Dribble Move & Finish Move tendency update

[ONEFORALL]

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I tested putting commit fouls and contest shots sliders to 0. The FT numbers was a little lower than normal but not too much. i actually think you could put 0 to all tendency sliders and let the players own tendencies to decide what to do. Gotta test that though.

[pjt8405]

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Chia51:

Nice Work bro, Can I ask that you also look at the tendencies for leaners, Fade Aways, runners, etc... Just noticing that a lot of Fadeaways for players are extremely high...

[Jdoug312]

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Hey Chia, could you tell us when you update the rosters? I didn't know that you had an update out from the 18. Downloaded it and rated 5 of course, should I download the rosters from the 20th?

[Serra11]

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Coaching Sliders:
-Tempo
-Fast Break
-Bench

How did you determineted them???And about attack the basket(coach slider),have you an idea on how to find a good valor for each team???

[Colts18]

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Draw Fouls will be left alone, unless I can find some statistic to formalize into the game.

FTA per 40 mins * 10

Simple

[iameich]

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Update on the roster as of now: 4/21 230pm ESt

DC has the roster and is adding his touches and playbooks to it.

When he is finished I will be redoing all of the shot tendencies for players on a roster to include; shot tendency, inside, close, medium and 3pt shot tendencies. Will also be updating all teams coaching shot tendencies.

At that point this is what will have been done.

Coaching Sliders:
-Tempo
-Defensive Pressure
-Help D
-Fast Break
-Bench
-Shot Inside (Hoopdata.com)
-Shot Close (Hoopdata.com)
-Shot Medium (Hoopdata.com)
-Shot 3pt (Hoopdata.com)

Player Tendencies:
-Dribble Moves (not real world data)
-Finish Moves (not real world data)
-Shot Tendency (Hoopdata.com)
-Shot Inside (Hoopdata.com)
-Shot Close (Hoopdata.com)
-Shot Medium (Hoopdata.com)
-Shot 3pt (Hoopdata.com)
-Post Moves (not all players, not real world data)
-Touches (Hoopdata.com)
-Various other small updates to many players

I am also in the process of making a slider set to go with this roster. The slider set that I will be trying to create is going to be for the most realistic NBA basketball.

Goals for slider set/coaches tendencies/roster:
-NBA experience, you win some, you lose some. Some nights are rough, while some are perfect.
-Superstars are superstars for a reason!
-Great on ball Defenders are feared for a reason
-Realistic scores, FG% (Hoopdata.com)
-Realistic shots from where the teams shoot (Hoopdata.com)
-Realistic plays for players
-Realistic player tendencies for when the play breaks down
-Terrible defenders will get abused
-Will add some more to this list

if u accomplish everything on this list... i think these would be the ultimate tendencies & u will change the game forever!

let me know what i can do to help chia holla my dude.

[chia51]

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I tested putting commit fouls and contest shots sliders to 0. The FT numbers was a little lower than normal but not too much. i actually think you could put 0 to all tendency sliders and let the players own tendencies to decide what to do. Gotta test that though.

Agree... still need to figure out if 50 means no change or 0 means no change... that is the big question.

Nice Work bro, Can I ask that you also look at the tendencies for leaners, Fade Aways, runners, etc... Just noticing that a lot of Fadeaways for players are extremely high...

I may get into that after I finish all of this other stuff... but this would be extremely hard to do.

Hey Chia, could you tell us when you update the rosters? I didn't know that you had an update out from the 18. Downloaded it and rated 5 of course, should I download the rosters from the 20th?

Reason I did not say anything is that I did not want anyone who is not testing them out for me to get them as they are WIP and alot of team tends and player tends are jacked.

How did you determineted them???And about attack the basket(coach slider),have you an idea on how to find a good valor for each team???

Attack for coach slider will be 0 as it will default to the players tendency. I am still in the process of figuring out how the coach's tendency effects the players tendency.

FTA per 40 mins * 10. Simple

Thanks Colt, sent you a FR on here so we can chat if I ever see you online. DC has given me a ton of formulas as well. You got any others?

Update 4/22 @ 140am EST - Vertical, Strength and Potentials are being re-worked by DC.

Quote from DC "The Strength Formula I am using works well and produces good post battles, Verticals are based on age, play style, combine numbers and personal knowledge of the players".

[chia51]

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FTA per 40 mins * 10

Simple

Thanks, I took that and also used that for commit fouls. But I used 8 instead of 10 as Dwight Howard was 127 with 10.

[Colts18]

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You could have used 10. Dwight would have just been 100 since the system only allows for a max of 100. It is cool though.

[chia51]

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Yeah I redid it with 10 for both commit and draw.

[haloofduty]

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When do you think the roster will be done?

[chia51]

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When do you think the roster will be done?

Looking at a week atleast to get all the shot tends/fouls done. Then I will need some time to test and tweak sliders. Then I will finish up on the post moves for All Star players. So all in all 2 weeks, maybe sooner.

[Jdoug312]

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Man this wait is going to be killer! But I know that after these 2 weeks the roster will be absolutely perfect! I'm most definately starting my association after this. Kudos to you Chia, to you DC, and to everyone involved!

[chia51]

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Update: 4/23 330pm est

DC has completed all team playbooks and touches for all players. He is also redoing all players FT and 3pt ratings.

And to update the list of things being done:

Coaching Sliders:
-Tempo
-Defensive Pressure
-Help D
-Fast Break
-Alley Oops
-Post
-Attack the Basket
-Bench
-Shot Inside (Hoopdata.com)
-Shot Close (Hoopdata.com)
-Shot Medium (Hoopdata.com)
-Shot 3pt (Hoopdata.com)

Player Tendencies:
-Dribble Moves (not real world data)
-Finish Moves (not real world data)
-Shot Tendency (Hoopdata.com)
-Shot Inside (Hoopdata.com)
-Shot Close (Hoopdata.com)
-Shot Medium (Hoopdata.com)
-Shot 3pt (Hoopdata.com)
-Post Moves (not all players, not real world data)
-Touches (Hoopdata.com)
-Various other small updates to many players

Player Attributes:
FT Ratings (DC)
3pt Ratings (DC)
Strength Ratings (DC)
Potential Ratings (DC)
Vertical Ratings (DC)
Player Roles (DC)

[.hazee.]

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I'm guessing shoes/accessories are being done too?