NBA 2k14 Dribbling Questions and Tips

[JerzeyReign]

Re: NBA 2k14's Dribbling questions

Escape Dribbles:

I can't get similar escape dribbles using the pro stick (I'm aware circle doesn't trigger them this year) - any tips of how to pull a basic one off? Right now I'm using the "basic escape" and then doing whatever dribble move fits the situation but I'm having trouble pulling off something like Wade's classic step back between the leg dribble escape pull up.

Dribbling In The Post:

I'm struggling pulling off simple things in the post this year like leaning to create space. Is it still in there? I've been trying for awhile now and can't get it to engage.

Thanks for your time.

[jersez]

Re: NBA 2k14's Dribbling questions

Explosives launches are still timed windows this years it seems, and the sizeups are much quicker and I think that's one of the reasons people aren't getting explosive launch crossovers. But even when I'm within the window to explode the ball handler does this jog and doesn't explode. Not talking about the new cross the ball to hand explosives launch.

[kevmasood]

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BELUBA, What configuration is the pro stick, SHOTS/ISOMOTION, or ISOMOTION/SHOTS, im not worried about dribbling at this moment, this is going to sound stupid, but i can not throw flashy passes, i was a directional passer, and was very good at it, that abilty is throwing me off in 2k14

[Beluba]

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BELUBA, What configuration is the pro stick, SHOTS/ISOMOTION, or ISOMOTION/SHOTS, im not worried about dribbling at this moment, this is going to sound stupid, but i can not throw flashy passes, i was a directional passer, and was very good at it, that abilty is throwing me off in 2k14

Not sure I understand the questions... but SHOTS/ISOMOTION and ISOMOTION/SHOTS are 2k13 settings. The first is your primary Control Stick action, the 2nd is the one you get when you hold L2 (LT).

The Pro Stick puts both Isomotion and Shots on the RS with no modifiers. Tap for Moves, Hold for shots. This is the default config in the shipped game. When you hold L2 (LT) the Right Stick is used for flashy passing.

[JerzeyReign]

Re: NBA 2k14's Dribbling questions

Escape Dribbles:

I can't get similar escape dribbles using the pro stick (I'm aware circle doesn't trigger them this year) - any tips of how to pull a basic one off? Right now I'm using the "basic escape" and then doing whatever dribble move fits the situation but I'm having trouble pulling off something like Wade's classic step back between the leg dribble escape pull up.

Dribbling In The Post:

I'm struggling pulling off simple things in the post this year like leaning to create space. Is it still in there? I've been trying for awhile now and can't get it to engage.

Thanks for your time.

I figured out the leaning and fakes.

[amedawg00]

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Beluba, what gives with the double shimmy post fades and shots. The manual says RT and LS left, right, and away from the hoop, but the inputs dont work for the shimmy or double shimmy post fades or shots into brancheable up and unders like old 2ks. Can we please get some clarification on that. Thanks for your work on a fantastic game

[Beluba]

Re: NBA 2k14's Dribbling questions

Beluba, what gives with the double shimmy post fades and shots. The manual says RT and LS left, right, and away from the hoop, but the inputs dont work for the shimmy or double shimmy post fades or shots into brancheable up and unders like old 2ks. Can we please get some clarification on that. Thanks for your work on a fantastic game

Shimmy shots are RT+RS away left or right. You have to hold the shot stick not Left stick.

[amedawg00]

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Shimmy shots are RT+RS away left or right. You have to hold the shot stick not Left stick.

got it...thanks!...wasnt holding the pro stick....

[Chairman7w]

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Yes the protect dribble comes in handy.

Protect dribble? What's this? I don't see this in the Advanced Controls thread anywhere.

[JasonWilliams55]

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Protect dribble? What's this? I don't see this in the Advanced Controls thread anywhere.

Just press Y/Triangle, its the same button as Post Up.

[Rebel_INS]

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Is there a way to do signature gathers leading into a jump shot like when u hit the B button of a stand still last year?

[Chairman7w]

Re: NBA 2k14's Dribbling questions

Just press Y/Triangle, its the same button as Post Up.

Oh, okay - gotcha! Thanks.

Nice avatar, btw

[Beluba]

Re: NBA 2k14's Dribbling questions

Is there a way to do signature gathers leading into a jump shot like when u hit the B button of a stand still last year?

Sig gathers from 13 are gone. Instead of playing out canned dribble to shot sequences, I wanted users to be able to chain moves and shots together to have the freedom to create those types of gathers on their own. I'd have to go back and look at the animations from last year, but I'm pretty sure you can do nearly the exact same things this year by chaining certain things together.

For example, one of them started with a behind the back launch from a stand. This year, you do that by starting a standing behind the back move and then immediately moving the Left Stick toward the off hand. Instead of playing a normal behind the back sizeup dribble, he'll do a behind the back launch. There are a lot of break out points within the various iso moves that allow you to create very different looking outcomes. The Left Stick and Right Stick work together that way.

[Sundown]

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Sort of both. The way we originally had it working, the shooter would try to find a layup as close to the direction the RS was held... so essentially, doing what you're asking for (letting you pick the finish direction.)

But in our play tests, a great number of people pushed toward the basket to get a regular layup, expecting the shooter to automatically avoid defenders. The problem is, most people are inaccurate with their stick throws, so even though they thought they were pushing slightly to the left of the rim to finish on that side, they were actually aiming toward the right and putting the ball right into the defense. So my shot system engineer spent a great deal of time working on shot selection algorithms to pick the best layup given the shooter's drive angle and defender proximity. This work greatly benefited shot button users btw. So after much back and forth, we made the decision to use the auto-shot selection code instead of the literal follow the stick method. In 5-on-5 gameplay, we just found that it was beneficial to more users.

Having said that, I'm working with my engineer to try and bring the finish hand selection back. It will definitely be there in the NextGen version and hopefully make it into the current gen patch as well.

That sounds fantastic. Regarding inaccurate stick throws, would it help to have the stick have a bit of a deadzone, so that deflection towards the slight left/right of the basket leads to the use of the auto-shot selection code, and more explicit displacement of the stick leads to a forced left/right handed layup?

Would it be possible to bring back manual reverse dunk as well (we don't really need RS-back *and* RT+RS-back for runners).

I'm also curious about the philosophy behind changing the euro-step controls. Is RS-left/right layup now meant to be thought of as a general sidestep-avoidance layup which might not always be an explicit euro-step? It seems that not every side-layup triggered results in the classic Manu-Wade-Harden euro-step with huge side-steps, but might trigger other avoidance layups with appropriate ball protection moves on the way to the hole.

If the change was made so that you still control when to do a side-step avoidance layup, but without having classic euro-step layups trigger for inappropriate players, that actually makes a lot of sense.

[sirjam]

Re: NBA 2k14's Dribbling questions

Sig gathers from 13 are gone. Instead of playing out canned dribble to shot sequences, I wanted users to be able to chain moves and shots together to have the freedom to create those types of gathers on their own. I'd have to go back and look at the animations from last year, but I'm pretty sure you can do nearly the exact same things this year by chaining certain things together.

For example, one of them started with a behind the back launch from a stand. This year, you do that by starting a standing behind the back move and then immediately moving the Left Stick toward the off hand. Instead of playing a normal behind the back sizeup dribble, he'll do a behind the back launch. There are a lot of break out points within the various iso moves that allow you to create very different looking outcomes. The Left Stick and Right Stick work together that way.

so its possible to do the Ginobili move also known as the Shammgod and a move Kyrie using now?