The Purist(s) NBA 2K11 Sliders (Post-Patch)

[greenieblue]

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Yes, I rarely go for on-ball steals, even because the times I do it I get called for a foul. I must learn the timing, especially if I want to try steals down low.

Appreciate your effort Greenie. Lately I was here complaining and never giving new ideas, I know. But last week I discovered this silly All-Star Logic and got really disappointed. But I want to play this game, one way or another.

In my previous post I asked about the strength slider. Now another thing. Can On-Ball Defense go up a bit? This would make the CPU to be more hesitant on some occasion and commit turnovers on passes. In fact this happens when the pass receiver is more pressed and "feels" the on ball defense "force field" of the men is being covered from. It's just a guess.

I have never found a way to help CPU defenders navigate screens. I tried STR, DEF AWR, etc.

My worry about OBD+ is that it will hurt the User's ability to drive.

[Icebergslim gk]

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I have never found a way to help CPU defenders navigate screens. I tried STR, DEF AWR, etc.

My worry about OBD+ is that it will hurt the User's ability to drive.

That's the reason I play D the way I do. Can't have people shooting open jumpshots all over the place.

[Cesco]

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That's the reason I play D the way I do. Can't have people shooting open jumpshots all over the place.

...and that's the way CPU usually kills you when it goes on a run.

[MrMayface]

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If I use these sliders in a Association with a Fantasy Draft, do I need to change the team tendencies?

[JayD]

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can these be played on pro, all star feels very cheap!

[kidphoenix]

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don't know if this question was fielded or not, but since i'm too lazy to go through 120+ pages of posts:

is there any REAL difference in playing with shot stick timing vs. real player %?

is it a statistics thing or a "force the player to make the right choices" thing?

just curious either way...

other than that.. love the sliders.. i'm 19-19 with my philadelphia 76ers...

[andyacecandy]

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Yeah, it's not a roster thing unfortunately.

I'll try on PRO again. As I said before mu association (before trying AS) was 16-9 with Orlando (not 24-1), so I believe this could the level for the kind of basketball game I like to play. I remember one of my last AS game vs Toronto. In the pre game screen you could read OFF 30, DEF 30, OVR 30... well I lost by 25 points, against the worst team of the moment. As I said before maybe AS is not the level for me, and maybe it is for half the people reading this forum. I'm sure that I can win an AS game with patience and strategy, but when I see the cheap way the CPU catches up (and your team goes ice cold) I'd throw the controller out of the window, clear sign that I'm not having fun. And we are talking about a game (= having fun).

Yeah I'm gonna switch to pro as well.... im like 5-4 on all star and the losses are ridiculous and the wins are by like 3 pts. I know I suck but I've never been THAT bad at nba 2k games haha

the stats are realistic and nice but it's not fun losing with wild passes all over the place

[Icebergslim gk]

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Best game I've had so far. I was the Knicks and lost by a buzzer beater 3. I was actually down by in the 4th and came back to take the lead. I played with my team and I run good offense with them but my shots just weren't falling. I played on ball D the whole game and left the Defensive settings all on auto just to see how it would go.

[Icebergslim gk]

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Greenie I can't say for anyone else but these sliders are just about perfect for me. Job well done.

[pabby21]

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Yeah, it's not a roster thing unfortunately.

I'll try on PRO again. As I said before mu association (before trying AS) was 16-9 with Orlando (not 24-1), so I believe this could the level for the kind of basketball game I like to play. I remember one of my last AS game vs Toronto. In the pre game screen you could read OFF 30, DEF 30, OVR 30... well I lost by 25 points, against the worst team of the moment. As I said before maybe AS is not the level for me, and maybe it is for half the people reading this forum. I'm sure that I can win an AS game with patience and strategy, but when I see the cheap way the CPU catches up (and your team goes ice cold) I'd throw the controller out of the window, clear sign that I'm not having fun. And we are talking about a game (= having fun).

yeah Cesco I'm starting to agree with you. I LOVE the challenge and the exciting games on All Star and I LOVE the work Greenie has done....but I'll have maybe 1 amazing game then 3 blowouts which makes me think 'damn, what do I have to do?' haha....I'm getting better, I'm usually up by at least 8-10 points or down by that much by say end of a 3rd qtr, but 4th qtrs are KILLING me.....but I don't want to go back to pro coz I think too much will have to be tinkered with re sliders and I'd hate to bail on Greenie now!

[NiNjaPoOn619]

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Mavs/Blazers (me)
Score: 93/80
Field Goals: 36-74 (48%)/28-70(40%)
3'S: 6-13(46%)/5-17(29%)
Free throws: 15-18(83%)/19-24(79%)
assists: 28/15
turnovers: 18/24
rebounds: 37(5 off.)/37(6 off.)
steals: 14/16
Blocks: 4/3
PIP: 38/34
bench: 39/21
2nd chance: 2/4
fast break 4/6

Key Players:
Nowitzki 26 points 8 broads 3 steals
Terry 15 points 3 broads 3 steals 4/4 3pts
Butler 14 points 2 steals
Marion 11 points 6 broads 5 assists
Haywood 10 points 8 broads 2 blocks

Aldridge 28 points 8 broads 5 assists 2 blocks 5 TOs
Roy 11 points 4 broads 5 assists 5 steals 7 OTs

The game was close for the first three quarters as it goes back and forth. Then fourth quarter came and the Mavs got hot offensively, while my blazers were struggling with shots. There were quite a bit of turnovers for both teams. Some really bad passes and just some really bad AI. For example, a pass to a wide open person and he would throw it over his head or out of bound. You might want to tinker with the pass accuracy. There was also quite a bit of defending on the passing lane that led to steals. But I still love the slider as it gives me a real challenge. It seems like I have to work for every possession, and that's rewarding.

[Cesco]

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Greenie I can't say for anyone else but these sliders are just about perfect for me. Job well done.

These sliders ARE just about perfect for sure! The problem is you'll see a lot of buzzer beaters at the end of your games I'm afraid. The CPU simply don't like to be down and usually goes in catch up mode changing completely the way they play for a few minutes.

I'd love to see more consistency, even on the negative side. That's to say if a CPU team plays very bad the majority of the game, they deserve to lose in a bad way. This never happens on all-star. At one point CPU wakes up, gets very close and sometimes they win (that's the worst situation in this case) and sometimes they lose by 1 or 2 points. Poor bench players never have occasions to play :-D

[Cesco]

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yeah Cesco I'm starting to agree with you. I LOVE the challenge and the exciting games on All Star and I LOVE the work Greenie has done....but I'll have maybe 1 amazing game then 3 blowouts which makes me think 'damn, what do I have to do?' haha....I'm getting better, I'm usually up by at least 8-10 points or down by that much by say end of a 3rd qtr, but 4th qtrs are KILLING me.....but I don't want to go back to pro coz I think too much will have to be tinkered with re sliders and I'd hate to bail on Greenie now!

Yeah I know, I'd hate to do that. But as I wrote before and judging from my previous stats maybe PRO is the level for ME, for my style of play. In this case I'd be "alone" tinkering with the sliders (I'd use Greenie set as a base to start). I'm a bit negative at the moment, because I think this All-Star thing cannot be corrected. Please someone tell me that I'm so wrong ;-)

[t_SKY]

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a lot of buzzer beaters in the end is not realistic. chasing from a big lead on the 4th quarter not realistic as well. sorry greenie, but i use default as of now. i forgot the earlier versions of your slider. it gives a challenge but the results are unrealistic.

[Cesco]

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a lot of buzzer beaters in the end is not realistic. chasing from a big lead on the 4th quarter not realistic as well. sorry greenie, but i use default as of now. i forgot the earlier versions of your slider. it gives a challenge but the results are unrealistic.

I agree with you on the first part, but I don't agree on the slider part. I mean, on the slider side maybe something can be done, but the All-Star logic doesn't depend on Greenie sliders, it's a problem on its own. And that's the reason I'm worried about. If it was totally slider dependent it could be corrected. If it's hard coded it can't be corrected by users.