dont change in association mode. the players have the same hot/cold/neutral zones throughout their career. ive boosted john wall's shooting ratings into the 80's before and his zones remained cold.

Yeah just figured out what you meant.

[tetoleetd]

Re: This is why you are missing open jumpshots.

The controller rumbles in a hot zone, the bars go up in a hot zone so that is untrue that you have no indications.

ive never once felt my controller rumble while playing 2k and i also never see these bars under my players.

[DigiMich]

Re: This is why you are missing open jumpshots.

Just answering some of YOUR own posts man.

You say you see a lot of Novak and Korver, I know it's off topic, but you're the one talking about it lol. I'd guess that's probably because they are cheaper and if I was a casual I would like theses guys on my team especialy in this mode wich emphasis offense and outside shooting and not defense.

I don't want Korver in my team as a starter that's all I know. He's a missmatch.

Reductio ad absurdum meaning reduction to absurdity.

Everything most of you say is getting further and further away from the point of the thread. It doesnt matter what casual means, it doesnt matter about defense, it doesnt matter about gamemodes, it doesnt matter if you feel the shot timing is off (actually that matters just a smidge but not until you can actual prove that the shot indicator is indeed wrong)


There was only 1 question asked. How do hot zones affect shot percentages of wide open set shots? And to a lesser extent is it better to have a person with more hotzones or better stats?

Thats it.

Most of you havent even addressed the question because you are too busy talking about things that were never factors to begin with. If it doesnt answer the question that asked then its irrelevant. I dont want to get caught debating a bunch of stuff that have nothing to do with the question at hand.


You keep bringing why people have certain hotzones...NO ONE IS DEBATING IT!!!! It doesnt matter why Wall has certain hotzones...the question is how the the hotzones that he has affect gameplay.

[JasonWilliams55]

Re: This is why you are missing open jumpshots.

Uhhh....show me then. Even in that video in the OP I walk around the entire court and see very little visual change. It changes the far away you get from the rim but it doesnt change from side to side entering and exiting hot zones.

I have only ever felt a rumble one time...it also glowed...I happened to be Steve Novak at the time.

I think you guys have to do a little less of the just saying things and more of the...getting evidence to prove what you are saying. I have heard interpretations of what developers say, I have heard personal shot timing feedback stories, I have heard the definition of casual.....

Not so much of the showing of what you are talking about. I am all ready to be proven completely wrong....but a little more than just saying thing would help.

Bolded.

SERIOUSLY?

I posted the DEV insight and you dismissed it saying it doesn't say anything, no one interpreted it, I quoted it. It does not say any boost are applied, it just says makes more, makes less, who cares how, just know it does. It does not however make a player unstoppable if they are shooting from a red zone. In regards to settings, they do matter, MyTeam is too easy as many have said that is why you see everyone with Korver and other 3pt shooters only.

Also you either missed it or you didn't read the DEV Insight I posted as it clearly says

If you have force feedback on, when you move the player into the Red areas, your controller will rumble. For those that have noticed this rumble in past versions of NBA 2K, it was telling you that you were in a player’s Red Zone. ... Move into any area other than Red and the rumble will stop. The rumble will carry over to regular gameplay to remind you that you’re in the player’s Red zone.