The Purist(s) NBA 2K11 Sliders (Post-Patch)
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I don't believe, it's up to me to finish this project? Seems so!!
Ok, here you go TWO games from good ol' Cesco. I used sliders as published, but not the coach edits, since I have Rashidi's rosters.
First game, the damned Wizards, they really are unstoppable and this time I played first class defense, really! They shoot too well, 57% from the field. Fouls were crazy on their side and almost non existent on mine. Really can't explain this. But the game was great, because I learned that the crazy behavior can be stopped. Here Lewis and Wall were simply too much for me, and Blatche added a perfect 5/5.
But the best part comes now! I thrashed the Heat in Miami!! Wooooow. Best game I ever played. I took the lead in the third and in the fourth Arenas ignited a super run shooting 3 consecutive 3's. Howard was a beast, with 37 points, 10 Rebs and 3 Blocks. In the first he blocked 7, averaging 5 blocks so far (!!). I committed few turnovers and made every player shoot ONLY in their comfort zone.
Let the images talk! This Heat game proved me a lot. But man, now I need a shower, this is crazy stuff for an almost 37 year old guy ;-D
Cessy! Mr f'n clutch.
Thanks, man.Originally posted by Fabian Avenarius Lloyd[...] a man of subtlety or refinement is almost always nothing but an idiot.Comment
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30 game project done.
Discuss.
<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="1528"><col style="width: 38pt;" width="50"> <col style="width: 47pt;" width="62"> <col style="width: 38pt;" span="2" width="51"> <col style="width: 32pt;" width="43"> <col style="width: 32pt;" width="42"> <col style="width: 44pt;" width="58"> <col style="width: 64pt;" width="85"> <col style="width: 44pt;" width="58"> <col style="width: 24pt;" width="32"> <col style="width: 31pt;" width="41"> <col style="width: 44pt;" width="58"> <col style="width: 43pt;" width="57"> <col style="width: 33pt;" width="44"> <col style="width: 32pt;" width="42"> <col style="width: 44pt;" width="58"> <col style="width: 43pt;" width="57"> <col style="width: 31pt;" width="41"> <col style="width: 31pt;" width="41"> <col style="width: 31pt;" width="41"> <col style="width: 32pt;" width="42"> <col style="width: 38pt;" width="50"> <col style="width: 38pt;" span="2" width="51"> <col style="width: 38pt;" width="51"> <col style="width: 38pt;" width="50"> <col style="width: 30pt;" width="40"> <col style="width: 38pt;" width="51"> <col style="width: 31pt;" width="41"> <col style="width: 32pt;" width="42"> <col style="width: 35pt;" width="47"> <tbody><tr style="height: 25.5pt;" height="34"> <td class="xl100" style="height: 25.5pt; width: 38pt;" height="34" width="50"> </td> <td class="xl101" style="border-left: medium none; width: 47pt;" width="62">Points</td> <td class="xl102" style="width: 38pt;" width="51">OEff</td> <td class="xl102" style="border-left: medium none; width: 38pt;" width="51">DEff</td> <td class="xl103" style="width: 32pt;" width="43">FGM</td> <td class="xl104" style="border-left: medium none; width: 32pt;" width="42">FGA</td> <td class="xl105" style="border-left: medium none; width: 44pt;" width="58">FG%</td> <td class="xl106" style="border-left: medium none; width: 64pt;" width="85">eFG%</td> <td class="xl106" style="border-left: medium none; width: 44pt;" width="58">TS%</td> <td class="xl104" style="border-left: medium none; width: 24pt;" width="32">3M</td> <td class="xl107" style="border-left: medium none; width: 31pt;" width="41">3A</td> <td class="xl108" style="border-left: medium none; width: 44pt;" width="58">3%</td> <td class="xl109" style="width: 43pt;" width="57">3PR</td> <td class="xl103" style="width: 33pt;" width="44">FTM</td> <td class="xl104" style="border-left: medium none; width: 32pt;" width="42">FTA</td> <td class="xl110" style="border-left: medium none; width: 44pt;" width="58">FTR</td> <td class="xl106" style="border-left: medium none; width: 43pt;" width="57">FT%</td> <td class="xl101" style="border-left: medium none; width: 31pt;" width="41">AST</td> <td class="xl102" style="width: 31pt;" width="41">AR</td> <td class="xl111" style="width: 31pt;" width="41">TO</td> <td class="xl102" style="width: 32pt;" width="42">TOR</td> <td class="xl111" style="width: 38pt;" width="50">OR</td> <td class="xl112" style="width: 38pt;" width="51">ORR</td> <td class="xl114" style="border-left: medium none; width: 38pt;" width="51">DRR</td> <td class="xl107" style="border-left: medium none; width: 38pt;" width="51">TR</td> <td class="xl102" style="border-left: medium none; width: 38pt;" width="50">TRR</td> <td class="xl104" style="border-left: medium none; width: 30pt;" width="40">BLK</td> <td class="xl102" style="border-left: medium none; width: 38pt;" width="51">BLKR</td> <td class="xl107" style="border-left: medium none; width: 31pt;" width="41">ST</td> <td class="xl102" style="border-left: medium none; width: 32pt;" width="42">DPR</td> <td class="xl102" style="border-left: medium none; width: 35pt;" width="47">PO</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 28.5pt;" height="38"> <td class="xl87" style="height: 28.5pt;" height="38">AVG</td> <td class="xl95" style="border-left: medium none;">102.8</td> <td class="xl87" style="border-left: medium none;">106.1</td> <td class="xl87" style="border-left: medium none;">106.1</td> <td class="xl95" style="border-left: medium none;">37.9</td> <td class="xl95" style="border-left: medium none;">80.0</td> <td class="xl96" style="border-left: medium none;">47.3%</td> <td class="xl96" style="border-left: medium none;">51.2%</td> <td class="xl96" style="border-left: medium none;">56.0%</td> <td class="xl95" style="border-left: medium none;">6.3</td> <td class="xl95" style="border-left: medium none;">16.7</td> <td class="xl96" style="border-left: medium none;">36.8%</td> <td class="xl96" style="border-left: medium none;">20.9%</td> <td class="xl95" style="border-left: medium none;">20.7</td> <td class="xl95" style="border-left: medium none;">26.8</td> <td class="xl96" style="border-left: medium none;">34.2%</td> <td class="xl96" style="border-left: medium none;">78.4%</td> <td class="xl95" style="border-left: medium none;">20.7</td> <td class="xl87" style="border-left: medium none;">19.4</td> <td class="xl95" style="border-left: medium none;">15.4</td> <td class="xl87" style="border-left: medium none;">15.9</td> <td class="xl95" style="border-left: medium none;">6.2</td> <td class="xl97" style="border-left: medium none;">15.90</td> <td class="xl97" style="border-left: medium none;">84.10</td> <td class="xl95" style="border-left: medium none;">39.0</td> <td class="xl87" style="border-left: medium none;">50.0</td> <td class="xl95" style="border-left: medium none;">5.1</td> <td class="xl87" style="border-left: medium none;">5.2</td> <td class="xl95" style="border-left: medium none;">10.8</td> <td class="xl87" style="border-left: medium none;">18.4</td> <td class="xl87" style="border-left: medium none;">97.0</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 28.5pt;" height="38"> <td class="xl86" style="height: 28.5pt; border-top: medium none;" height="38"> </td> <td class="xl86" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;"> </td> <td class="xl88" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;"> </td> <td class="xl88" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;"> </td> <td class="xl86" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;"> </td> <td class="xl86" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;"> </td> <td class="xl89" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;"> </td> <td class="xl89" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;"> </td> <td class="xl89" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;"> </td> <td class="xl86" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;"> </td> <td class="xl86" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;"> </td> <td class="xl89" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;"> </td> <td class="xl89" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;"> </td> <td class="xl86" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;"> </td> <td class="xl86" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;"> </td> <td class="xl88" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;"> </td> <td class="xl89" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;"> </td> <td class="xl86" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;"> </td> <td class="xl88" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;"> </td> <td class="xl86" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;"> </td> <td class="xl88" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;"> </td> <td class="xl86" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;"> </td> <td class="xl90" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;"> </td> <td class="xl90" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;"> </td> <td class="xl86" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;"> </td> <td class="xl88" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;"> </td> <td class="xl86" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;"> </td> <td class="xl88" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;"> </td> <td class="xl86" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;"> </td> <td class="xl88" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;"> </td> <td class="xl88" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;"> </td> </tr> <tr style="height: 28.5pt;" height="38"> <td class="xl87" style="height: 28.5pt; border-top: medium none;" height="38">NBA</td> <td class="xl98" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">100</td> <td class="xl91" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">105</td> <td class="xl91" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">105</td> <td class="xl98" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">38</td> <td class="xl98" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">81</td> <td class="xl99" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">46.0%</td> <td class="xl99" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">50.1%</td> <td class="xl99" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">54.3%</td> <td class="xl98" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">6</td> <td class="xl98" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">18</td> <td class="xl99" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">35.5%</td> <td class="xl99" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">22.2%</td> <td class="xl87" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">18.6</td> <td class="xl87" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">24.5</td> <td class="xl91" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">30</td> <td class="xl99" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">76.0%</td> <td class="xl98" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">21</td> <td class="xl91" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">20</td> <td class="xl98" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">14</td> <td class="xl91" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">13</td> <td class="xl97" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">10.95</td> <td class="xl91" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">26</td> <td class="xl91" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">74</td> <td class="xl97" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">41.72</td> <td class="xl91" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">50</td> <td class="xl98" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">5</td> <td class="xl91" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">5</td> <td class="xl98" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">7</td> <td class="xl91" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">15</td> <td class="xl91" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">95</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 28.5pt;" height="38"> <td class="xl88" style="height: 28.5pt; border-top: medium none;" height="38"> </td> <td class="xl137" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;"> </td> <td class="xl137" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;"> </td> <td class="xl137" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;"> </td> <td class="xl137" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;"> </td> <td class="xl137" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;"> </td> <td class="xl89" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;"> </td> <td class="xl89" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;"> </td> <td class="xl89" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;"> </td> <td class="xl137" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;"> </td> <td class="xl137" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;"> </td> <td class="xl89" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;"> </td> <td class="xl89" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;"> </td> <td class="xl88" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;"> </td> <td class="xl88" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;"> </td> <td class="xl137" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;"> </td> <td class="xl89" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;"> </td> <td class="xl137" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;"> </td> <td class="xl137" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;"> </td> <td class="xl137" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;"> </td> <td class="xl137" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;"> </td> <td class="xl90" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;"> </td> <td class="xl137" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;"> </td> <td class="xl137" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;"> </td> <td class="xl90" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;"> </td> <td class="xl137" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;"> </td> <td class="xl137" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;"> </td> <td class="xl137" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;"> </td> <td class="xl137" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;"> </td> <td class="xl137" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;"> </td> <td class="xl137" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;"> </td> </tr> <tr style="height: 28.5pt;" height="38"> <td class="xl87" style="height: 28.5pt; border-top: medium none;" height="38">HUM</td> <td class="xl87" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">100.2</td> <td class="xl95" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">103.9</td> <td class="xl95" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">108.1</td> <td class="xl87" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">35.3</td> <td class="xl87" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">77.7</td> <td class="xl99" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">45.5%</td> <td class="xl99" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">49.6%</td> <td class="xl99" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">55.2%</td> <td class="xl87" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">6.4</td> <td class="xl87" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">17.4</td> <td class="xl99" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">36.7%</td> <td class="xl99" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">22.4%</td> <td class="xl87" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">22.8</td> <td class="xl87" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">29.6</td> <td class="xl99" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">38.1%</td> <td class="xl99" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">76.7%</td> <td class="xl87" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">19.7</td> <td class="xl95" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">18.5</td> <td class="xl87" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">16.0</td> <td class="xl95" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">16.5</td> <td class="xl87" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">6.2</td> <td class="xl138" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">15.11</td> <td class="xl138" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">83.31</td> <td class="xl87" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">36.8</td> <td class="xl138" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">47.26</td> <td class="xl87" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">6.3</td> <td class="xl95" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">6.4</td> <td class="xl87" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">11.1</td> <td class="xl95" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">20.0</td> <td class="xl95" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">96.5</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 28.5pt;" height="38"> <td class="xl87" style="height: 28.5pt; border-top: medium none;" height="38">CPU</td> <td class="xl87" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">105.7</td> <td class="xl95" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">108.1</td> <td class="xl95" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">103.9</td> <td class="xl87" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">40.6</td> <td class="xl87" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">82.8</td> <td class="xl99" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">49.1%</td> <td class="xl99" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">52.8%</td> <td class="xl99" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">56.8%</td> <td class="xl87" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">6.0</td> <td class="xl87" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">15.7</td> <td class="xl99" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">38.5%</td> <td class="xl99" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">18.9%</td> <td class="xl87" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">18.4</td> <td class="xl87" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">23.7</td> <td class="xl99" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">28.9%</td> <td class="xl99" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">77.9%</td> <td class="xl87" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">21.6</td> <td class="xl95" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">20.0</td> <td class="xl87" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">14.7</td> <td class="xl95" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">15.0</td> <td class="xl87" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">6.0</td> <td class="xl138" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">16.73</td> <td class="xl138" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">84.96</td> <td class="xl87" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">41.5</td> <td class="xl138" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">52.88</td> <td class="xl87" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">3.7</td> <td class="xl95" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">3.9</td> <td class="xl87" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">10.2</td> <td class="xl95" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">16.6</td> <td class="xl95" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">97.8</td> </tr> </tbody></table>Originally posted by Fabian Avenarius Lloyd[...] a man of subtlety or refinement is almost always nothing but an idiot.Comment
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Re: The Purist(s) NBA 2K11 Sliders (Post-Patch)
numbers look good, some are really close. The cpu points at 105, is probably something to look at. I think it also has something with them consistently taking a lot of FG attempts.Comment
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Re: The Purist(s) NBA 2K11 Sliders (Post-Patch)
3.6, page 1.
It's clear; same settings for HUM/CPU won't work on AS.
(I was wrong, you conspiracy theorists may have been right)Last edited by greenieblue; 01-27-2011, 05:06 PM.Originally posted by Fabian Avenarius Lloyd[...] a man of subtlety or refinement is almost always nothing but an idiot.Comment
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I knew it, you can even tell from the stats you calculated...will test these soon!Last edited by ~: AkaDemiK :~; 01-27-2011, 05:45 PM.Comment
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BTW: In case there are still some people who doubt the low offensive rebounds-- this has now been a 60 game test which has the Offensive Rebound Rate at 15% w/ the Offensive rebound slider @ 100 and the D rebound slider @ 0-1.
The 09-10 NBA AVG Offensive Rebound Rate was 26%.
Doubt no more.Originally posted by Fabian Avenarius Lloyd[...] a man of subtlety or refinement is almost always nothing but an idiot.Comment
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I think doing separate cpu/human sliders was good for all star, ill try asapComment
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Looking at the numbers, the shooting edge is practically undeniable. An argument about shot selection could be made but, given the diversity of teams/humans/etc., it doesn't seem to be reasonable.Originally posted by Fabian Avenarius Lloyd[...] a man of subtlety or refinement is almost always nothing but an idiot.Comment
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Originally posted by Fabian Avenarius Lloyd[...] a man of subtlety or refinement is almost always nothing but an idiot.Comment
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Oh c'mon!! Now that I've become so good at this game you give me an edge?!?!? This must be a bad joke!! ;-D
Ah ah ah! The stats guru did it again! I love this thread, look at how everyone played for the sake of testing. Yes I did too, but I was almost left out!! No way, eh eh.
I had to do this. And thanks guys for posting your stats, you made me try again.
Tomorrow I'll try 3.6 ASAP and keep you posted about my 'chise.
Great job everyone!Comment
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greenie just making the public aware...
UPDATE: 1/27 Essential Rosters Version 6.0 has been released:
-Dean3790 was kind enough to add Sean Barkley's accessories for all NBA players.
-updated Coach Profiles(Help D) from the Purists Sliders newest set.
-Most NBA 'non-stars' touches have been slightly increased to create a more balanced attack.
-numerous adjustments to players' attributes.
-3 Caps have been added to the roster:
Mustafa Shakur (WA)
Zabian Dowdell (PHX)
Larry Owens (SA)
-minor tweaks throughout.(all rosters are 100% accurate as of 1/27/11)
*see my thread for complete roster details.
Enjoy!Essential Rosters for 2K11
1st Round Draft Pick Trades for 2K11
New York Knicks
New York Yankees
Green Bay Packers
Italia Azzuri National Team
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Oh c'mon!! Now that I've become so good at this game you give me an edge?!?!? This must be a bad joke!! ;-D
Ah ah ah! The stats guru did it again! I love this thread, look at how everyone played for the sake of testing. Yes I did too, but I was almost left out!! No way, eh eh.
I had to do this. And thanks guys for posting your stats, you made me try again.
Tomorrow I'll try 3.6 ASAP and keep you posted about my 'chise.
Great job everyone!
Let's face it, every NBA team has the chance to go out and play like crap and still win. W/ 3.5 this was almost impossible. That is not realistic.
Plus, I told you all along, my experience was the exact one that you were having. I just like to argue with myself sometimes. ;-)
It won't be roses from here, I'm sure. But something was not right with AS. Thankfully, it showed through statistically and I believe we have addressed it.Originally posted by Fabian Avenarius Lloyd[...] a man of subtlety or refinement is almost always nothing but an idiot.Comment
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Re: The Purist(s) NBA 2K11 Sliders (Post-Patch)
greenie just making the public aware...
UPDATE: 1/27 Essential Rosters Version 6.0 has been released:
-Dean3790 was kind enough to add Sean Barkley's accessories for all NBA players.
-updated Coach Profiles(Help D) from the Purists Sliders newest set.
-Most NBA 'non-stars' touches have been slightly increased to create a more balanced attack.
-numerous adjustments to players' attributes.
-3 Caps have been added to the roster:
Mustafa Shakur (WA)
Zabian Dowdell (PHX)
Larry Owens (SA)
-minor tweaks throughout.(all rosters are 100% accurate as of 1/27/11)
*see my thread for complete roster details.
Enjoy!
Sounds good.
Go get them people!Originally posted by Fabian Avenarius Lloyd[...] a man of subtlety or refinement is almost always nothing but an idiot.Comment
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